Says someone whose entire posts were about the pros and cons .. mostly consa .. of a joint family system.
- Is she allowed her home with in her rights? absolutely, the religion says so, so who am I or anyone to question the right that Allah has afforded you. That clear enough for ya?
- With that out of the way, propose a solution to 50% of the population living in poverty? Is there a cost effective solution that can cater to these people's needs other than a joint family system? Afterall, you can't just leave around 90 million people, 60% of which qualify as 'young people' with virtually no solution. Joint family for them is the easy and the more logical way to go. Is that too difficult to understand? and yes I get it, your not against joint family systems, your for getting separated once the man has the financial power, but the counter contention to that is, most of the people (based on the literacy and poverty rates) will not be able to do that in their life time. A permanent joint family solution is probably their only option, that is unless, you have any alternative solution that you'd like to share?
- As far as 'parents can be visited' ... yeah sure they can, but like I said, what you've demanded is your right and ultimately (given he has the financial power) he has to take care of his wife, since she is his responsibility. However, with that he has a responsibility to his parents too, and there are verses and hadiths you can quote to that reflect the gravity of that responsibility. There are various medical conditions that require constant checks, in event of any mishap a quick reach to the hospital, add in the fact that at a very tender age, you've basically left them lonely. Your one decision, significantly made his life harder in terms of fulfilling his responsibility to both you and his parents. Do you think he'll not think about that every time he has to cancel on either one of you so that the responsibility of the other can be fulfilled? Do you think he won't think about your decision when he ultimately becomes the punching bag for your and his own families puns for not giving you both 'enough attention'.
Did I say or insinuate that it was un-islamic, I've just been asking for an alternate solution, from the proponents of the idea that the woman should live in a separate home and that living arrangement is better than that of a joint family for XYZ reasoning.
My contention is that, in many cases, it is financially not viable to have a separate accommodation (keeping in mind that around 50% of the population falls in to one dimension or the other of a scale measuring multi dimensional poverty) and that a husband can instead ensure that the rights of the wife be met in a joint family. Is that contention wrong ? If so, do you have an alternate solution in mind that you'd like to share?
“We never look beyond our assumptions and what's worse, we have given up trying to meet others; we just meet ourselves.”
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Muriel Barbery
Pakistan’s middle class consists of over 6.27 million people, according to Credit Suisse, a global financial services company.
In its Global Wealth Report 2015 released on Oct 13, Credit Suisse said Pakistan has the 18th largest middle class worldwide.
The study revealed that 14% of world adults constituted the middle class in 2015 and held 32% of world wealth. The share of middle-class adults in Pakistan’s total adult population of 111 million was 5.7% in 2015 as opposed to India’s 3% and Australia’s 66% in 2015.
Middle-class Pakistani adults constituted 0.9% of the worldwide middle-class population. The highest concentration of middle-class population in 2015 was in China (108.7 million), followed by the United States (91.8 million) and Japan (62 million).
According to Credit Suisse, total wealth in Pakistan amounted to $495 billion in 2015. Given that the figure stood at $170 billion in 2000, total wealth in Pakistan has increased at an annualised rate of 7.4% for the last 15 years.
Further to that cost of living in Pakistan is 62.76% lower than in United Kingdom (aggregate data for all cities, rent is not taken into account). Rent in Pakistan is 84.60% lower than in United Kingdom (average data for all cities).
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Sure if a person can't afford separate housing/flat then he should:
1) Marry someone whose prepared to settle for a permanent joint family decision.
2) Not Marry till he is able
Faith teaches Men to Marry and look after their wives if they can AFFORD to also.
Any Father or mother of a daughter will pose the question 'will you be able to look after her and support her?' Before giving her hand. You also chose to ignore I mentioned parents can be looked after if the guy has other siblings who are unmarried or perhaps married with their spouses living in the same household, in addition to them visiting often and playing their part too.
This question isn't just limited to people in Pakistan but a global and broader question. Arabic and Somalian culture is before giving hand of daughter they ensure the Guy HAS his own living space and sorted out a nest. Be it his own property or a flat. So this practice isn't just narrowed to Pakistanis.
Reducing this to just 'Pakistan' doesn't give a broader spectrum and cost of livings and expenditures in Pakistan as opposed to other Countries are inexpensive.
Don't deny female their rights.
@DESERT FIGHTER congrats bro
