Why India and Pakistan will keep growing apart

[Thorn]

It sounds like the article is making out that India and Paksitan could be moving to a point of no return wrt reconciliation but it seems we are already way past this point and that the best anyone can hope for is peaceful co-existence.

exactly what i wanted to say.

off topicajtr plz 1 positive thread from you,am i asking for too much

 

[Mysterious]

enjoy this funny video

News if India & Pakistan were not divided - YouTube

 

[Contrarian]

Wish that were possible. I think they'd be happier being in Central Asia or Arab peninsula or near bouts.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

The sad truth of the matter is that India and Pakistan came into being due to a flawed concept that was further perpetuated by the incompleteness of its execution.

I am afraid most Indians especially the younger ones would not agree with you . The concept Of partition was very sound and thank god that it happened .

 

[ajtr]

exactly what i wanted to say.

off topicajtr plz 1 positive thread from you,am i asking for too much

check out members section and cultural and social news sect positive threads.Its very difficult to find news positives one in strategic geopolitics and politics.

 

[third eye]

Don't worry, Pakistan will never unite with India.

The religious factor is the biggest thing.

Same thing with Myanmar. Myanmar will never unite with India. Myanmar is a predominantly Buddhist country.

We should ban Saris in Pakistan! We should not even trade with India.

The only thing we have in common with India is the territorial dispute.

Insh'Allah when the war in Afghanistan is over, we Pakistanis should increase our bilateral relations with our Central Asian brothers.

Forget India.

We also need to increase our bilateral relations with China and Iran.

Although our country is a Sunni country, at least we have a common culture with Iran in sense that, we share the same "conservative culture."

We don't need bollywood prostitue dancing and saris revealing the belly.

I just heard Indians want to build a casino in their Punjab. Unfortunately India is becoming a gambling house!

We need Pakistanize our country.

Sindh needs to be renamed "Sindistan" and our Punjab "Punjabistan."

Banning saris, renaming Sind & Punjab with a suffix of ' istan'

How will this help ??

How do you ' Pakistnize' Pakistan ? ..and that too any more than it already is !!!

 

[Parul]

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[my2cents]

The 2NT is not acceptable to many Indians not because of a non acceptance of Pakistan (& Bangladesh), it is simply an imperative if we believe in an secular India & assume that Muslim citizens are equal to the others in every sense. That's all. No sane Indian wants to undo partition or cares about pre-partition India anymore. Indian rejection of the 2NT theory is all about how we see our country & the direction we would want it to go in.

As for your argument of not being the same people, that silly notion(of being) is just the last gasps from some Punjabis who might have had connections with parts of what is now Pakistan. No Indian from the South or the East will ever make the argument that Pakistanis & they are the same people and most from the North too have moved on. They aren't (the same people) & what little connections existed certainly don't anymore some 65 years after partition.

indian union has survived for past 65 years despite doomsayers predictions that we will disintegrate soon after the partition. The ride has not been smooth and none envisaged that it would be. Let us celebrate what we have achieved and hope our new generations will not take our security for granted.

 

[Hindustani]

Don't worry, Pakistan will never unite with India.

The religious factor is the biggest thing.

Same thing with Myanmar. Myanmar will never unite with India. Myanmar is a predominantly Buddhist country.

We should ban Saris in Pakistan! We should not even trade with India.

The only thing we have in common with India is the territorial dispute.

Insh'Allah when the war in Afghanistan is over, we Pakistanis should increase our bilateral relations with our Central Asian brothers.

Forget India.

We also need to increase our bilateral relations with China and Iran.

Although our country is a Sunni country, at least we have a common culture with Iran in sense that, we share the same "conservative culture."

We don't need bollywood prostitue dancing and saris revealing the belly.

I just heard Indians want to build a casino in their Punjab. Unfortunately India is becoming a gambling house!

We need Pakistanize our country.

Sindh needs to be renamed "Sindistan" and our Punjab "Punjabistan."

I completely agree with your statement 100%

Btw, we're importing your actresses/models so no need to worry about Bollywood coming to pakistan

 

[my2cents]

Don't worry, Pakistan will never unite with India.

The religious factor is the biggest thing.

Same thing with Myanmar. Myanmar will never unite with India. Myanmar is a predominantly Buddhist country.

We should ban Saris in Pakistan! We should not even trade with India.

The only thing we have in common with India is the territorial dispute.

Insh'Allah when the war in Afghanistan is over, we Pakistanis should increase our bilateral relations with our Central Asian brothers.

Forget India.

We also need to increase our bilateral relations with China and Iran.

Although our country is a Sunni country, at least we have a common culture with Iran in sense that, we share the same "conservative culture."

We don't need bollywood prostitue dancing and saris revealing the belly.

I just heard Indians want to build a casino in their Punjab. Unfortunately India is becoming a gambling house!

We need Pakistanize our country.

Sindh needs to be renamed "Sindistan" and our Punjab "Punjabistan."

you can do all of the above if you can reconcile whatever happened in past is past and move forward.

You have extreme right wing who are ready to wage a 1000 year war and ready to eat grass and then you have extreme left wing who want good relations with us.

You have daunting task ahead of you. Good luck in convincing others to let go of all the ties.

 

[angeldust]

It is indeed very interesting when an Indian born in post-partition India says that, the two nation theory was flawed or was wrong. Those born and bred in post-partition environment have lived in two different countries as two different sets of peoples belonging to two different nations for over 60 years now. So why would the Indians still call it a flawed concept. Why is it that the Indians do not accept the fact that Pakistan is a reality and won’t go away because of what they feel was a flawed concept.

I am a Pakistani. I don’t know what India looks like. I don’t know many Indian people. I see them as foreign nationals belonging to a neighbouring country. Yet even after over 60 years of our creation I am being bombarded with the mantra that somehow, Indians and Pakistanis are the same people.

Why can’t we accept the fact that we are two different people, from two different countries which happen to exist in the same geographical region. I don’t even want to be called a South Asian, because I am only a Pakistani.

Most of such ideas emanate from India. By still challenging the two nation theory, they don’t accept the creation of Pakistan and subsequent emergence of Bangladesh. For those who cite creation of Bangladesh as a negation of two nation theory fail to understand that, Bangladesh did not rejoin Indian union and has probably reframed the two nation theory into three nation theory.

I immensely dislike when Indians here come and challenge the existence of my country, telling me that we are the same people, telling me that our cultures are the same, our languages are the same. How can one sink it in their upper story that I am neither like any Indian, that my language is different, that my culture is different and that I am a Pakistani. My father would’ve lived in pre-partition India. As for me and many more like me, I am a Pakistani and very proud that I am.

You misunderstood completely what I said.

The TNT was flawed and without basis.

That was the start.

But once the break happened, it should have gone all the way.

Would have been better for both of us.

As things stand today, the tensions are kept simmering by you using misguided youth of our country to do your dirty work.

The community suffers. India suffers. And ultimately if India suffers, Pakistan will also be made to suffer.

If a clean break had happened, we could actually have gone our seperate ways.

 

[jinxeD_girl]

I am afraid most Indians especially the younger ones would not agree with you . The concept Of partition was very sound and thank god that it happened .

yes I agree 100% Thank God

 

[INDIC]

Don't worry, Pakistan will never unite with India.

The religious factor is the biggest thing.

Same thing with Myanmar. Myanmar will never unite with India. Myanmar is a predominantly Buddhist country.

We should ban Saris in Pakistan! We should not even trade with India.

The only thing we have in common with India is the territorial dispute.

Insh'Allah when the war in Afghanistan is over, we Pakistanis should increase our bilateral relations with our Central Asian brothers.

Forget India.

We also need to increase our bilateral relations with China and Iran.

Although our country is a Sunni country, at least we have a common culture with Iran in sense that, we share the same "conservative culture."

We don't need bollywood prostitue dancing and saris revealing the belly.

I just heard Indians want to build a casino in their Punjab. Unfortunately India is becoming a gambling house!

We need Pakistanize our country.

Sindh needs to be renamed "Sindistan" and our Punjab "Punjabistan."

Greater than the greatest ideas.

 

[Ticker]

Another thing which is very interesting is that somehow Indians feel that Pakistan is crowded with Shuttle **** type Kabuli Burqa clad women and that all the people have long beards, and AK-47 totting Taliban etc are roaming the streets of major cities.

I don’t remember having seen a Shttle **** Type Burqa since very very long indeed. Some of the visiting Indian media and other Indian nationals would be surprised that the Pakistani cities are void of such perception which is prevalent in India.

Infact Delhites say that generally Delhi goes to sleep early after dark. Contrarily, MM Alam Road in Lahore is bustling with male and female pedestrians late into night and restaurants and shopping malls are full. Women driving cars late at night in Lahore is not an uncommon site. I wonder why and how this negative impression about Pakistan took root in India.

 

[angeldust]

Another thing which is very interesting is that somehow Indians feel that Pakistan is crowded with Shuttle **** type Kabuli Burqa clad women and that all the people have long beards, and AK-47 totting Taliban etc are roaming the streets of major cities.

I don’t remember having seen a Shttle **** Type Burqa since very very long indeed. Some of the visiting Indian media and other Indian nationals would be surprised that the Pakistani cities are void of such perception which is prevalent in India.

Infact Delhites say that generally Delhi goes to sleep early after dark. Contrarily, MM Alam Road in Lahore is bustling with male and female pedestrians late into night and restaurants and shopping malls are full. Women driving cars late at night in Lahore is not an uncommon site. I wonder why and how this negative impression about Pakistan took root in India.

You seem desperate for our approval.

Frankly, we dont give a damn.