Why Don't North American Metro Systems Have Platform Screen Doors?

[beijingwalker]

Why Don't North American Metro Systems Have Platform Screen Doors?​

 

[beijingwalker]

Money problem

 

[beijingwalker]

Some American members here keep telling us that US is "crazy rich"

But I wonder how screen door installation can be that expensive, billions of dollars..., in China couples of million Yuan will be enough to cover them.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Some American members here keep telling us that US is "crazy rich"

But I wonder how screen door installation can be that expensive, billions of dollars..., in China couples of million Yuan will be enough to cover them.

It's not just in North America. Let’s look at some subways in capital/major cities elsewhere:

Neither does the Moscow metro

Neither does the London tube

Neither does the Rome metro

Neither does the Madrid subway

Neither does the Berlin subway

Neither does the Athens subway

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Neither does the Warsaw subway

Neither does the Lisbon subway

Neither does the Budapest subway

Neither does the Oslo subway

Neither does the Stockholm subway

Neither does the Helsinki subway

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Neither does the Belgrade subway

Neither does the Bucharest subway

Neither does the San Paulo subway

Neither does the Rio de Janeiro subway

Neither does the Buenos Aires subway

Neither does the Lima subway

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Neither does the Medellin

Neither does the Caracas

Neither does the Quito subway

Neither does the Fortaleza subway

Neither does the Panama subway

Neither does the Valparaiso, Chile

…and others

 

[beijingwalker]

I can post a long list of the cities which have them, you should learn from the better or from the worse? especially for some country which claims to be the richest in the world.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I can post a long list of the cities which have them, you should learn from the better or from the worse? especially for some country which claims to be the richest in the world.

The thread name is making it look like North America is some specific standout when it comes to platform doors.

That is obviously incorrect. If anything it is probably far more likely that the number of countries around the world that lack platform doors exceeds the number of countries whose systems always use them.

I'm not against platform doors. In fact I think they should be retro-fitted inside US subways systems as they are a good idea.

Singapore pioneered the platform door in 1987. It is a relatively recent idea...and that was to save air-conditioning costs not due to safety concerns.

You can see later in the video when they are outside that there are no platform doors.

 

[beijingwalker]

This is why I say US GDP is total BS, for something as cheap as installing screen doors can cost billions of dollars, what a life could be for the average people.

 

[FuturePAF]

This is why I say US GDP is total BS, for something as cheap as installing screen doors can cost billions of dollars, what a life could be for the average people.

Many Stations were built with the cut and cover method. So supporting columns and curving stations make install Platform doors hard to do in many stations while maintaining mobility on the platforms.

Retrofitting stations for a service used by a limited number of people, while there are other more critics maintenance issues to fix, means this is a luxury not a necessity.

 

[beijingwalker]

Many Stations were built with the cut and cover method. So supporting columns and curving stations make install Platform doors hard to do in many stations while maintaining mobility on the platforms.

Retrofitting stations for a service used by a limited number of people, while there are other more critics maintenance issues to fix, means this is a luxury not a necessity.

If retrofitting is too closely (which is not cause several Beijing subways lines from the 1960's retrofitted screen doors with great ease), why they didn't install the screen doors in newly built subways either?

San Francisco mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years

S.F. mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years San Francisco recently opened its first new subway in over 40 years, with three new underground stations and one above-ground station joining the Muni Metro T Third line.

defence.pk

 

[RealDeal]

North American culture doesn't allow babysitting of citizens. Citizens are allowed to hold guns, parents throw their kids out when they are 18, and people are expected to have basic mental awareness abd be strong, so no pussy *** railings are required. Perhaps only Chinese people are retarded enough that they need a glass screen to prevent them falling on the subway . Whats next, Chinese govt should also install tampon vending machines at all stations so all their men can get free access.

 

[FuturePAF]

If retrofitting is too closely (which is not cause several Beijing subways lines from the 1960's retrofitted screen doors with great ease), why they didn't install the screen doors in newly built subways either?

San Francisco mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years

S.F. mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years San Francisco recently opened its first new subway in over 40 years, with three new underground stations and one above-ground station joining the Muni Metro T Third line.

defence.pk

Probably uniformity. Having some stations with the panels and others without would mean coordinating alignment of where the train. The JFK sky train has the panels though, but it is an automated system.

 

[jhungary]

Neither does the Medellin

Neither does the Caracas

Neither does the Quito subway

Neither does the Fortaleza subway

Neither does the Panama subway

Neither does the Valparaiso, Chile

…and others

You missed Sydney

Sydney Trains Vlog 1879: Martin Place Trainspotting

Vlog 1879Martin Place Trainspotting#railroad #railway #trains Filmed on: 19/12/2021

www.youtube.com

And I am pretty sure why they don't install platform screen in those underground station is because of a safety issue, if the Platform have a fire like King's Cross Station, passengers need to be able to access the track to escape and survive, putting a screen door may trigger a bottleneck or even block passengers escape in case of a station fire.

King's Cross fire - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org