Why is Iran upset with Pakistan?

[Muhammed45]

I have a question from those who say that Iran doesn't want Sunni rule in Afghanistan?

Why didn't any of Shia Groups pick a fight against Taliban? Who did order them to do so? Why did Fatemiyoun put their guns down and embrace Taliban rule?

Btw, are Panjshiris Shias that you try to portray everything done by American puppet Masoud an Iranian matter?

Iran On Pakistan Panjshir Attack: Iran Ex President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Warns Pakistan Will Face Consequences In Panjshir Afghanistan
Link here

Ahmadi is an attention seeker. After being disqualified for presidency, he is throwing BS here and there. A dead pawn on the chessboard.

 

[KaiserX]

I have a question from those who say that Iran doesn't want Sunni rule in Afghanistan?

Why didn't any of Shia Groups pick a fight against Taliban? Who did order them to do so? Why did Fatemiyoun put their guns down and embrace Taliban rule?

Btw, are Panjshiris Shias that you try to portray everything done by American puppet Masoud an Iranian matter?

Simple because Iran cannot afford to have an issue with Pakistan/Taliban to its east yet still pokes its nose in other countries. This is why I say the Ayatollah Shiite Zionist regime in Tehran is not rational. Which rational states picks fight with every neighbor/friend/enemy at once?

Which rational state wants to provoke another Nuclear power while already provoking 2 nuclear powers (US/Israel)? Does Iran expect to send all 80 million of its Men, Women, and Children to fight against all these countries? (US/ISRAEL/PAKISTAN/AFGHANISTAN/TURKEY/AZERBAIJAN/SAUDI ARABIA/UAE)

Yesterday Iran is poking its affairs in Afghanistan/Pakistan, today Iran is bombing Iraqi soverign territory....

 

[Muhammed45]

Simple because Iran cannot afford to have an issue with Pakistan/Taliban to its east yet still pokes its nose in other countries. This is why I say the Ayatollah Shiite Zionist regime in Tehran is not rational. Which rational states picks fight with every neighbor/friend/enemy at once?

Yesterday Iran is poking its affairs in Afghanistan/Pakistan, today Iran is bombing Iraqi soverign territory....

You Take the friendly/brotherly gesture as a sign of weakness?

How do you Translate Iranian support for Taliban in the past?

 

[Baby Leone]

It gets even more funnier. You also left out why Iran is in Yemen.. i am sure you don't want me to post video's and pictures of Saudi airforces bombing Yemeni women and children.

More funny, you left out that Iran also helps Sunni Hamas and Palestinian sunni factions in the Gaza strip.

Afghanistan is a barren, landlocked wasteland. Iran has no real interest in there. You can play fake jihad there. The real stuff is happening at the left side.

So, if Iran is so much concerned about all Muslims than why don't start some proxies in kashmir and help kashmiri Muslims too? Why sitting on Indian laps despite that Indians ditched Iran several times on USA orders.

 

[KaiserX]

You Take the friendly/brotherly gesture as a sign of weakness?

How do you Translate Iranian support for Taliban in the past?

Iran never supported the taliban until very recent when they saw the Taliban were on the verge of victory... your time to choose was in 01 when you supported US invasion of Afghanistan, 03 when you supported the invasion of Iraq, and the last decade since when you are invading Sunni lands in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Lebanon.

You supported Taliban only because you have no choice. Look at your former president and his crazy theories on indian news channels... do iranian people actually believe what he is saying?

EXCLUSIVE: Pak will face consequences of its actions in Afghan, warns ex-Iran prez Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Amid reports that Pakistan had helped the Taliban quell the resistance in Panjshir, Iran’s former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Islamabad that it will be haunted by its actions in near future in which he foresaw the militant group threatening Pakistani government and sovereignty...

www.wionews.com

Even a baffoon like Trump sounds so much more intelligent than Iranian leaders. Tell me which direction are iranian people letting their government go? Today look where the world is, look where your neighbors are and look what direction you are heading.

You talk about karbala and mourn hussain, well you created a million hussains through your actions in Syria, Iraq, Yemen, and Lebanon. Believe me your actions will come back to bite you. Even your leaders are so insecure they show their own insecurites onto others.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

And what have you achieved? Nothing except more bloodshed. No grounds made against Israel. No grounds made in Yemen. No grounds made in Iraq. Nothing to your name. Nada. Zilch.

You can have active proxies in a hundred countries, it wont matter if they arent successful. Mujahideen were successful against the soviets they took control of Afghanistan and stopped the soviets. What have your 'proxies' done?

Nothing except cause more innocent blood to be spilled. Not to mention how these proxies are directed against muslim nations as well cough cough Houthi rebels cough cough

Ur going in bruh LMFAO

 

[Muhammed45]

Iran never supported the taliban until very recent when they saw the Taliban were on the verge of victory... your time to choose was in 01 when you supported US invasion of Afghanistan, 03 when you supported the invasion of Iraq, and the last decade since when you are invading Sunni lands in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Lebanon.

You supported Taliban only because you have no choice. Look at your former president and his crazy theories on indian news channels... do iranian people actually believe what he is saying?

EXCLUSIVE: Pak will face consequences of its actions in Afghan, warns ex-Iran prez Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Amid reports that Pakistan had helped the Taliban quell the resistance in Panjshir, Iran’s former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad warned Islamabad that it will be haunted by its actions in near future in which he foresaw the militant group threatening Pakistani government and sovereignty...

www.wionews.com

Even a baffoon like Trump sounds so much more intelligent than Iranian leaders. Tell me which direction are iranian people letting their government go? Today look where the world is, look where your neighbors are and look what direction you are heading.

You talk about karbala and mourn hussain, well you created a million hussains through your actions.

And how do you Translate Pakistani providing airspace for Americans to bomb Taliban after all? Pakistanis must be a Shia majority, are they?

 

[HAIDER]

I have a question from those who say that Iran doesn't want Sunni rule in Afghanistan?

Why didn't any of Shia Groups pick a fight against Taliban? Who did order them to do so? Why did Fatemiyoun put their guns down and embrace Taliban rule?

Btw, are Panjshiris Shias that you try to portray everything done by American puppet Masoud an Iranian matter?

Ahmadi is an attention seeker. After being disqualified for presidency, he is throwing BS here and there. A dead pawn on the chessboard.

Ahmed Shah Masood and Panjshiris are Hanfi sunni muslims. Only issue is that ,a major chunk of Afghan people speak Persian and close to Persian culture. Where we have issue ,that due to limited knowledge majority of our PDF posters think they are shia.



Massoud was a Sunni Hanafi Muslim. At the age of 16, he was recruited by the Islamic movement with ideological ties to the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood. Massoud wanted an independent prosperous Afghanistan living in peace with its neighbours. He wanted the people to choose their government. He spoke of democracy in the context of the people of Afghanistan, who are Muslims. Massoud did not support a liberal democracy where Islamic Law would be watered down or abandoned in the name of moderation. For this reason, many in Western political circles viewed him as a fundamentalist, a label that Massoud never opposed but only qualified.

Afghanistan in the shadow of Ahmad Shah Massoud

The story of 9/11 is in reality the story of the legendary Afghan freedom fighter Ahmad Shah Massoud

www.aljazeera.com

 

[SalarHaqq]

Ahmed i Nijad is liberal? You really expect us to belive this bullshit that it was to placate liberals?

Calm down... When did I classify Ahmadinejad as liberal? Ahmadinejad is a largely sidelined character nowadays. However, many of his views have taken a complete u-turn compared to when he was in charge and he definitely is no longer the radical revolutionary he used to be. As said, he gave an interview to an anti-Hezbollah TV channel in Lebanon sometime ago. He has practically become an anti-establishment politician who's trying to stay relevant by making provocative comments - provocative domestically and not internationally this time around. To consider Ahmadinejad's statements as somehow representative of Iran's foreign policy orientation would therefore be way off track.

This said, why do you assume Ahmadinejad is the only person to criticize Iran's normalization efforts vis a vis the Taliban? The main advocates of intervention against the Taliban are and remain reformists and centrists, ie liberals. People like Sadegh Zibakalam (university professor and major reformist activist), people like Hossein Dehbashi (journalist, documentary filmmaker and architect of Rouhani's presidential campaign). I also indicated that film stars and other so-called "celebrities" have been involved in this campaign, all of whom are known for their reformist leanings and have nothing to do with Ahmadinejad. Liberals, who are much more influential within the system than Ahmadinejad will ever be, are exerting pressure on the Raisi administration, on the IRGC and on the Supreme Leader in hopes of pushing them to revise Iran's Afghanistan policy.

So yes, you can believe the above because it's accurate and based on local Iranian media, which I follow on a daily basis.

 

[pakpride00090]

So, if Iran is so much concerned about all Muslims than why don't start some proxies in kashmir and help kashmiri Muslims too? Why sitting on Indian laps despite that Indians ditched Iran several times on USA orders.

Talking big is easy when you only have to kill kids in Syria with Russian Airpower.

Can't replicate the same actions against Taliban because big daddy is backing them and would intervene.

Can't replicate the same actions to save Kashmiri Shias because unlike Syria , India is a major power.

These Iranian criminals can only act tough while killing innocent civilians that too with the support of Russian military power.

Have they done anything against Israel that have regularly killed their top scientists and US that killed its top IRCG general ? No . Nothing.

 

[AgnosticIndian]

man all this seems massively overblown for sectarian reasons. this is just one or two statements by former officeholders and Iranian members themselves have clarified multiple times. but some Pakistan memebers seem to want to drag Iran for sectarian reasons, that is obvious. KaisarX seems to personally dislike Shias and Iran specifically, more for religious reasons and less for anything geostrategic related to Pakistan. and what does India have to do? only a previous officerholder has mentioned India. India-Iran relations aren't even that high anymore.

 

[Imran Khan]

iran is upset with whole planet

 

[BRAVO_]

its not about sunni vs shia .. its politics and every country watch its own interests ... when Taliban will send a signal to iran that they will consider iranian interest .. tone would change ....... for the time being iranian govt want that international political forces should consider them a major player in the region and through that they increase their political acceptance and reach in western govt.... even turkey got its share in Afghanistan through establishing an understanding with Taliban to run the Kabul airport which is the main point of air connection with rest of world and turkey is back in business because entire Nato would have to deal with Turkey for upcoming years so they would have a political significance in international politics in future .... on the other hand what iran got out of it ??? i guess nothing ... in my opinion for a long lasting peace in Afghanistan iran should also bring forward where they dont feel left ignored ... and iran should also act wisely through supporting the Taliban govt and should send doctors or other professional in afghanistan or alteast in Persian speaking areas to gain its foothold in ordinary public ... just pointing fingers toward others will not solve anything but practical actions can

 

[kingQamaR]

Guy, he is right. Pakistan has always been submissive to west even when they savagely bombed Pakistani civilians for no reason. They killed innocents and got away with it. They have done similar things to us whenevrr they could but they always received the Iranian reaction. Bombing Ain Al Assad airbase, bombing American warship after hitting Iranian airliner over Persian Gulf etc. We have always responded to their savagery unlike Pakistan. We have increased the uranium purity to 60 percent, we are using advanced centrifuges in spite of JCPOA commitments. We removed iaea spies from nuclear facilities etc

Pakistan has always made emotional decision and killing leaders of Panjshir is an example of it. It was actually pouring gasoline on Afghanistan's internal fire. It doesn't mean that Iran supports panjshir or something like that, Iran has always asked for intra Afghan talks to avoid civil war. Pakistan made it even harder to gather Afghans around a table. The bloodshed might increase and the silent cores of Panjshir and other areas might rise again as well. A dangerous move and an irresponsible act from Pakistani side.

It remains to be seen whether Taliban honors its commitments. We have to wait and see if there will be an other civil war in Afghanistan and anyone providing the ground for such a scenario would be responsible for the bloodshed in Afghanistan in this world or in the here after.

now please tell me! how have you cleaned your own slate of submission so easily when it comes to your king shah of Iran sadly biggest stooge in the region bigger than then the Saudis. So how you going round telling lies about others when your history is full of stooges. Please keep spinning your centrifuges every day they are getting bigger and bigger in your strong power. A weak country Pakistan has harmed the USA badly most experts except it. nothing comes close to what we done to USA and ussr no more falsely praising your revolution who co-operated fully with the USA Shame on you for lying on this. like it or not Afghanistan will never have another civil war. panjshiri valley hosting Indians and you is now cleaned up by us Pakhtuns it will kept like this, where is that coward panjshiri lion we eat and sleep in your den you filthy USA Israeli Indian agent. Soon we will marry your woman who so there cowards run to USA and the west

 

[Muhammed45]

now please tell me! how have you cleaned your own slate of submission so easily when it comes to your king shah of Iran sadly biggest stooge in the region bigger than then the Saudis. So how you going round telling lies about others when your history is full of stooges. Please keep spinning your centrifuges every day they are getting bigger and bigger in your strong power. A weak country Pakistan has harmed the USA badly most experts except it. nothing comes close to what we done to USA and ussr no more falsely praising your revolution who co-operated fully with the USA Shame on you for lying on this. like it or not Afghanistan will never have another civil war. panjshiri valley hosting Indians and you is now cleaned up by us Pakhtuns it will kept like this, where is that coward panjshiri lion we eat and sleep in your den you filthy USA Israeli Indian agent. Soon we will marry your woman who so there cowards run to USA and the west

You give too much Credit to Indians and i think that its done unkowingly. You saw their investment disappeared in a blink of an eye. So why mention them every where? They have almost lost their importance.

Btw, don't you Iranic Pakhtuns have enough women to breed with that you keep your eyes on those Iranic Panjshiri women?