Why Shia and "secular" Muslims call Sunni's they don't like Wahabi/Salafi?

[iranigirl2]

Again, this is another Shia versus Sunni thread. People that start these nonsense, childish, retarded discussions should be BANNED!

 

[Alshawi1234]

Another useless thread. BTW, Salafis exist and are well known, they identify themselves as "Followers of the as salaf al salih"
The term Wahabi is used against Sunnis who follow the neo-Ummayid ideology, who the main advocators in the modern age are Ibn tamiyah and later on Mohammed Ibn Abdul Wahab. Both of these groups are known for declaring others "kaffir" for the slightest difference, they use terrorism as a means of spreading their faith.

The followers of the neo Ummayid ideology are known to be hateful against the islamics prophets family, they defend and praise those who fought and against Prophets Mohammed's and blame Shia Muslims, who unlike other Muslims see the Imams from the prophets descent as the true successors of the prophet. Sunnis see the rulers (caliphs) as legitimate god-supported imam over the muslims. That's why the Sunni faith is against going the ruler even if he is corrupt. That idea of it being forbidden to go against the ruler was created by the ummayids themselves to justify their corrupt and criminal rule over the muslims.

This concept was later used by the rest of the corrupt and criminal "caliphs"" from the ummayids, and Abbasids, the Ottomans and now it Is being used by the gulf rulers and the "Muslim brotherhood" mafias.



An example from the Believes of the ummayids. Laying against Allah and his prophet. Unfortunatly this has intergrated into mainstream sunnism.

What Does The Shariah Say About Revolting Against Tyrannical Muslim Rulers | AHLU SUNNAH WAL JAMAAH.COM

They also used this to criticize the revolt of Imam Hussien, prophets Mohammed's grandson against the corrupt caliph yazid Ibn Muawyiah. However, the hypocrisy starts when you ask about those who fought against imam Ali. They try to justify those who waged war against him.

 

[Doritos11]

You are welcome to find me a post where I mention the words Safavid and Iraq in the same sentence. Besides the Safavids in Iraq know who they are and Muslims know who they are too. So I don't need to mention them. In fact I already gave you a clue in my past post.

Qatar and Kuwait are small countries, together they don't even equal to a province in Iraq. Try to compare apples and oranges next time. Besides they can do whatever they like. What exactly is wrong with their cooperation with USA? Your own government did it. Even under Saddam. 99,9% of all Muslims countries do it. Some are even NATO member states (Turkey). Why all the focus on Kuwait and Qatar? American bases you will next say. So what? You have American bases in England, Germany, Japan and elsewhere. Kuwait and Qatar are allied with the US and rather them than Russia or Iran. Any sane person would conclude the same. You yourself have cried about how Iraq should try to get better relations with USA and the West so they can sell you better weapons....

The topic starter is not talking about who is stronger than the other and who has most influence and who has shaped the Islamic history etc. because we all know that this is Arab Sunnis mainly.

He is talking about those Shia Muslims who use different code names for Sunnis who are not in bed with the fake wannabe Arab Iranian Mullah stooges and their allies. When we reply in the same manner they cry. Anyway I don't care about them. We barely share anything with them like most Muslims. Why should I care? I don't make pilgrimages to Qom, Mashhad, Najaf or Karbala but Makkah and Madinah. I don't consider the fake Supreme Ayatollah that is ruling from Tehran as a spiritual father and religious leader whom I follow as a blind sheep.

In the end it all comes down to the same thing, more sunni-shia bs.
Looking at the Syria thread most people that are anti regime have been behaving like the Egyptian calling for the death of all shia, jews.. cancer on hassan nasrallah, ( hate speech in the name of the Sunnis, nice image for the world ).

 

[al-Hasani]

In the end it all comes down to the same thing, more sunni-shia bs.
Looking at the Syria thread most people that are anti regime have been behaving like the Egyptian calling for the death of all shia, jews.. cancer on hassan nasrallah, ( hate speech in the name of the Sunnis, nice image for the world ).

If the fake wannabe Arab Iranian Mullahs and their stooges don't meddle in Muslim and Arab land that they have no business in then they will face no reactions. Arabs/Semitic people and Iranians (who migrated to the Iranian Plateau from their ancestral homeland on the Kazakh/Central Asian Steppe 3000 years ago) have had various rivalries that go back to thousands years ago but what we see today first started in 1979. We all know what happened that year.

Which Egyptian? There are 80 million Egyptian of whom 90% are Sunni Muslims. I have no clue about who you mean.

Besides listening to his equals on the other spectrum is easy too.

What in the name of what? Individuals represent themselves.

We Arab Sunnis and Shias are not killing each other anywhere outside Iraq. We have no major problems. The only problems we have have, were created mainly by those Mullahs in Tehran and Qom and this is well-known. So if they stop sticking their dirty nose in matters that they have no business in we will not take measures to combat them. This is very simple.

 

[Doritos11]

If the fake wannabe Arab Iranian Mullahs and their stooges don't meddle in Muslim and Arab land then they will face no reactions. Arabs/Semitic people and Iranians have had various rivalries that go back thousands years ago but what we see today first started in 1979. We all know what happened that year.

Which Egyptian? There are 80 million Egyptian of whom 90% are Sunni Muslims. I have no clue about who you mean.

Besides listening to his equals on the other spectrum is easy too.

What in the name of what? Individuals represent themselves.

We Arab Sunnis and Shias are not killing each other anywhere outside Iraq. We have no major problems. The only problems we have have, were created mainly by those Mullahs in Tehran and Qom and this is well-known. So if they stop sticking their dirty nose in matters that they have no business in we will not take measures to combat them. This is very simple.

This guy

Iraq is a similar story as Syria, proxy war between Turkey GCC and Iran only on a small level. we need some time to develop the intelligence agency.

 

[Doritos11]

The main reason why MEMRI translates all this is to ruin the image of Islam in the west, the beard guy helps them with it.

 

[HAIDER]

Different sect should learn, after 1400 years they can not overrun eachother . Wise move would be to respect each other. We should keep in mind when criticize a policy of country , take it as country , not a country's majority following the religion . People need to open their mind and hearts. Let's leave the historic difference for the religious scholars and rest move to their life.
Because religion is the easiest commodity to sell in the Muslim countries, a promise of heaven and few good hurs promise easy to manipulate the mind of an uneducated person ....

 

[al-Hasani]

This guy

Iraq is a similar story as Syria, proxy war between Turkey GCC and Iran only on a small level. we need some time to develop the intelligence agency.

You can find similar figures from the other spectrum as posted many times by others. I don't see the point of all this because you will always find such individuals.

I am afraid that we are not talking about the topic but I can only talk for KSA and we have no ambitions in Iraq and rather don't care. We already built a large fortified border back in 2006 to stop people from entering from both sides and it is patrolled each day.

Besides in the current "war" between Muslims/Arabs and the fake wannabe Arab Iranian Mullah's and their stooges there are no borders.

Anyway the solution is simple. Tell them not to meddle in Arab/Semitic areas dominated by Sunni Muslims and then we will have no business in combating that. Let them keep themselves to Iran, Southern Iraq, parts of Bahrain and Azerbaijan (only 4 majority Shia countries in the world) and the latter one is the most secular Muslim country in the world inhabited by Azeri Turkic people who have bad ties with Iran.

But unfortunately those Mullahs in Tehran and Qom don't get it. Even Iraqi Shia Arab clerics have complained about their influence in Iraq.

Sayyed Ayad Jamal Aldin: We don't have a 13th imam called Khomeini, or a 14th imam called Khamenei - YouTube

Unfortunately Iraq is full of those Safavid stooges, many are illiterate and poor and easy to manipulate with especially in the South. Those same individuals are going to Syria in the thousands in order to kill Muslims and fight to keep a secular "Muslim" (LOL) in power due to orders from the Iraqi Shia clergy influenced by Iran and the Iranian Mullah's themselves. One just need to visit PISSTV to see the tone.

Sayyed Ayad Jamal Aldin: Difference b/w Najaf Hawza & followers of wilayat al-faqih is latter LIE - YouTube

But you will probably claim that this individual is an Sunni Arab agent or an agent of KSA because he claims to be a Sayyid (Hejazi), LOL.

 

[livingdead]

This guy

Iraq is a similar story as Syria, proxy war between Turkey GCC and Iran only on a small level. we need some time to develop the intelligence agency.

where does this happen, inside mosque or some special gathering?

 

[BATMAN]

Again, this is another Shia versus Sunni thread. People that start these nonsense, childish, retarded discussions should be BANNED!

Now this one is not Shia vs Sunni... this is how this forum is spreading hate against fellow Muslims... depicting them what ever.

You are the one... who's postings are questioned in OP.

 

[SQ8]

Its just going to go into another fine display of Muslim unity.Long live the Ummah.. wait.. what is that?
Closed.