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You do not have a monopoly over any religion or faith.
Well i dont wanno. Cheers Mate
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You do not have a monopoly over any religion or faith.
correct agree with you 100%!
HOWEVER, the basis of islam are on "leap of faith"!
none of us ever saw the prophet or his companions! we never saw gabriel or Allah either! YET our whole belief is on complete faith! now if we doubt the super natural then we doubt the prophet and eventually doubt our god Allah!
so either we start questioning everything even the book! you can't pick & choose and challenge what you like & what you dislike.
as for believing in the "super natural" well you can have a whole world of non believers in any faith.
Because every religion has had some element of super natural:
1)Moses split the sea
2) David twisted iron & made body armour
3)Solomon ruled every living thing including jins!
4)Jesus could cure leper
now please tell me if we sit down to question all these events in every religion then we will have no religion left!
as for us not understanding these "supernatural events"
well i am sure if someone in the 700A.D said the world was round people would have laughed at him. Or in the 1500s if we go back in time in a plane i am sure they would think we are "supernatural" beings!
so just because we don't understand something because we lack knowledge doesn't make things UNTRUE.
Sorry I disagree, Science and religion are mutually exclusive. However the conclusions that can be drawn from knowledge are not. for example, Science can explain how the Big Bang happened but not why.
And some of those "Why" questions are not legitimate questions either. Why do we have rainbows? Why is the color red Red? Why do we have two legs? Why do men have nipples?
Questions like these are just for canon fodder and have no base for any rational discussion either. Some questions are just not legitimate Questions and to fill that void religion comes into play and answers those dubious questions with further dubious answers like the rainbow being a Bow for Indra the God of lightning, rain and thunder in hindu mythology
God can split Moon but it cannot fix it in a perfect way
The sense of curosity in human being have led us to the advances and other developments we see in this world. Otherwise what was the differnce between an animal and human being? we could have simply fed ourseveles, slept, reproduced like sheep or cows. those curosity and asking those question have taken us to massive discorveries and understanding this world and ourselves.
You failed to understand the point I was making. There is a different between legitimate questions and dubious questions that serve no purpose except to fill a certain void.
Questions like Why do men have nipples and Why do we have rainbows are dubious questions which serve no purpose. What we can ask however is HOW are rainbows created and How men's nipples came into being. Do you see the difference?
What do Batteries run on or why do pigs have curly tails can only be answered by a religious person
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Yea even a stupid question is a question after all..!
-EmO GiRl said:Plus i hope this thread wont be closed because of some trolls
...According to the Zumurrud, the distance between Mecca and Jerusalem is not very great, and it is conceivable that a person could go from one of these cities to the other and back in one night, so the Prophet's presentation of his ability to describe Jerusalem as a miracle is a fraudulent trick (makhraq)....
So much for this "philosopher" "Mr.Rational Thinker",,,sparklingway said:The works of these philosophers were criticized by the much hailed ...
did Prophet anywhere said he was the ONLY one who could predict future!!!!... nops... Infact he told us that soothsayers do have means where they get knowledge of future,,,Even the Prophet's ability to predict the future (as in the case of the slaying of Ammar b. Yasir) is not regarded as a miracle, since it is claimed that any astrologer can do that.(152)
If he ment men-women equality then,, yeh yeh,, men can get pregnant, women can grow beard, & there's NO premenstrual-syndrome which 85% of women go thru everymonth whereby suffering emotional instability & memory loss.He also believed that all human beings were equal in their intellectual capacities as they were in all other things.
Ground realities r not that supportive for the logic of ur ideals unfortunately, conflict rather alliance is seen b/w clerics & leaders,,, ppl follow religion by their free-will & that is what makes cleric powerful,, not the other way round.Secondly, religion's popularity rested on the close alliance between clerics and political rulers
A man once herd of Prophet's fame & decided to pay a visit,,, he presumed it'd be a person dressed like a rajah & sitting high on the stage,, when he entered the mosque he asked where's the Muhammad I heard of so much,,, ppl pointed where he was,,, man said he looks just like ordinary man & he couldn't even distinguish him from the rest,,,,,,,, This was what early leaders of islam looked like,,, thousands followed them without getting impressed by any lavish attire as ur ideals have suggested.Thirdly, the lavish and imposing character of the attire of religious men contributed to the high regard in which they were held by common people
despite heavily human-modified bible, stories are still more co-herent than Mr.Philosopher's rational reasoning.Furthermore, he found that prophets' pronouncements and stories often contradicted those of other prophets. If their source was divine revelation as is claimed, their views would have been identical.
A dry seed is non-living with NO biochemical reactions taking place,,, A farmer sows it into ground & & when water imbibes into the seed biochemical reactions start & seed becomes a living being,,, it grows & reproduces,,, Those farmers have been doing since ages what Mr.Craig Venter is bragging about so much... So ur another attempt to prove that there's no GOD Almighty is licking the dust.
Craig Venter creates synthetic life form
did Prophet anywhere said he was the ONLY one who could predict future!!!!... nops... Infact he told us that soothsayers do have means where they get knowledge of future,,
He also believed that all human beings were equal in their intellectual capacities as they were in all other things.
If he ment men-women equality then,, yeh yeh,, men can get pregnant, women can grow beard, & there's NO premenstrual-syndrome which 85% of women go thru everymonth whereby suffering emotional instability & memory loss.