Why is Israel So Successful Against Arab Armies

[19887]

One last question Mountain Jew (Answer honestly, and for my own sake this question is out of curiosity mainly). What is Israelis thoughts on Iranians, Iran and the prospect of war with Iran. Can Israel win against Iran truthfully or is Iran not a real target for Israel. I know Shimon Peres (RIP) had stopped Nentanyahu personally from launching a strike against Iran.

In general, the Israelis love Iran and the Iranians
We were allies once you know
But we also love the culture, everyone will tell you that the Iranians are not stupid
The government reflects the people's position

The problem is the extremist regime that now rules there, once the regime falls and the relations between Israel and Iran return to normal, all the Israelis will go to visit there

About the war
Israel is interested only in stopping the Iranian nuclear program
Only to attack the nuclear facilities and return home (if Iran is not convinced by diplomatic means)
Can Israel do this (alone)? Yes
Does this mean that Israel will succeed for sure? No

About Shimon Peres
He is a pathological liar
Now that Shimon Peres has prevented Netanyahu from attacking Iran, that's a lie
First of all, there was no attack on the road
In order to decide on an attack, a majority of the cabinet needs to be formed. There was no majority in the cabinet, so there is no attack
Shimon Peres had no connection to the cabinet, he was president, and the president has no authority

Regardless, Netanyahu and Barak did want to attack, but they did not have a majority

Zionists i am quite sure that they promote anything that supports Israel

So you do not know what you're talking about
In every generation, there is a group of Jews who betray their people
Jews are always loyal to others, but among themselves, there is always a traitorous group that does harm to the entire people.
Today these are Jews who believe in the religion of the left, they are the main distributors of anti-Semitism around the world

Those who provide most of the support for Israel are Evangelical Christians

 

[Blue In Green]

In general, the Israelis love Iran and the Iranians
We were allies once you know
But we also love the culture, everyone will tell you that the Iranians are not stupid
The government reflects the people's position

The problem is the extremist regime that now rules there, once the regime falls and the relations between Israel and Iran return to normal, all the Israelis will go to visit there

About the war
Israel is interested only in stopping the Iranian nuclear program
Only to attack the nuclear facilities and return home (if Iran is not convinced by diplomatic means)
Can Israel do this (alone)? Yes
Does this mean that Israel will succeed for sure? No

About Shimon Peres
He is a pathological liar
Now that Shimon Peres has prevented Netanyahu from attacking Iran, that's a lie
First of all, there was no attack on the road
In order to decide on an attack, a majority of the cabinet needs to be formed. There was no majority in the cabinet, so there is no attack
Shimon Peres had no connection to the cabinet, he was president, and the president has no authority

Regardless, Netanyahu and Barak did want to attack, but they did not have a majority


So you do not know what you're talking about
In every generation, there is a group of Jews who betray their people
Jews are always loyal to others, but among themselves, there is always a traitorous group that does harm to the entire people.
Today these are Jews who believe in the religion of the left, they are the main distributors of anti-Semitism around the world

Those who provide most of the support for Israel are Evangelical Christians

I see, I see... so the Knesset has to be informed before such an attack. What about the recent successful strike against ISIS, doesn't that give a ltitle warning to the IDF on Irans expanding capabilities?

 

[19887]

I see, I see... so the Knesset has to be informed before such an attack. What about the recent successful strike against ISIS, doesn't that give a ltitle warning to the IDF on Irans expanding capabilities?

Not the Knesset
The Cabinet

It made everyone laugh
Their missiles are unreliable

Israel has no problem with Iranian missiles, missiles have already landed everywhere and have come from everywhere
We also have effective defense against missiles, shelters and protected spaces, an alarm that can alert at the level of a neighborhood only, without stirring half a country, there are applications that announce where all the missiles are going to land, and there are civilian awareness.

 

[GiannKall]

So you do not know what you're talking about
In every generation, there is a group of Jews who betray their people
Jews are always loyal to others, but among themselves, there is always a traitorous group that does harm to the entire people.
Today these are Jews who believe in the religion of the left, they are the main distributors of anti-Semitism around the world

Those who provide most of the support for Israel are Evangelical Christians

Well better support the "religion of the left", because the "religion of the right" might treat jews in the same manner Hitler did.

 

[Blue In Green]

Not the Knesset
The Cabinet

It made everyone laugh
Their missiles are unreliable

Israel has no problem with Iranian missiles, missiles have already landed everywhere and have come from everywhere
We also have effective defense against missiles, shelters and protected spaces, an alarm that can alert at the level of a neighborhood only, without stirring half a country, there are applications that announce where all the missiles are going to land, and there are civilian awareness.

I guess this is where I have to disagree with you on Irans missile effectiveness categorically, as the videos and lack of contrasting evidence in saying the missiles were ineffective don't support your claims.

Irans missile strike was indeed highly effective and did it's job fairly well and destroyed a a large number of ISIS targets.

But regardless ok.

Last thing Mountain Jew I wanted to commend you on answering the questions laid before you in an acceptable manner, as you conducted yourself adequately. This conservation was not in vain and gave me a greater understanding of the Jewish way of thinking as well as Israel and the concept of Israel (based on your view). Naturally I still have my great criticsm and hatred of certain things Israel does.

So in closing, thank you.

 

[19887]

Well better support the "religion of the left", because the "religion of the right" might treat jews in the same manner Hitler did.

The right has no religion
They simply oppose change and oppose the left
They are weak and cowardly

But you are right that the extreme right is also dangerous, but it is weak, the power is in the left
And that is why the Fourth Reich brought millions of refugees into your country (I know that not everyone will stay there)

* Hitler was a leftist

 

[StandForInsaf]

Lack of Systematic Leadership
Lack of merit
Lack of technology

Democracy if implemented properly produces merit based results.
Dictatorship is harder to change if you got lucky you will get a good ruler.

Arabs must move to a system which is more merit based instead of royalty and loyalty.
Take example of Britain they have kings/queens but queen have separated herself from matters of governance , and they have given chance to merit based governance.

They need strong institutions instead of strong individual(non talanted) rulers , and decisions must be made on merit by these institutions not by dictators.

 

[19887]

I guess this is where I have to disagree with you on Irans missile effectiveness categorically, as the videos and lack of contrasting evidence in saying the missiles were ineffective don't support your claims.

Irans missile strike was indeed highly effective and did it's job fairly well and destroyed a a large number of ISIS targets.

But regardless ok.

You look at the missile that hit
I also see the missiles that missed the target

* No one is stupid enough to expose himself (sources or abilities) just to show that the Iranians are liars

 

[StandForInsaf]

Do you think they could have pulled this off against another group of nations? replace Arab states Egypt, Syria, Iraq & Saudi with Turkey, Iran, Pakistan or Malaysia.

No they wont be able to match these countries , israel is very small country , ya if modern crusader us/uk/eu fight for them then it will be an other story.

 

[19887]

Last thing Mountain Jew I wanted to commend you on answering the questions laid before you in an acceptable manner, as you conducted yourself adequately. This conservation was not in vain and gave me a greater understanding of the Jewish way of thinking as well as Israel and the concept of Israel (based on your view). Naturally I still have my great criticsm and hatred of certain things Israel does.

So in closing, thank you.

I'll end this conversation with a tip
Always doubt what you believe, and what others believe,
Be free, be free it means your opinions and your thoughts will be yours, from your independent research
Any concept you know, question it, examine it, analyze it
Live your life otherwise you will live a life of others

 

[Blue In Green]

You look at the missile that hit
I also see the missiles that missed the target

* No one is stupid enough to expose himself (sources or abilities) just to show that the Iranians are liars

Yet again I disagree as my sources say the opposite of what you claim. But as I said before let bygones be bygones.

 

[19887]

Lack of Systematic Leadership
Lack of merit
Lack of technology

Democracy if implemented properly produces merit based results.
Dictatorship is harder to change if you got lucky you will get a good ruler.

Arabs must move to a system which is more merit based instead of royalty and loyalty.
Take example of Britain they have kings/queens but queen have separated herself from matters of governance , and they have given chance to merit based governance.

They need strong institutions instead of strong individual(non talanted) rulers , and decisions must be made on merit by these institutions not by dictators.

You can't change the form of a regime without changing the culture of people
The solution may be to adapt the regime to the culture
The concept of Emirates (based on the tribe) can be the solution for the entire Arab world
Nationalism and democracy are European concepts, they are not Arab, they donwt fit the current culture in the Middle East

 

[HariPrasad]

Because they are honest people dedicate to their nation Willing to work hard and willing to make any sacrifise for nation.

 

[StandForInsaf]

You can't change the form of a regime without changing the culture of people
The solution may be to adapt the regime to the culture
The concept of Emirates (based on the tribe) can be the solution for the entire Arab world
Nationalism and democracy are European concepts, they are not Arab, they donwt fit the current culture in the Middle East

Democracy is equivalent to shura system , Holy prophet presented the word of GOD to the people of Medina and they accepted it by their own will is the greatest example of democracy.

Remove fashshi biddah and anti Islamic things from democracy and its good to go.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Hasn't it come little late? I mean 5K years!!!!!

He is a long term planner, didn't You know.
Of course it is only one of several theories.

36000 NATO troops deployed in the region and Israel is there just to prevent this.
Same forces are at work to prevent unified EU as well. 100,000 troops are deployed there.

And 36,000 NATO troops are enough to make Arab Armies freeze in panic...
Sounds plausible - not....
NATO is an example of unification of countries.
EU is not a military organisation.
Membership of one does not affect membership of the other.

If You are looking for Your tin foil hat, it is on Your head...

Yes, true. Since then there has been a virtual total control by the Israeli lobby of the American political system and media. America is being bled dry for Israel.

The support for Israel is but noise in the American budget.
If You sum together the USAID to Egypt, Iraq and Syria, it is about the same
as the USAID to Israel.