Why is Iran upset with Pakistan?

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I have a question from those who say that Iran doesn't want Sunni rule in Afghanistan?

Why didn't any of Shia Groups pick a fight against Taliban? Who did order them to do so? Why did Fatemiyoun put their guns down and embrace Taliban rule?

Btw, are Panjshiris Shias that you try to portray everything done by American puppet Masoud an Iranian matter?

Ahmadi is an attention seeker. After being disqualified for presidency, he is throwing BS here and there. A dead pawn on the chessboard.

leash your dead pawns who like to bark at their neighbors, we also have many dogs in our circles who'd be more than willing to bark at you guys for 24/7 but we don't let that happen.

 

[Tornado23]

Ur going in bruh LMFAO

Some people need a reality check

 

[prothought]

Iran has not armed or funded Panjshir recently. Iran is the master of all proxy warfares, if it decides to do so no one will be able to stop Iran. The reason Iran ''abandonded'' Panjshir is because of the strategic understanding with Taliban (their leaders visited Iran frequently in the recent years).

Iran ''abandonded'' Panjshir? Why are then Iranians fuming so badly? There must be something presumably bad happened for Iran in Afghanistan. We would like know that.

Are you okay, son?

You just exhibited your stupidity by addressing that member in such a way. Please come back to civilized world.

 

[Dariush the Great]

so you are saying that tehran times is not close to regime?

No. The only media source that is close to Iran's decision makers is Farsnews.ir.

 

[SD 10]

No. The only media source that is close to Iran's decision makers is Farsnews.ir.

okay good to know that!

 

[Maula Jatt]

man all this seems massively overblown for sectarian reasons. this is just one or two statements by former officeholders and Iranian members themselves have clarified multiple times. but some Pakistan memebers seem to want to drag Iran for sectarian reasons, that is obvious. KaisarX seems to personally dislike Shias and Iran specifically, more for religious reasons and less for anything geostrategic related to Pakistan. and what does India have to do? only a previous officerholder has mentioned India. India-Iran relations aren't even that high anymore.

Its 5-6 same posters who keep coming to Iran threads again and again
while people who seem reasonable and are trying to engage with the content
just do one or two posts and move on

but some posters are so "committed" thread turns into a shit show

 

[Maira La]

Why don't Pakistan and Iran just work together to make sure both their interests are protected in Afghanistan? If both can assure each other that they will not allow a third country to hurt their interests through proxies (or puppet regime) in Afghanistan, then Iran can focus more on it's Western borders without worrying about threats from Afghanistan, and likewise Pakistan will have less problem to deal with and can focus more on its Kashmir issue with India.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Guy, he is right. Pakistan has always been submissive to west even when they savagely bombed Pakistani civilians for no reason. They killed innocents and got away with it. They have done similar things to us whenevrr they could but they always received the Iranian reaction. Bombing Ain Al Assad airbase, bombing American warship after hitting Iranian airliner over Persian Gulf etc. We have always responded to their savagery unlike Pakistan. We have increased the uranium purity to 60 percent, we are using advanced centrifuges in spite of JCPOA commitments. We removed iaea spies from nuclear facilities etc

Pakistan has always made emotional decision and killing leaders of Panjshir is an example of it. It was actually pouring gasoline on Afghanistan's internal fire. It doesn't mean that Iran supports panjshir or something like that, Iran has always asked for intra Afghan talks to avoid civil war. Pakistan made it even harder to gather Afghans around a table. The bloodshed might increase and the silent cores of Panjshir and other areas might rise again as well. A dangerous move and an irresponsible act from Pakistani side.

It remains to be seen whether Taliban honors its commitments. We have to wait and see if there will be an other civil war in Afghanistan and anyone providing the ground for such a scenario would be responsible for the bloodshed in Afghanistan in this world or in the here after.
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Pak had nothing to do with Panjsheer, there's no evidence of it except for fake videos from video games and of planes that were never even in the PAF

 

[Taimoor Khan]

The Iranian polity is no monolith. Pay attention to who those behind the outcry really are: reformists and centrists ie western-apologetic liberals. Not the IRGC, not the Supreme Leader, not the revolutionary factions.

Ahmadinejad a liberal?

 

[Dariush the Great]

Its 5-6 same posters who keep coming to Iran threads again and again
while people who seem reasonable and are trying to engage with the content
just do one or two posts and move on

but some posters are so "committed" thread turns into a shit show

Mate, it seems that there are many of them on other platforms such as twitter. Now i don't know if they are Pakistanis working in Arab countries e.g. depending on bread from there or real genuine independent Pakistanis.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Why don't Pakistan and Iran just work together to make sure both their interests are protected in Afghanistan? If both can assure each other that they will not allow a third country to hurt their interests through proxies (or puppet regime) in Afghanistan, then Iran can focus more on it's Western borders without worrying about threats from Afghanistan, and likewise Pakistan will have one less problem to deal with and can focus more on its Kashmir issue with India.

This is exactly what's happening, FM are consistently in touch with each other
but as the game is coming to an end their are going to be some disagreement and if it reaches a defense forum
you know what happens

 

[KaiserX]

iran is upset with whole planet

Tell me seriously even North Korea is far more rational than Iran. They seriously expect to fight each of their neighbors along with Israel/US/Gulf and God know who else they might piss off in the process.

Are they planning on using million of child soldiers as they are well known to have done in the past and do still today?

It is a very dangerous path I tell you, they might feel emboldened by India but we have seen how quickly India bailed on its proxies in Afghanistan.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Mate, it seems that there are many of them on other platforms such as twitter. Now i don't know if they are Pakistanis working in Arab countries e.g. depending on bread from there or real genuine independent Pakistanis.

this is my opinion
Its nationalism for a lot of years we were playing ummah game but as we are getting old as a nation, there's more of a nationalistic approach to stuff in the newer generation

people say its sectarian or what not but tbh people talk shit about Saudi too, actually a lot more than they do about Iran

its like counter to the older generation (who are in gov rn) ummah focus to now nationalism - even though I really like the new development but unfortunately this energy transfers in the negative way to instead of making friends, they are actively trying to get provoked on the slightest of provocation

These same guys will sing friendship songs in right about 6 months if Iran does something nice, they'll talk about deep cultural relationship and all the 9 yard (they'll genuinely feel that too- it flip flops all the time)

When this time passes people will move on and find someone else, don't take it seriously

 

[Maula Jatt]

Number of rumours going on but does any one know why Iran is upset with Pak on Afghan government?


Were they looking for more role in new IEA government?


Reliable sources have claimed that Pak and US have had a detailed discussion on this and Pak agreed to US that they wont let Iran take advantage of situation in Afghanistan. Pak through a third country ( ? China ? US) agreed with Israel for no role of Iran in new Afghan government. Not sure what will Pak get in return for these favours, however things have been agreed upon, we ll see them in coming months.


Iranian are not stupid, every thing in Iranian media is tightly monitored and regulated , we can't simply ignore as an individual's opinion when Ahmedinijad spoke to Indian TV ( ? Why he chose India Television is also a strong signal of unhappiness with Pak) . They know that as a mater of fact that Pakistan had no role in Panjshir events. Also Iran has no sympathy with resistance, if they were sympathetic they would have given asylum to leadership of resistance. Expect some senior Indian leadership travelling to Iran or vice versa, to send strong signals to Pakistan.

There is defiantly something else going on .


Any sane opinions please?

share the video or anything with us

 

[El Sidd]

share the video or anything with us

why are you spamming all the Iranian threads?