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Whose is bigger?? India - Pak (Media Round 1)

those whom british considered non martial always argue ..you know what because we were fighting against them so they wont recruit us blah blah to soothe their ego. balochis make good camel jockeys not soldiers.

lmao... camel jockey tht owned you sell out sikhs in every battle the met.. as for the british n non martial... moron than they wouldnt have recruited Baluch soldiers nor raised Baluch regiments...

But hey your sikh and its forgiven.. carry on...:lol:
 
Dude - If British recruitment is the criteria of bravery for you than let me remind you that British recruited people whom they consider more loyal to them - Re. Baluchistan - You better first try to read little about Baluchistan.
forget british ...It is also a fact that in Pakistan army baloch number is not comparable to the other ethnic group’s representation in Pakistan army
 
Dude - If British recruitment is the criteria of bravery for you than let me remind you that British recruited people whom they consider more loyal to them - Re. Baluchistan - You better first try to read little about Baluchistan.

Hes an idiot.... Baluch didnt serve in large numbers because... we were resisting the british ... but still some did.. here is one of the Baluch regiment:

129th Baluch:


This infantry regiment was raised on 6th May, 1846 at Karachi, now the largest city in Pakistan. Men were recruited from the Sindh area - Balochis, Sindhis and Pathans, ethnic groups predominantly influenced by Islamic culture. Later, Brahuis and Punjabi Muslims joined their number.

Even in 1914, the red trousers were still a distinctive feature of all five Baluch infantry regiments then serving in the Indian Army.

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Khudadad Khan was born in the village of Dab in the Chakwal district of the Punjab Province of present day Pakistan.

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Ghulam Haider came from Dhawan, Gujar Khan, Rawalpindi, in present day Pakistan

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They both served with the 129th Baluchis in the First World War.

In October 1914, almost immediately after arriving in France, their regiment was amongst 20,000 Indian soldiers sent from Marseilles to the front line to help the troops of the of the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) who were exhausted and had lost many men.

They were needed to prevent the advancing Germans from capturing the vital ports of Boulogne in France and Nieuwpoort in Belgium, where the BEF'S supplies of food and ammunition arrived from England across the Channel.

Khudadad Khan served as a machine gunner. On October 30th, with other Allied troops he faced the Germans as they attacked the village of Hollebeke, near Ypres in Belgium.

The conditions were appalling. The Baluchis were outnumbered five to one. The ground was water-logged so trenches were too shallow to offer much protection. There was no barbed wire. There were many gaps in the lines because there were not enough soldiers.

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The Germans had more effective weaponry and also had hand grenades. The Baluchis had none, so improvised with explosives in jam tins. They were pounded with endless artillery fire and many were killed or wounded.

Two of the Baluchi machine gun crews carried on fighting. One was destroyed with a direct hit. The other was overrun by Germans and everyone was bayoneted or shot, Khudadad Khan amongst them. He was the only one to survive. He pretended to be dead. When night came he crawled away and rejoined what was left of his regiment.

The actions of the Baluchis had held up the Germans long enough for other Indian and British troops to get to the area and halt the attack. The ports remained in Allied hands.

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For his remarkable courage, Khudadad Khan was the first Indian soldier to be awarded the Victoria Cross.

His wounds were treated in one of the Brighton hospitals, alongside Manta Singh

He returned to India and served in the army there. He died in Pakistan in 1971. Some of his descendants live in Leeds.

The 129th Baluchis went on to serve in a number of battles including Neuve Chapelle.

After that, they were sent to German East Africa, today comprising Tanzania, Burundi and Rwanda. There, they, including Ghulam Haider, embarked on a long and difficult campaign.

German colonial forces in East Africa were led by a brilliant tactician, General Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck. His aim was to create havoc in the region so that Allied troops would have to be diverted from the Western Front to deal with him and his men. Historian E. P. Hoyt described his exploits as "as the greatest single guerrilla operation in history, and the most successful."

Despite continued efforts to capture or destroy Lettow-Vorbeck's army, Commonwealth troops failed to end German resistance. They were hampered not only by clever tactics, but disease and even attacks by wild animals. In 1917, Major General J.L. van Deventer took over command.

In July, once the rainy season had ended, he launched a major offensive. The German forces had been chivvied south into what is now Mozambique. It was during this series of raids that Ghulam Haider was killed, on July 29th.

He is commemorated on the Dar Es Salaam British and Indian Memorial

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CWGC - Casualty Details

Captain Robert Dolbey recorded in his journal 'Sketches of the East Africa Campaign' that "The Baluchis, in particular, have covered themselves with glory in many a fight."

The 129th (Duke of Connaught's Own) Baluchis suffered a staggering 3585 casualties out of the 4447 men who served with it in the First World War.
 

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maybe baloch dont like to join army and fight or get killed..their priorities are something else
 
forget british ...It is also a fact that in Pakistan army baloch number is not comparable to the other ethnic group’s representation in Pakistan army

Thats coz of small population of Baluchistan.. but Baluch also live in punjab,sindh n kpk... Southern Punjab... sindh itself was ruled by Baluch... DI Khan etc in KPK.. kiddo.
 
Thats coz of small population of Baluchistan.. but Baluch also live in punjab,sindh n kpk... Southern Punjab... sindh itself was ruled by Baluch... DI Khan etc in KPK.. kiddo.
huh..they couldnt get in because of strict rules of the army recruitment..lately pakistani army changed ruled to accomodate balochis . lol...
 
Hes an idiot.... Baluch didnt serve in large numbers because... we were resisting the british ... but still some did.. here is one of the Baluch regiment:

Actually he first have to learn that there were princely states in Baluchistan where Sardars/Khans had their own armies/militias -
 
Baluchistan province (total inclusive of all ethnicities) is about 5% of Pakistan in term of population and their current share in Army is 4%.
4% is low .. in 2011 under chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the standards of Pak Army have been relaxed for Balochi recruits. This is the reason why today such a huge number of youth from Balochistan province are becoming a part of the Pakistan Army because of unfair recruitment.

n this vindicates the policy of british of considering balochis as nonmartial..anyways you can continue. i m out gotta go
 
4% is low .. in 2011 under chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the standards of Pak Army have been relaxed for Balochi recruits. This is the reason why today such a huge number of youth from Balochistan province are becoming a part of the Pakistan Army because of unfair recruitment.

Relaxation in term of education as literacy rate is very low in Baluchistan. And 4% is 2011's figure, after this relaxation i am sure they will be near 5% now as in last couple of years thousands of Baluchs have joined armed forces.
 
maybe baloch dont like to join army and fight or get killed..their priorities are something else

No we didnt fight for others .. we fought them... :lol:

As for fighting.. haha.. your ancestors would have testified to the war loving Baluch n their lust for war.. :lol:



huh..they couldnt get in because of strict rules of the army recruitment..lately pakistani army changed ruled to accomodate balochis . lol...


No coz you are stupid:

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Relaxation in term of education as literacy rate is very low in Baluchistan. And 4% is 2011's figure, after this relaxation i am sure they will be near 5% now as in last couple of years thousands of Baluchs have joined armed forces.


14000 joined in 2009 alone..
 
maybe baloch dont like to join army and fight or get killed..their priorities are something else

As i told you must try to read little bit on Baluchistan - Blauch sardars maintain the militias and they are more into fighting/killing like Pashtun tribes than any Punjabi.
 
4% is low .. in 2011 under chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, the standards of Pak Army have been relaxed for Balochi recruits. This is the reason why today such a huge number of youth from Balochistan province are becoming a part of the Pakistan Army because of unfair recruitment.

n this vindicates the policy of british of considering balochis as nonmartial..anyways you can continue. i m out gotta go

.... show us where the british considered Baluch non martial... and where the famous "Honor the Baluch" quotation comes from..

Apart from several Baluch regiments... we had tribes resisting the british.. while others states etc which had their own armies.. like las bela,makran,kalat,kharan etc...apart from that Sardars/nawabs had their own militias..

Not a troll - but typical racist

scroll back n see how i owned him.. every times his kind met us in battle ... they got slaughtered...

Baluch Regiment .. Battle honors:


 
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