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Why people should NOT get married in Pakistan

do secularize pakistan but be ready to face the music when islamic parties will start getting huge chunk of the vote bank be ready to have a prime minister like diesel or munawar hassan
all these self proclaimed liberals (oh shall i say pseudo liberals because they cant stand when some one disagrees with them ) they talk about tolerance when they dont have none disagree with them and they will declare u a mullah in a knee jerk
i say do everything but when 1979 repeats itself in pakistan be ready to live under a theocracy
 
Again like typical molvi you are targeting me instead of asking a question i have raised .
You are saying that MA jinnah speech on 11th august does not exist?
Secular Pakistan: ‘Pakistanis should know Quaid’s Aug 11 speech by heart’ - The Express Tribune
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Are you denying the hadith?
If you are such a proud muslim then you should know hadiths itself have no credibility and hence have no importance in islam.5 pillars of islam and quran makes a muslim not some hadiths because they is no proof how true they are.Even the saudis who are sponsors of wahhabi terrorism in our country don,t have sects like aihl e hadees etc but we have .They are just destroying ourselves from inside but don,t implementing them in their own country but you stupid people do not understand.
Quran and 5 pillars of islam cannot be changed but hadiths can be molded for spreading terrorism.
 
If you are such a proud muslim then you should know hadiths itself have no credibility and hence have no importance in islam.5 pillars of islam and quran makes a muslim not some hadiths because they is no proof how true they are.Even the saudis who are sponsors of wahhabi terrorism in our country don,t have sects like aihl e hadees etc but we have .They are just destroying ourselves from inside but don,t implementing them in their own country but you stupid people do not understand.
Quran and 5 pillars of islam cannot be changed but hadiths can be molded for spreading terrorism.

Show me in the QURAN how to do namaz? Show me in the QURAN where Allah says there are 5 prayers!

We have saheeha sitha! You really are ignorant!
 
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Before you wrinkle your eyebrows in a ‘holier-than-thou’ frown and judge my very existence, let me assure you that this blog is not a preaching of what you should or should not do. This blog is based on mere observations of human relationships and a concept that defines our lives in so many ways – shaadi (marriage).

I was familiar with this word at a very young age. But it was at the age of six when my brother (eight-years-old then) told me something that freaked me out. In sheer exasperation, that only an older brother can have, he said,

“I can’t wait till we marry you off so that you’re not around to annoy us anymore.”

“I’ll still be here,” I said.

“No, you’ll be living at your husband’s house. You won’t live with us forever.”

I don’t think it would be an exaggeration to say that the ground beneath my little feet shook as I came to realise he was serious. I did what any six-year-old would do, I burst into tears.

“What? No. How is that possible? Husband? I can’t leave my house, this is where I live. Why would you say that? Ama Baba will never let me leave! They won’t let me go, I’m their daughter. Will you leave too when you get married?”

These were the questions I somehow managed to word out.

With regret on his face, my brother apologised and calmed me down. He explained that every girl has to leave her parents’ house after marriage. He explained how our mom lives with us and our dad and not with Nana Nani (maternal grandparents). He said just like she left her house to live with her husband, I will have to as well.

That was my first reality check.

Marriage isn’t all fun and games; it is something that takes you away from all the things you love. It’s better for boys; their lives pretty much stay the same. But for girls, your entire life will change. Since then I began to observe our society. I observed married people and their actions. As a student of psychology, I analysed their verbal and non-verbal cues, signs of distress, facial expressions and body language.

While people my age ventured into relationships and ‘dating’, I became that one friend who gave the best relationship advice and who knew what to do despite never being in a long-term relationship.

Years later, today, I have developed an aversion to the concept of shaadi. People shouldn’t get married and here are my reasons. Once again, these reasons are based solely on observations.

The institution

No, I don’t believe the institution of marriage is flawed. Since the beginning of time, through religion, culture and society, people were to find a partner to spend their lives with, in holy matrimony. Marriage was a sacred bond; legends and epic tales are proof of the sacredness of this union.

Today in our times, however, this institution has lost its sacredness because people stopped respecting the bond itself. It became a ritual performed because ‘we have to’. Parents took it upon themselves to get their children married to the most suitable partners. Consumerism increased the need of more rituals, a need to display the union to the world along with a desire to compete, boast and beat others at it. Shaadi no longer means marriage, it means wedding.

Our generation

The generations before ours (our parents, grandparents, etc) had a different meaning of relationships than we do. For them, it was all about compromise and fixing things. They are the kind of couples who go through hell and still stick together. I’m sorry but I don’t think our generation has what it takes to tolerate and be with each other through thick and thin. Therising divorce rates back up this argument.

We, the youth, are conditioned to be independent and free thinkers. What we read, learn and watch (through the media) has evolved us into accepting individualism. We rebel against the system, question norms and think out of the box – that is what our generation is. There is nothing wrong with these qualities but perhaps it is these qualities that cause problems in relationships.

When both the partners are so opinionated and do not have the ability to compromise or sacrifice their own needs and wants for the other, then how is a relationship supposed to work?

They call us the resilient generation, well resilience also counts for our ability to move on and bounce back when a relationship ends, so perhaps that’s why we don’t try to fix relationships and work on them the way our parent or grandparents did.

Divorce is no longer taboo; if we can’t stand someone anymore, we leave or think of leaving.

Sexist time bomb

Our society is extremely sexist to BOTH the genders, especially when it comes to marriage. Not only does a girl have to leave her home, her room, her parents and her freedom to move in with her husband, she also has a constant psychological ‘tick-tock’ on her head since the day she turns 20.

Trust me, this tick-tock is a constant nuisance hanging over heads. There is so much that I want to do with my life. I want to study, work, build a career, travel the world, and write a book! To this argument, I am told by everyone,

“So, no one is stopping you. You can do all of this after your shaadi.”

Agreed that you can study after marriage and work post-shaadi but what about the other things?

Will my husband have the patience to let me be locked in my room writing for most of the day? Will he be fine if I want to focus on my career for five years and not have children?

And boys don’t have it too easy either.

While a boy gets to live in his own home with his parents after shaadi (lucky son of a gun), he also faces the constant tick-tock. He is told he has to complete his entire education, build his career and get settled at least by mid or late 20s so that he can ‘afford’ to have a wife and family. I really don’t think that’s fair. The pressure of getting the best job and high-figure salary can be really stressful.

What if he wants to become an artist or travel, things that won’t get him the money he needs. What about his dreams?

Marriage is a full-stop to our dreams. They say we can pursue them after shaadi but who are we kidding?

Shaadi changes people

During the pre-nuptial period, everyone is on their best behaviour. Not just the couple but the families of both treat each other like royals. It is all about gifts, wedding preparations and impressing each other.

It is only after the shaadi that everyone becomes comfortable with each other and reveals their true selves. Mother-in-laws, who before the wedding sang praises of how perfect their bahus(daughter-in-laws) are, begin to mentally make a list of all the things their bahu does wrong and how awful she is. The bahu suddenly sits, walks, cooks and breathes in the wrong way.

For the bahu, she begins to see her mother-in-law as nothing less than Cruella De Vil.

Every single person in both families feels responsible and overly concerned about the couple and their relationship. They become mediators and judges even though no one asks them too.

The boy and girl gradually begin to change into constantly irritable, annoyed and bezaar (fed up) human beings. Stress levels increase, tempers boil and each day, the ability to tolerate each other reduces.

These are some of my reasons (I have many more) of why people shouldn’t get married and why I won’t (till my parents have had enough of my excuses). I have seen and heard of so many couples getting divorced (many who were deeply in love with each other), people cheating, families turning against each other, children fighting with parents, people ending relationships in a blink of an eye. I have heard of khalas (maternal aunts) turned mother-in-laws, physically abusing the bahu. I have heard of a man throwing his wife out on the street a week after their love marriage. I have heard of in-laws kicking the girl out because she couldn’t produce a son.

I have heard of enough shaadi horror stories to loathe the entire concept.

If this is what holy matrimony and relationships come to then thank you very much, but I’m better off.
Why people should NOT get married in Pakistan – The Express Tribune Blog

Like many wannabe free and independent woman this woman will end up in one of either two ways. Either alone and surrounded by cats once she hits the wall or marrying some dude who is much older then her. However before that she will write another article asking something stupid like the typical, "where have all the good men gone", in order to try and shame some poor fucker into marrying her old ***.
 
If you are such a proud muslim then you should know hadiths itself have no credibility and hence have no importance in islam.5 pillars of islam and quran makes a muslim not some hadiths because they is no proof how true they are.Even the saudis who are sponsors of wahhabi terrorism in our country don,t have sects like aihl e hadees etc but we have .They are just destroying ourselves from inside but don,t implementing them in their own country but you stupid people do not understand.
Quran and 5 pillars of islam cannot be changed but hadiths can be molded for spreading terrorism.
Hadees have full credibility you can't follow 99 % orders of Quran without Hadees. Its you who are master of ignorance even those 5 pillars are told in Hadees this is enough to show your ignorance genius. Hadees are full credible part of Islam some masters of ignorance try to deny it only exposing themselves as jokers.

Show me in the QURAN how to do namaz? Show me in the QURAN where Allah says there are 5 prayers!

We have saheeha sitha! You really are ignorant!
Leave this ignorant he has no idea just another follower of people like Abu Juhal
 
All those images above are the personal views of a so called muslim like jinnah.Let,s say i am a muslim so talking about islam is one thing but want to have islamic state is another thing.
Yes in his later years of life he talked plenty in favor of islam in the muslim majority pakistan but at the same time he said faith is a personal matter and completely separated from the state.Below are his words.
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the state. … We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one state.”
 
Author is a girl, but marriage is bad for boy too. It was never good, in older generations it was bad for girls, now its bad for boys.
Its an institution, thats right. You enter an institution. :close_tema:

Marriage is a sham in the west, that is why the birth rates have plummeted and western civilization itself is collapsing in on itself. Any man marrying a western woman is basically handing over everything he owns to the woman (even if they have the toilet paper valued document known as an alimony).

Woman have lost their minds and have made men increasingly shun relationships all together. Societies that do not marry, do not survive. Even the dolts in the west who have allowed western woman to go crazy with power realize this and in order to compensate increasingly allow third world baby makers into their countries which creates a whole other set of issues. Namely what we see in Europe with ghettos/crime, and the decline of local ethnic groups. Which means the fall of European civilization has only been slowed but is inevitable.

The end result of course will be what we see in Japan, with the so called "herbivore men" who refuse to marry. The Japanese as a people will soon cease to exist and the GOJ seeing this has opened up the borders to immigration, essentially trying to copy European "solutions" when their problem is already far more ahead. When asked why they refuse to marry many of these Japanese men say it is because they want no part of "independent" women.

@Nihonjin1051 @C130 @LeveragedBuyout

You guys should read my post and give me your thoughts as it concerns all of us. C130 I remember when you opened that sect Islam thread you actually touched upon some of the degeneracy that can be found in the west and how you found it foul, idk if you were trolling but I was willing to talk about this aspect further while leaving religion out. I am of the belief that the decline of marriage and the rise of state assisted single motherhood has played a direct part in what you touched upon.
 
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All those images above are the personal views of a so called muslim like jinnah.Let,s say i am a muslim so talking about islam is one thing but want to have islamic state is another thing.
Yes in his later years of life he talked plenty in favor of islam in the muslim majority pakistan but at the same time he said faith is a personal matter and completely separated from the state.Below are his words.
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the state. … We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one state.”
These are not personal views these are speeches given as head of state and How he want state to be your denial won't change the fact you already got busted kid so better get some knowledge before talking next time
 
Like many wannabe free and independent woman this woman will end up in one of either two ways. Either alone and surrounded by cats once she hits the wall or marrying some dude who is much older then her. However before that she will write another article asking something stupid like the typical, "where have all the good men gone", in order to try and shame some poor fucker into marrying her old ***.
You know she is really unfortunate to live in pakistan where is surrounded by people like you who instead of listening to what message she is trying to convey they are just making a fuss out of her article.

These are not personal views these are speeches given as head of state and How he want state to be your denial won't change the fact you already got busted kid so better get some knowledge before talking next time
That was lovely.Now the mullah is running away ........:lol:
Dare to challenge these words of MA jinnah?
"“You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the state. … We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one state.”
 
You know she is really unfortunate to live in pakistan where is surrounded by people like you who instead of listening to what message she is trying to convey they are just making a fuss out of her article.
She is not giving message but talking bullshit and fools. Some delusional puppets of west fall for it. Most Pakistanis know reality of western slaves.
 
You know she is really unfortunate to live in pakistan where is surrounded by people like you who instead of listening to what message she is trying to convey they are just making a fuss out of her article.


That was lovely.Now the mullah is running away ........:lol:
Dare to challenge these words of MA jinnah?
"“You are free; you are free to go to your temples, you are free to go to your mosques or to any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion or caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the state. … We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens, and equal citizens, of one state.”
Its you who are denying read his speeches after this speeches he clearly stated he wanted Pakistan and law based on Quran and Sunnah its you who are cowardly running away just like fraud and cheat liberals run away. Jonah never ever wanted secular Pakistan in fact after this very speech he asked a hard core Mullah Allama Shabbir Ahmed Usmani to do flag hoisting enough slap on face of fraud and cheat and liar seculars
 
You know she is really unfortunate to live in pakistan where is surrounded by people like you who instead of listening to what message she is trying to convey they are just making a fuss out of her article.

Sorry I am not in Pakistan, but she is welcome to migrate to the states where she will achieve her dream of dying alone in peace lol. Anyway I would advise you to read my post number 157 and soak in why marriage as an institution is imperative for the survival of a nation. My arguments have little to do with the religious aspect of it (although the fact that nearly every religion ever in existence has stressed the importance of marriage is a wisdom in itself that should be pondered upon).
 
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