Whatever

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Which duddoo? The one to the right of the picture doesn't even know how to put on a mask properly let alone become a supreme leader .

O yaar,

There is only one Dudddooooo... and it is now going to become the Leader of the Rsistence... the Underground Narcooz!

 

[Mentee]

O yaar,

There is only one Dudddooooo... and it is now going to become the Leader of the Rsistence... the Underground Narcooz!

Bonjorno!

I say screw the narco bros what are we having apprehensions for? Guys been taking over businesses all over the place

If not for the immediate family only a clan guy gonna/would take charge of the enterprise, It is what it is.

Spaghetti

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Bonjorno!

I say screw the narco bros what are we having apprehensions for? Guys been taking over businesses all over the place

If not for the immediate family only a clan guy gonna/would take charge of the enterprise, It is what it is.

Spaghetti

The Narcooz have muscled into OurTerritory... Young Mentee!

And it is bad blood... Narcooza are finito.... we are moving in...

Duddoo is dangerous... Time to call Lucca Brazzi...

This time no Sleepin with da fish...

Send the HorseHead to the Establishment... willya!

Now hit it!!!

 

[Mentee]

The Narcooz have muscled into OurTerritory... Young Mentee!

And it is bad blood... Narcooza are finito.... we are moving in...

Duddoo is dangerous... Time to call Lucca Brazzi...

This time no Sleepin with da fish...

Send the HorseHead to the Establishment... willya!

Now hit it!!!

Does corona get the rich?

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Does corona get the rich?

If Corona becomes the Hitman on Pak's CriminalEnterprise then I would know that my prayers have a meaning...

Now regarding the HorseHead... please, make it DonkeyHead ..it will send the Stronger message to the concerned quarters...

I love horses...and DonkeyHead is the proper Symbol for the end of Khottaism...

DonkeyHead in the bed of the Establishment ... yes, I approve this message! Pictures of all Khottas on the DonkeyHead... NarcoLeague/FazoolMullahMaffia/PeePee/MQM/ANP... the lot!

 

[BHarwana]

@SIPRA @Verve @Path-Finder @BHarwana

If the KhooniVirus wasn't enough the ShowbaazVirus has returned to OurLand... thought he ran to Londonistan for 'treatment' ... and couldn't come back because of it...and now all of a sudden... why?

DandayWaliSarkar is coming!

PMLN is going away piece by piece everyone was leaving he came back to stop that.

 

[ghazi52]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=724504934701054

 

[StormBreaker]

Sounds good. Can you actually cook / make them yourself?


No. Giving him a title will only uplift the status of this forum btw.


IRA as in Irish Republican Army?

Actually, No !!

I prefer it from outside, by some local naan houses

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Mentee]

 

[Sine Nomine]

Slight addendum: I donot think Buddhism became a major force outside of the Magadhan districts before Ashoka....Since even Megasthenes failed to point out the presence of Buddhists

My take is that,it took hold in taxila due to it being a centre of learning beforehand.People over there must have taken it and started working on it citing them being intellectual and knowledge being their way of life.

sligtly off course but not much, I would assert that the broad stem of land between Chenab and Indus remained as much under the influence of Zoroastrianism as under the influence of Brahmanism between 1500 BCE to 350 BCE...even when Taxila was a hot bed of Brahmanism, Zoroastrianism held sway there...only beyond the Indus, proper Zoroastrian lands started...and only beyond the Chenab proper Brahmanical lands started...The trans-Indus region was always a trans-cultural transitional region between hard borders of the Indian world and Iranic world

When one crosses Bias river,while travelling upwards towards Peshawar one would witness winds of change,you would see people of all kinds pure Indic one's,Iranic one's and mixed race.Beyond Peshawar you would start seeing pure Iranic people,i have seen many who would make even goras look colored people.Bottom line is that,Pakistan sits on crossroads.Even today we enjoy same position.
Zoroastrianism influence was probably pushed beyoned Hari river long before we can safely describe.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

My take is that,it took hold in taxila due to it being a centre of learning beforehand.People over there must have taken it and started working on it citing them being intellectual and knowledge being their way of life.

When one crosses Bias river,while travelling upwards towards Peshawar one would witness winds of change,you would see people of all kinds pure Indic one's,Iranic one's and mixed race.Beyond Peshawar you would start seeing pure Iranic people,i have seen many who would make even goras look colored people.Bottom line is that,Pakistan sits on crossroads.Even today we enjoy same position.
Zoroastrianism influence was probably pushed beyoned Hari river long before we can safely describe.

You may be right in that....But you have to remember that Taxila was a centre of Brahmanism from the Indic point of view ...There was a certain level of pushback against Buddhism (and various other Shramana philosophies) from the Brahmans of Magadha during the time of Buddha itself...I donot think the Brahmans of Taxila would have taken to this new philosophy kindly since preponderance of Buddhism would have robbed them of state patronage and massive sacrifices...But its not too far out to think that the Dharma of the Buddha established itself in modern day
Taxila region during the time of Buddha itself...Who might have been the vector? Traders...and this is not without reason

Tapussa and Bahlika were traders from Balkh and some other North Western place who became Buddha's disciples during his lifetime...

Buddha had knowledge of the North-West, though vague but authentic knowledge ......Darius I had already transported the Greek population of Cyrenaica, in North Africa to Bactria by then as punishment...Buddha mentions the presence of Greeks in Assalayana Sutta in the North West (Darius I doing this thing somewhere around 520 BCE, traditionally Buddha was born in 563 BCE but modern Scholarship holds it to 480 BCE)


You should get hold of How the Brahmins won: From Alexander to the Guptas by Johannes bronkhorst...That book opened my eyes...The invasion of Alexander was nothing short of End of Days for the Brahmins of the indus Valley....Alexander massacred entire towns and the Greeks named the tribes vanquished along the Indus only by the name of their respective Brahmin clans...Brahmins were the prime instigators against Hellenic rule there...It is Alexander's invasion that forced the Brahmins to look eastward...Yuga Purana alludes to that fact .....later Indo-Scythians were also no less brutal to the Brahmins in the North West...it is this depopulation of Brahmins from the north West that lend bulk of Western punjab conducive to the efforts of Islamic preaching and Buddhism before that

Anyways that book shatter many notions about traditional version of religious History...That book is part of a trilogy by Bronkhorst

Greater Magadha
Buddhism in the shadow of Brahmanism
How the Brahmins won: from Alexander to the Guptas

Bronkhorst combined with Eaton's research on Islamification of Punjab provides the most accurate picture of the history of the North western plains...I have already uploaded Eaton's work...will do regarding Bronkhorst's work after I have read all three books (already finished G.Magadha and then straight skipped to How the Brahmins won) and can present a cogent summary


Regarding second part of your answer I broadly agree with you but will have to assert that band being slightly narrower...east of Ravi is hard Indic world even if you want to dissuade yourself asserting that east of chenab is hard Indic world...but anyways these are minor differences and I agree with the broadstroke...The borders of Partition are around 97-99 percent correct (even without taking Islam into consideration)

The Indian Pakistan border is no fluke...it somehow rides the grooves of destiny and has been doing so close 3,500 years....Mostly due to geography and the limits of military projection capability of different empires ...

Pakistan is inevitable with or without Islam...It is for people like me to convince other Indians that Pakistan has the right to exist even if it were to turn Sikh,Hindu,Buddhist,Zoroastrian,Taoist,Non-Muslim etc

It is for the enlightened people of Pakistan to understand that Pakistan has a glorious claim to nationhood even without resorting to Islamic triumphalism

@padamchen --->discussion has moved to much more friendly,academic environs and I made some comments regarding Zoroastrian military history which may be of interest to you

@Mangus Ortus Novem

@SIPRA

@Indus Pakistan

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

 

[padamchen]

You may be right in that....But you have to remember that Taxila was a centre of Brahmanism from the Indic point of view ...There was a certain level of pushback against Buddhism (and various other Shramana philosophies) from the Brahmans of Magadha during the time of Buddha itself...I donot think the Brahmans of Taxila would have taken to this new philosophy kindly since preponderance of Buddhism would have robbed them of state patronage and massive sacrifices...But its not too far out to think that the Dharma of the Buddha established itself in modern day
Taxila region during the time of Buddha itself...Who might have been the vector? Traders...and this is not without reason

Tapussa and Bahlika were traders from Balkh and some other North Western place who became Buddha's disciples during his lifetime...

Buddha had knowledge of the North-West, though vague but authentic knowledge ......Darius I had already transported the Greek population of Cyrenaica, in North Africa to Bactria by then as punishment...Buddha mentions the presence of Greeks in Assalayana Sutta in the North West (Darius I doing this thing somewhere around 520 BCE, traditionally Buddha was born in 563 BCE but modern Scholarship holds it to 480 BCE)


You should get hold of How the Brahmins won: From Alexander to the Guptas by Johannes bronkhorst...That book opened my eyes...The invasion of Alexander was nothing short of End of Days for the Brahmins of the indus Valley....Alexander massacred entire towns and the Greeks named the tribes vanquished along the Indus only by the name of their respective Brahmin clans...Brahmins were the prime instigators against Hellenic rule there...It is Alexander's invasion that forced the Brahmins to look eastward...Yuga Purana alludes to that fact .....later Indo-Scythians were also no less brutal to the Brahmins in the North West...it is this depopulation of Brahmins from the north West that lend bulk of Western punjab conducive to the efforts of Islamic preaching and Buddhism before that

Anyways that book shatter many notions about traditional version of religious History...That book is part of a trilogy by Bronkhorst

Greater Magadha
Buddhism in the shadow of Brahmanism
How the Brahmins won: from Alexander to the Guptas

Bronkhorst combined with Eaton's research on Islamification of Punjab provides the most accurate picture of the history of the North western plains...I have already uploaded Eaton's work...will do regarding Bronkhorst's work after I have read all three books (already finished G.Magadha and then straight skipped to How the Brahmins won) and can present a cogent summary


Regarding second part of your answer I broadly agree with you but will have to assert that band being slightly narrower...east of Ravi is hard Indic world even if you want to dissuade yourself asserting that east of chenab is hard Indic world...but anyways these are minor differences and I agree with the broadstroke...The borders of Partition are around 97-99 percent correct (even without taking Islam into consideration)

The Indian Pakistan border is no fluke...it somehow rides the grooves of destiny and has been doing so close 3,500 years....Mostly due to geography and the limits of military projection capability of different empires ...

Pakistan is inevitable with or without Islam...It is for people like me to convince other Indians that Pakistan has the right to exist even if it were to turn Sikh,Hindu,Buddhist,Zoroastrian,Taoist,Non-Muslim etc

It is for the enlightened people of Pakistan to understand that Pakistan has a glorious claim to nationhood even without resorting to Islamic triumphalism

@padamchen --->discussion has moved to much more friendly,academic environs and I made some comments regarding Zoroastrian military history which may be of interest to you

@Mangus Ortus Novem

@SIPRA

@Indus Pakistan

You, me and @Indus Pakistan all think alike on Pakistan.

Of course he is a racialist like I am, and in there he realises the need for a geographical construct over a dynamic political one thst ebbed and flowed over millennia.

Post the Aryan split, this region was much like the interface between oil and water.

You shake it up from time to time and the line breaks one way or the other.