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Why the sikhs had no desire for a independent sikh state in the 1940s?

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He thinks Pakistanis giving verbal abuse on PDF to Indians is some bazooka against Hinduism to score some points & he is taking an assuagement out of this

You dumb shits don't read how I haven't insulted your religion or anything but just want to pick fights with me because I don't fall in line with your narrative. So be it, you'll get one. I don't get any pleasure from Pakistanis abusing your religion or vice versa and encourage you to get along.

On the contrary you seem to derive pleasure from hate crimes against Sikhs. What does that have to do with anything we are discussing at hand? Yes hate crimes exist, we are dealing with it. We have a very active lobbying group so it is actively reported, you worry about your H1B slaves who are getting shot now and even had gangs like Dotbusters targeting you.

Sikhs USED to be a large proportion of the British Indian army because the British found them more loyal to the white man than to India and Indians.

Britishers used Biharis against the Sikh Empire. When Biharis rebelled in 1857, Sikhs wanted revenge so they sided with British. Thereafter Britishers stopped recruiting Biharis and encouraged more Sikhs to join. Also they considered a monotheistic religion superior than what they perceived as polytheistic heathens (I don't feel this way and know enough about Hinduism to know that both Sikhism and Hinduism can be monistic.)
 
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You dumb shits don't read how I haven't insulted your religion or anything but just want to pick fights with me because I don't fall in line with your narrative. So be it, you'll get one. I don't get any pleasure from Pakistanis abusing your religion or vice versa and encourage you to get along.

On the contrary you seem to derive pleasure from hate crimes against Sikhs. What does that have to do with anything we are discussing at hand? Yes hate crimes exist, we are dealing with it. We have a very active lobbying group so it is actively reported, you worry about your H1B slaves who are getting shot now and even had gangs like Dotbusters targeting you.
:-) I wish I could run, I need to lose weight. Now shoo, this is getting old. I would insult your religion but I don't want to, I have friends who are Hindu. Your race is such a soft target that I feel bad attacking it, the Pakistanis *** rape your kind enough everyday. If you really want to find out what stuff Sikhs are made out of, come to Punjab and say all this to any random Sikh. :agree:
I haven't given any bogus reply before this comment cause I had no intention to get myself involved in childish bout..
Don't need to get hyper..Some factual reply & you p!ss in pants..
 
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One does what one have to when faced with bigots and third rate scums.
You have to be a special kind of stupid.

The chap you are arguing with is not even Indian. He has literally zero stake in what you do here. What you are actually doing in response to his posts - is insulting an entire religion which affects no one other than fellow Indians.

Remember that those fellow Indians among others from every frigging religion on the planet have died on the border so that you and I can live in peace. I see your posts as pissing on all of that.
 
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Instead of arguing about what happened in the past.Us punjabis should be more concerned about the state today.I was born near phagwara spent my childhood in punjab and took my kids back for six years to learn the culture and language.But the punjab of my grandfathers or fathers generation is gone.
 
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Instead of arguing about what happened in the past.Us punjabis should be more concerned about the state today.I was born near phagwara spent my childhood in punjab and took my kids back for six years to learn the culture and language.But the punjab of my grandfathers or fathers generation is gone.

Your kids learn Bihari while they were there?
 
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The chap you are arguing with is not even Indian. He has literally zero stake in what you do here. What you are actually doing in response to his posts - is insulting an entire religion which affects no one other than fellow Indians.

You're right I could care less about India but I'm still not insulting his religion. If you look back to the start of this interaction it all started because I posted a video that showed Sikhs siding with Muslims in one instance. This fragile little cunt Joe Shearer couldn't handle that and started lose motions from his dirty *** everywhere under the sun and that too under a fake id. :lol:

.Us punjabis should be more concerned about the state today.

And we are. People of Punjab are super aware of politics compared to the past. However, certain people from other parts of India can't handle the fact that we don't buy into the whole Hindutva/RSS/Modi narrative and have an independent thought.


It's not Bihari it's Bhojpuri. Seen this before?

 
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You have to be a special kind of stupid.

The chap you are arguing with is not even Indian. He has literally zero stake in what you do here. What you are actually doing in response to his posts - is insulting an entire religion which affects no one other than fellow Indians.

Remember that those fellow Indians among others from every frigging religion on the planet have died on the border so that you and I can live in peace. I see your posts as pissing on all of that.
Im not saying cleanwell was innocent in this but it was plugnplay who started to insult sikhism
 
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Sikhs are an integral part of India, Sikh religion originated in India and it cannot be separated from the country.
India is a secular country, which had a Punjabi Sikh as prime minister for 8 years.
About atrocities, every community in India has faced some or the other kind of atrocity in India's history.
We know that greatness can be achieved if we are United as a single nation.
 
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Instead of arguing about what happened in the past.Us punjabis should be more concerned about the state today.I was born near phagwara spent my childhood in punjab and took my kids back for six years to learn the culture and language.But the punjab of my grandfathers or fathers generation is gone.
Well said.
Vote better next time is all I can say. Punjab Govt. is getting more and more internally corrupt. It is just not like how it used to be.

There needs to be better leadership. Voters of Punjab must choose better. They have far too long been swayed by the rhetoric of religion and panth. Its time they start voting for people who won't sell them to earn money by drugs. Its time they start voting for development.
 
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Instead of arguing about what happened in the past.Us punjabis should be more concerned about the state today.I was born near phagwara spent my childhood in punjab and took my kids back for six years to learn the culture and language.But the punjab of my grandfathers or fathers generation is gone.

Sikhism is dying even in punjab...and population is going down.

While Muslim punjabis are thriving in Punjab culturally and religiously.

Sad state of affairs.
 
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Im not saying cleanwell was innocent in this but it was plugnplay who started to insult sikhism
My friend, does it matter whether cleanwell is innocent or not?

He is irrelevant. He has no stake in my country. If we start fighting or killing each other, it does not affect him in the least.

This chap - plugnplay, cannot differentiate that the only people who will get hurt by his words are other Indians.

Anyone who has such ego that s/he can get goaded into fighting ..that too on an online forum...is simply not intelligent or has a massive chip on his shoulder.

I am reminded of what Narendra Modi said that I found touching - India is like a bouquet of flowers. Having variety is what makes it beautiful. The Pakistanis don't get this. A number of the children of the foreign born Sikhs also don't get it. They forget their roots.
 
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Well said.
Vote better next time is all I can say. Punjab Govt. is getting more and more internally corrupt. It is just not like how it used to be.

There needs to be better leadership. Voters of Punjab must choose better. They have far too long been swayed by the rhetoric of religion and panth. Its time they start voting for people who won't sell them to earn money by drugs. Its time they start voting for development.
Actually they have no option..At this time no one would vote for Congress.Akali is corrupt to the core & BJP won't fight alone..So only option is AAP..If BJP goes alone then I would have supported them but as they are going with Akalis they need to lose..
Shame that Punjab hasn't produced a good leader since last decades..

My friend, does it matter whether cleanwell is innocent or not?

He is irrelevant. He has no stake in my country. If we start fighting or killing each other, it does not affect him in the least.

This chap - plugnplay, cannot differentiate that the only people who will get hurt by his words are other Indians.

Anyone who has such a small ego that s/he can get goaded into fighting ..that too on an online forum...is simply not intelligent or has a massive chip on his shoulder.

I am reminded of what Narendra Modi said that I found touching - India is like a bouquet of flowers. Having variety is what makes it beautiful. The Pakistanis don't get this. A number of the children of the foreign born Sikhs also don't get it. They forget their roots.
Don't worry bhai..It's common in India from people from every religion.People get hyper sometime.After few moment all becomes well.This is the characteristics of India.This is the reason astonishingly we are united still after 70 years & supporting country altogether...
So chill...
 
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