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Construction cost of designing & developing a 44,500 ton carrier will be close to $6 bn. Deploying approximately 24 fighter jets on the carrier will cost an additional $4 bn taking the total to $10 bn just to construct the carrier and purchase the fighter jets. The country's total defense budget for the year 2015-16 stands $ 7.5 bn which is two and a half billion dollars lesser than the cost of an aircraft carrier. Pakistan will have to spend a whopping 4% of its entire GDP just to build and deploy one aircraft carrier in today's date.
It's just not $7.5 billion. Add to that the cost of the carrier's battle group that will need to accompany the aircraft carrier. This would essentially consist of one battleship, one cruiser, two destroyers, three frigates, two to three submarines and one support ship, such as a fleet oil tanker. So, add another $5 billion and it's way over Pakistan's entire defence budget - just for operating one carrier battle group!
 
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And all these navies don't bring their aircraft carriers to countries that can hurt it. US used Israel to destroy P-800 Oniks inventory of Syria.
I bow to thee wisdom.
USN is filled with idiots to spend $15 billion on new carriers, $10 billion on its aircraft complement, and several billions per year operating those pieces of junk when all that was needed was the mighty anti-ship missile to defeat it. I hope you would be kind enough to tell the same to our Chinese friends in the Chinese section.
 
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We don't need one, whenever the need arises or we require one for defense we will acquire one, we have the resources don't worry about that, Pakistan's economy is not as week as you think. we simply don't waste money on useless defense products or projects (e.g Tejas) that we do not need. it is simple as that.
 
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INS Vikramaditya :

Cost : $ 2.4 Billion ($ 2.9 Billion including sea-trials)
Cost of all aircrafts on-board : $ 4 Billion
Cost of supplies per year : $ 0.5 Billion
Cost of operation in an year : $ 0.5 Billion
Total funds spent on INS Vikramaditya by Indian Navy : Approximately $ 8 Billion
Meanwhile, Defence Budget of Pakistan : $ 7.5 Billion

kindly post similar data for INS Virat
 
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Pakistan is a defensive nation, thus it doesn't need one. India is an offensive one and therefore needs one.

BTW, it can get one, maybe when China decides that Lioning isn't good enough for its Navy. And when their economy gets better.

Pakistan believes in offensive defence..

Pak has no plans to get a carrier for the forseeable future... nor does our economy as of yet allow us to invest in a carrier...
 
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Are we supposed to give a fcuk about you posting this article.

Because I'm not wasting it.
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What is an Aircraft Carrier ?
An aircraft carrier is a warship that serves as a seagoing airbase, equipped with a full-length flight deck and facilities for carrying, arming, deploying, and recovering aircraft. It allows a naval force that owns a carrier to project air power worldwide without depending on local bases for staging aircraft operations.

Aircraft carriers are expensive to build and are very critical assets. They are extremely vulnerable due to their large size and hence are escorted by various surface and sub-surface vessels like Destroyers, Cruisers, Frigates, Submarines and supply ships that defend the carrier in the event of a threat. The combination of these warships moving along with an aircraft carrier in open-seas is known as an 'Aircraft Carrier Battle Group'.

Regardless of size, the carrier itself must house their complement of aircraft, with space for launching, storing, and maintaining them. Space is also required to house a large crew, supplies (food, ammunition, fuel, engineering parts), and propulsion.

Now let's come to the point and understand why Pakistan will never own or afford to build and operate an Aircraft Carrier.


1. Economy ::

Pakistan's Gross Domestic Product is valued at $ 246 bn according to the World Bank and United Nations 2014 report.
India's economy ($ 2.2 trillion) is currently nine times larger than Pakistan's. At current respective growth rates, within ten years it will be nearly twenty times as large.

With horrendous poverty and national debt, coupled with radical Islamic extremism, Pakistan is one of the most under-developed country in the world. It has a failing government that is not in control of its army and security apparatus and vengeance seeking terrorist groups like the Taliban, Al-Qaida, Lashkar-E-Toiba and much more.

Radical Islamic Extremism, terror attacks, suicide bombers and a weak economy is not the only threat that Pakistan faces today. One of the main threat that the country faces is a population boom that cannot be supported by its economy anymore.

In a region that is poised to witness the fastest rate of economic growth in the world, a new World Bank report has placed Pakistan at the bottom of the eight economies in South Asia, projecting a moderate growth rate of 4.3% in 2015, the second-lowest after Afghanistan. In 2016, Afghanistan is set to overtake Pakistan in GDP growth rate which will make Pakistan the worst performing economy in Asia.

Pakistan's population currently stands at 185 million people. It is the sixth most populous country and one of the worst performing economies of the world. The fertility rate in Pakistan currently stands at an average of 3.5 children per woman which means that Pakistan's population will double in the next 12 to 15 years to 360 - 370 million people but it's economy will not. Tackling large scale unemployment of a population that has not seen anything but an Islamic Madrasa will be the most daunting task of the future govt. of Pakistan.

Construction cost of designing & developing a 44,500 ton carrier will be close to $6 bn. Deploying approximately 24 fighter jets on the carrier will cost an additional $4 bn taking the total to $10 bn just to construct the carrier and purchase the fighter jets. The country's total defense budget for the year 2015-16 stands $ 7.5 bn which is two and a half billion dollars lesser than the cost of an aircraft carrier. Pakistan will have to spend a whopping 4% of its entire GDP just to build and deploy one aircraft carrier in today's date.

2015 GDP Growth Rates of a few countries ::
a. Pakistan's GDP Growth Rate - 4.3%
b. Nepal - 5.0%
c. Republic of Congo - 5.2%
d. Uganda - 5.4%
e. Namibia - 5.6%
f. Bangladesh - 6.3%
g. Zambia - 6.7%
h. Kenya - 6.9%

& last but not the least

i. China - 6.8%
j. India - 7.5% (the fastest growing major economy in the world)


2. Technical Expertise & Physical Infrastructure ::

With almost no technical skills to design and develop state-of-the-art warships, the country is totally dependent on foreign assistance, especially China to expand its Navy. Karachi Shipyard of Pakistan is the only yard that has ever built a warship in Pakistan but with foreign assistance.

Constructing an aircraft carrier requires three important things.
a. An indigenous metal and steel industry capable of producing high grade steel to withstand extreme pressures of the sheer weight of the carrier.
b. Ship-building infrastructure and availability of technically qualified manpower like engineers who can design and develop an extremely complex warship like an aircraft carrier.
c. A strong economy that can support and fund up to $10 bn in acquiring an aircraft carrier and more funds to operate it.

In the case of Pakistan, none of the above mentioned points are even existent to fulfill their dream.


3. Cost of Operating ::

The per day cost incurred to India for operating one aircraft carrier is approximately Rs. 11 crores which is roughly 1.7 million dollars. This includes, fuel, ration, and salaries to nearly 1500 to 2000 sailors on-board the carrier. If the carrier is on active deterrent patrol for 300 days in a year then the total cost of operating just the carrier and not other warships that escort the mother-ship would be approximately half a billion dollars.

Pakistan's Air Force owns and operates only single engine fighter jets for a very simple reason and i.e. COST. Twin engine fighter jets consume twice the amount of fuel and double the time required for maintenance. India on the other hand operates the state-of-the-art twin-engine Su-30 MKI's as its mainstay. It is impossible for a country like Pakistan that cannot even afford to operate twin engine fighter jets, to even dream of establishing an 'Aircraft Carrier Battle Group'.


Conclusion ::
Aircraft Carriers are symbols of national pride that can traverse oceans with unmatched firepower, capable of waging a war, effectively forcing a naval blockade and attaining air, surface and sub-surface superiority.

Induction and existence of Aircraft Carriers are necessary in a nations arsenal in order for it to be recognized at least as a regional naval power.

With the induction of new conventional and nuclear-submarines, stealth missile destroyers like the INS Kochi and INS Kolkata, two operational aircraft carrier battle groups and the construction of a third nuclear powered carrier, India is soon to realise the dream of being recognized as a true blue water navy that will dominate the Indian Ocean for years to come.

Pakistan will have to achieve double digit GDP growth rates and sustain it for years which seems pretty impossible to own and operate an Aircraft Carrier to challenge India's naval supremacy. The only other way is, if Pakistan receives an Aircraft Carrier in AID from China considering Pakistan's track record of begging in front of the world.

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I bow to thee wisdom.
USN is filled with idiots to spend $15 billion on new carriers, $10 billion on its aircraft complement, and several billions per year operating those pieces of junk when all that was needed was the mighty anti-ship missile to defeat it. I hope you would be kind enough to tell the same to our Chinese friends in the Chinese section.
Like I said, aircraft carriers are for use against Third World nations or those whose Navies and Air Force are poor. US will never dare to send an aircraft carrier anywhere near China or Russia if the 2 are at war.

If you have nothing but trolling to do, I believe there is an entire section for it.
 
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What is an Aircraft Carrier ?
An aircraft carrier is a warship that serves as a seagoing airbase, equipped with a full-length flight deck and facilities for carrying, arming, deploying, and recovering aircraft. It allows a naval force that owns a carrier to project air power worldwide without depending on local bases for staging aircraft operations.

Aircraft carriers are expensive to build and are very critical assets. They are extremely vulnerable due to their large size and hence are escorted by various surface and sub-surface vessels like Destroyers, Cruisers, Frigates, Submarines and supply ships that defend the carrier in the event of a threat. The combination of these warships moving along with an aircraft carrier in open-seas is known as an 'Aircraft Carrier Battle Group'.

Regardless of size, the carrier itself must house their complement of aircraft, with space for launching, storing, and maintaining them. Space is also required to house a large crew, supplies (food, ammunition, fuel, engineering parts), and propulsion.

Now let's come to the point and understand why Pakistan will never own or afford to build and operate an Aircraft Carrier.


1. Economy ::

Pakistan's Gross Domestic Product is valued at $ 246 bn according to the World Bank and United Nations 2014 report.
India's economy ($ 2.2 trillion) is currently nine times larger than Pakistan's. At current respective growth rates, within ten years it will be nearly twenty times as large.

With horrendous poverty and national debt, coupled with radical Islamic extremism, Pakistan is one of the most under-developed country in the world. It has a failing government that is not in control of its army and security apparatus and vengeance seeking terrorist groups like the Taliban, Al-Qaida, Lashkar-E-Toiba and much more.

Radical Islamic Extremism, terror attacks, suicide bombers and a weak economy is not the only threat that Pakistan faces today. One of the main threat that the country faces is a population boom that cannot be supported by its economy anymore.

In a region that is poised to witness the fastest rate of economic growth in the world, a new World Bank report has placed Pakistan at the bottom of the eight economies in South Asia, projecting a moderate growth rate of 4.3% in 2015, the second-lowest after Afghanistan. In 2016, Afghanistan is set to overtake Pakistan in GDP growth rate which will make Pakistan the worst performing economy in Asia.

Pakistan's population currently stands at 185 million people. It is the sixth most populous country and one of the worst performing economies of the world. The fertility rate in Pakistan currently stands at an average of 3.5 children per woman which means that Pakistan's population will double in the next 12 to 15 years to 360 - 370 million people but it's economy will not. Tackling large scale unemployment of a population that has not seen anything but an Islamic Madrasa will be the most daunting task of the future govt. of Pakistan.

Construction cost of designing & developing a 44,500 ton carrier will be close to $6 bn. Deploying approximately 24 fighter jets on the carrier will cost an additional $4 bn taking the total to $10 bn just to construct the carrier and purchase the fighter jets. The country's total defense budget for the year 2015-16 stands $ 7.5 bn which is two and a half billion dollars lesser than the cost of an aircraft carrier. Pakistan will have to spend a whopping 4% of its entire GDP just to build and deploy one aircraft carrier in today's date.

2015 GDP Growth Rates of a few countries ::
a. Pakistan's GDP Growth Rate - 4.3%
b. Nepal - 5.0%
c. Republic of Congo - 5.2%
d. Uganda - 5.4%
e. Namibia - 5.6%
f. Bangladesh - 6.3%
g. Zambia - 6.7%
h. Kenya - 6.9%

& last but not the least

i. China - 6.8%
j. India - 7.5% (the fastest growing major economy in the world)


2. Technical Expertise & Physical Infrastructure ::

With almost no technical skills to design and develop state-of-the-art warships, the country is totally dependent on foreign assistance, especially China to expand its Navy. Karachi Shipyard of Pakistan is the only yard that has ever built a warship in Pakistan but with foreign assistance.

Constructing an aircraft carrier requires three important things.
a. An indigenous metal and steel industry capable of producing high grade steel to withstand extreme pressures of the sheer weight of the carrier.
b. Ship-building infrastructure and availability of technically qualified manpower like engineers who can design and develop an extremely complex warship like an aircraft carrier.
c. A strong economy that can support and fund up to $10 bn in acquiring an aircraft carrier and more funds to operate it.

In the case of Pakistan, none of the above mentioned points are even existent to fulfill their dream.


3. Cost of Operating ::

The per day cost incurred to India for operating one aircraft carrier is approximately Rs. 11 crores which is roughly 1.7 million dollars. This includes, fuel, ration, and salaries to nearly 1500 to 2000 sailors on-board the carrier. If the carrier is on active deterrent patrol for 300 days in a year then the total cost of operating just the carrier and not other warships that escort the mother-ship would be approximately half a billion dollars.

Pakistan's Air Force owns and operates only single engine fighter jets for a very simple reason and i.e. COST. Twin engine fighter jets consume twice the amount of fuel and double the time required for maintenance. India on the other hand operates the state-of-the-art twin-engine Su-30 MKI's as its mainstay. It is impossible for a country like Pakistan that cannot even afford to operate twin engine fighter jets, to even dream of establishing an 'Aircraft Carrier Battle Group'.


Conclusion ::
Aircraft Carriers are symbols of national pride that can traverse oceans with unmatched firepower, capable of waging a war, effectively forcing a naval blockade and attaining air, surface and sub-surface superiority.

Induction and existence of Aircraft Carriers are necessary in a nations arsenal in order for it to be recognized at least as a regional naval power.

With the induction of new conventional and nuclear-submarines, stealth missile destroyers like the INS Kochi and INS Kolkata, two operational aircraft carrier battle groups and the construction of a third nuclear powered carrier, India is soon to realise the dream of being recognized as a true blue water navy that will dominate the Indian Ocean for years to come.

Pakistan will have to achieve double digit GDP growth rates and sustain it for years which seems pretty impossible to own and operate an Aircraft Carrier to challenge India's naval supremacy. The only other way is, if Pakistan receives an Aircraft Carrier in AID from China considering Pakistan's track record of begging in front of the world.

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Written by a "maha chutiya"..
 
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INS Vikramaditya :

Cost : $ 2.4 Billion ($ 2.9 Billion including sea-trials)
Cost of all aircrafts on-board : $ 4 Billion
Cost of supplies per year : $ 0.5 Billion
Cost of operation in an year : $ 0.5 Billion
Total funds spent on INS Vikramaditya by Indian Navy : Approximately $ 8 Billion
Meanwhile, Defence Budget of Pakistan : $ 7.5 Billion
Don't worry we are puchasing 8 subs from worth 5 billion, when china finish worked on thier own AC they will build one for us..good news for you..
 
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INS Vikramaditya :

Cost : $ 2.4 Billion ($ 2.9 Billion including sea-trials)
Cost of all aircrafts on-board : $ 4 Billion
Cost of supplies per year : $ 0.5 Billion
Cost of operation in an year : $ 0.5 Billion

Total funds spent on INS Vikramaditya by Indian Navy : Approximately $ 8 Billion
Meanwhile, Defence Budget of Pakistan : $ 7.5 Billion

That includes total cost of the ship itself... including years of development/construction etc...

The operating cost of a ship (per year) would be 1 billion...

Paks total budget would be over 10 billion.. including CSF and "other sources".. as of right now.

We just bought 8 AIP subs,more frigates n Meltem upgrade for MPAs.
 
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Somebody better tell this to the idiots sitting in..............................................US Navy, US Marine Corps, Royal Navy, Marine Nationale, Russian Navy, Indian Navy, Italian Navy, Brazilian Navy and ooooh...................the People's Liberation Army Navy.
Army Navy? That's not even a real name. Stupid Dumb-asses totting around useless carriers.
why you named your profile after your birth date?
 
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carrier's battle group that will need to accompany the aircraft carrier. This would essentially consist of one battleship, one cruiser, two destroyers, three frigates, two to three submarines and one support ship, such as a fleet oil tanker.
that sounds like a USN battle group, got any info on what accompanies the INS VIkramaditya on the PLAN Liaoning ?

China and India, given their old soviet refurbished junk (compared to the USN carriers) also travel in that much style ? :P

@Capt.Popeye @Penguin @Major Shaitan Singh @Abingdonboy @everyone else, some info on Indian and Chinese CBG please.
 
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