Which version of MiG-29 operated by IRIAF?

[Hack-Hook]

All you see inside the cockpit are screens and gages and no Iran hasn't upgraded it's aircrafts with multiple MFD to replace the gages

All Iranian F-4's are equipped with upgraded radars and Iranian F-5's are a different story

Whatever , as a matter of fact I never see a newer radar at the nose of aircraft .
And all the photos of upgraded radars I have seen come with modern mfd .

 

[VEVAK]

Whatever , as a matter of fact I never see a newer radar at the nose of aircraft .
And all the photos of upgraded radars I have seen come with modern mfd .

They come with 1 MFD not Multiple MFD to replace the gages

 

[Hack-Hook]

They come with 1 MFD not Multiple MFD to replace the gages

Well who talked with multiple Mrs . you see we always show new and digital radar with modern display for aircrafts but for some reasons we won't see them in aircraft .
Well lets don't talk about the display ,it made everything easy but after all it just made it easy but can you show me an f4 nose with upgraded radar?

 

[OldTwilight]

I think it's worth noting that Iran has been modifying these jets, and their actual specifications are open to speculation

There is no modification ....

 

[VEVAK]

Well who talked with multiple Mrs . you see we always show new and digital radar with modern display for aircrafts but for some reasons we won't see them in aircraft .
Well lets don't talk about the display ,it made everything easy but after all it just made it easy but can you show me an f4 nose with upgraded radar?

I don't need to show you any radars the fact that Iran fired Gadr anti ship cruise missiles should be all the proof you need!
FYI info about Iranian F-4 Radar upgrades already went public even GlobalSecurity that always downplays Iran's Military capabilities even acknowledges it so I don't need to prove anything with pictures!

Iranian F-4 were purchased in the 70's hell even my laptop has far more processing power than they did! And you think Iran has kept its' +40year old fighter fleet alive but is somehow deluded enough not to upgrade the 70's tech electronics in them? And that somehow makes sense to you?

Problem with MFD's is that unless your the one that's building them and unless you have full trust in the people that are selling them, you just can't be assured that they will be secure! GPS or a clever command to disarm or disable the aircraft could easily be hidden inside the software!

So yea I wouldn't want someone having the capability to simply switch off all the displays in my Fighter from 100's of km away and simply doing that will render my Fighter useless so Iran has to be super careful and if Iran currently can't produce MFD & HOTAS with 100% Iranian hardware and software that are also EMP proof then yes we'll have to stick to gages

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

There is no modification ....

Your house hasn't been modified

Is actually quite good if IRIAF MiG-29 is 9.12A because it has ECM and IFF instead of 9.12B that doesn't have ECM and IFF

There is no modification ....

Do you have any strong proof that it hasn't been modified,if you had work with IRIAF i will trust you but have you ever been work with IRIAF? I think NO,so stop to spreading a rumour

 

[OldTwilight]

Your house hasn't been modified

Is actually quite good if IRIAF MiG-29 is 9.12A because it has ECM and IFF instead of 9.12B that doesn't have ECM and IFF


Do you have any strong proof that it hasn't been modified,if you had work with IRIAF i will trust you but have you ever been work with IRIAF? I think NO,so stop to spreading a rumour

do you have any strong proof that IRIAF modified her aging fleets !?
Well , I know my country very well ...

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

do you have any strong proof that IRIAF modified her aging fleets !?
Well , I know my country very well ...

Also do you have strong proof that IRIAF not upgraded their Aircraft????

 

[OldTwilight]

Also do you have strong proof that IRIAF not upgraded their Aircraft????

You are claiming that IRIAF upgraded Mig-29 and all of her old junks ...
so you should proof your claim not me ...
this is ABC of logical discussion ...

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

You are claiming that IRIAF upgraded Mig-29 and all of her old junks ...
so you should proof your claim not me ...
this is ABC of logical discussion ...

Lol i don't say that IRIAF upgraded their MiG-29 i said that you said that it hadn't been modified so i request source of your claim that IRIAF doesn't upgrading their MiG-29,also i mean saying that you said IRIAF doesn't upgraded their Aircraft so i requested you to point it out the sources who said that IRIAF doesn't upgraded their Aircraft

I don't need to show you any radars the fact that Iran fired Gadr anti ship cruise missiles should be all the proof you need!
FYI info about Iranian F-4 Radar upgrades already went public even GlobalSecurity that always downplays Iran's Military capabilities even acknowledges it so I don't need to prove anything with pictures!

Iranian F-4 were purchased in the 70's hell even my laptop has far more processing power than they did! And you think Iran has kept its' +40year old fighter fleet alive but is somehow deluded enough not to upgrade the 70's tech electronics in them? And that somehow makes sense to you?

Problem with MFD's is that unless your the one that's building them and unless you have full trust in the people that are selling them, you just can't be assured that they will be secure! GPS or a clever command to disarm or disable the aircraft could easily be hidden inside the software!

So yea I wouldn't want someone having the capability to simply switch off all the displays in my Fighter from 100's of km away and simply doing that will render my Fighter useless so Iran has to be super careful and if Iran currently can't produce MFD & HOTAS with 100% Iranian hardware and software that are also EMP proof then yes we'll have to stick to gages

If you request me to show Iran modified her old aircraft, i just quoted from @VEVAK then^^

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

Also i meet a guy name lensman57 at youtube and he say this "all Iran MiG-29 and mirage f1 are just as shows and France and Russia no longer supplies the Mirage f1 and MiGs so most of it couldn't fly and Iran has 24 F-14 with just few can be use and armed" @VEVAK don't you believe in this Sh*t

 

[VEVAK]

You are claiming that IRIAF upgraded Mig-29 and all of her old junks ...
so you should proof your claim not me ...
this is ABC of logical discussion ...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...50-mig-29-engines-report-idUSL166770620071016

Here the engines were purchased during Ahmadinejad and delivered!

As for sensors those are aren't something Iran would want announced so they make smaller purchases here and there to go unnoticed...

Iran only has 24 active MiG-29's it's not like they have 100's of them!

So clearly you don't know your country!

 

[mohsen]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...50-mig-29-engines-report-idUSL166770620071016

Here the engines were purchased during Ahmadinejad and delivered!

As for sensors those are aren't something Iran would want announced so they make smaller purchases here and there to go unnoticed...

Iran only has 24 active MiG-29's it's not like they have 100's of them!

So clearly you don't know your country!

So you quote a baseless article from 2007 which says a deal will be signed in near futur? and that's your proof?!

 

[VEVAK]

So you quote a baseless article from 2007 which says a deal will be signed in near futur? and that's your proof?!

Believe what you like I DONT CARE!!!!

 

[mohsen]

Believe what you like I DONT CARE!!!!

NOOOO, please let me believe that childish piece of western propaganda, fitting an RD33 engine in an F5!!!

Certainly I don't believe the Russia which abandoned all of its military agreements with Iran, such as Shafaq fighter/trainer project and even S300 which was a defensive weapon, would upgrade any shit for Iran, IRAF has upgraded it's assets, through domestic capabilities or black market, I have zero doubt in that, but you better leave your habit of believing whatever b.s news which you find on the web.