What is Bangladesh doing to counter Indian interference?

[Iggy]

Bangladesh will always remain in India's shadow.

No one will be any ones shadows..every country has their own dignity..and they will not let others influence their country ..stop barking such disrespectful words

 

[Al-zakir]

This kind of thinking perpetuates hate, I think the only reason you hate India so much is because you feel inferior. Instead of trying to 'barricade' India, why don't you try cooperation for a change? isn't there enough death and destitution in South Asia already?

Look at what our neighbors to the north have accomplished,

8Ln08EokDLY[/media] - New High Speed Train From Beijing to Tianjin China

Wouldn't you love to see something like that in Bangladesh? have a look at their cities, roads, railway stations, don't you want that for Bangladesh?

WAKE UP!! Instead of fantasizing about an 'Islamic army', think about a prosperous and peaceful country, you think India will sit by idly and watch as your so called 'islamic army' tries to smother it?

There have been plenty of wars, try thinking a little differently, open up your little mind and stop 'hatin'. We need economic cooperation, the rest will follow.

All right! For a change I like your positive attitude. I am not against peace but it can only achieve if we mutually respect each other sovereignty. Bharat needs to understand that we are Muslim so it should not infuse money into anti Islamic element in Bd.

Respect us as who we are than peace is inevitable in SA.

 

[fallstuff]

This kind of thinking perpetuates hate, I think the only reason you hate India so much is because you feel inferior. Instead of trying to 'barricade' India, why don't you try cooperation for a change? isn't there enough death and destitution in South Asia already?

Look at what our neighbors to the north have accomplished,

8Ln08EokDLY[/media] - New High Speed Train From Beijing to Tianjin China

Wouldn't you love to see something like that in Bangladesh? have a look at their cities, roads, railway stations, don't you want that for Bangladesh?

WAKE UP!! Instead of fantasizing about an 'Islamic army', think about a prosperous and peaceful country, you think India will sit by idly and watch as your so called 'islamic army' tries to smother it?

There have been plenty of wars, try thinking a little differently, open up your little mind and stop 'hatin'. We need economic cooperation, the rest will follow.

Good post spitfighter


I continue to be amazed by the Chinese. Their progress is just simply phenomenal. If you look at the top 20 Chinese cities using Google Earth , it is just unbelievable what they have accomplished over the last ten years or so. Zoom down on Shanghai and think it was just a small town 20 years ago. Living in the USA , I know how long it takes just to add a ON/OFF RAMP to an Expressway, much less the Expressway itself. There are zoning issues, environmental issues, local community /politics issues , and these can take years before actual construction starts.

The Chinese were not even on the radar 10 years ago when it comes to Expressways, today they are the number two, after USA and ahead of Germany.

China,India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh are ancient Civilizations. Up until 18th century they were at least 49% of the world GDP (Source List of regions by past GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.) before they were invaded by the Europeans.


Its good to see these Civilizations are rising once again !!!

Source List of regions by past GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[rajeev]

All right! For a change I like your positive attitude. I am not against peace but it can only achieve if we mutually respect each other sovereignty. Bharat needs to understand that we are Muslim so it should not infuse money into anti Islamic element in Bd.

Respect us as who we are than peace is inevitable in SA.

Come on dude, we don't infuse any money into anti Islamic element anywhere! Remember, however you guys may claim your country to be - secular or Islamic; India is a secular country and some of my Indian brothers are Muslim and they are 170 million strong dude - a population bigger than entire population of Bangladesh.

The current Bangladesh is very friendly and hopefully all the small issues between the countries will be resolved in due time.

Hope your economy grows and so does ours!

 

[eastwatch]

Bangladesh will always remain in India's shadow.

India has tried in many ways to put in practice your 'shadow' theory, but has given up on that in favour of a new theory. Now, it is in favour of something like 'Co-prosperity' theory. It took a very long time for India to diagnose our traits that we are not to be bent on our knees. But, better late than never.

 

[ssheppard]

India has tried in many ways to put in practice your 'shadow' theory, but has given up on that in favour of a new theory. Now, it is in favour of something like 'Co-prosperity' theory. It took a very long time for India to diagnose our traits that we are not to be bent on our knees. But, better late than never.

Ew: I just have to say one thing...India is learning how to handle its foregin affairs.....and that learning comes with some degree of Hits and misses....Indo Bangladesh relation is no different....You implement something ...you fail...then you look for something new....and it is harder to implement changes in Countries....with hostilities against each other......I see Indobangla Relationship ...growing to be a mutually beneficial.....and not about Dominating each other.....

Both countries have made mistakes..and they will rectify their issues ...

 

[Contrarian]

India has tried in many ways to put in practice your 'shadow' theory, but has given up on that in favour of a new theory. Now, it is in favour of something like 'Co-prosperity' theory. It took a very long time for India to diagnose our traits that we are not to be bent on our knees. But, better late than never.

In this i will agree with you. Indian foreign policy and politicians are indeed maturing, they are also being more accountable. However this time around, there is a unique opportunity for India and BD to take their relationship forward. With BNP govt, BD tries to harm India by supporting insurgencies in India. With Awami League, both countries are trying to cooperate. By the end of the 5 years there should be visible progress.

 

[toxic_pus]

Indo-BD relationship soured with the assassination of Mujib. Inexperienced, and taken by surprise by such of events, India started viewing BD as proxy for Pakistan. New Delhi became concerned that this may undo all the hard work of creating BD, and took a series of wrong decisions to assert itself. This was, understandably, looked upon by the BD as Indian hegemonic attitude. Additionally, our inexplicably complicated bureaucracy and lack of transparency have resulted in too much mistrust with BD.

I won't say, India's assessment was entirely wrong. For example, BNP has traditionally been hostile to India, and is largely responsible for hate mongering against India. The current bonhomie is entirely because of Ms Hasina. The moment she goes out of power, this bonhomie will disappear.

Sad, but true.

 

[eastwatch]

I won't say, India's assessment was entirely wrong. For example, BNP has traditionally been hostile to India, and is largely responsible for hate mongering against India. The current bonhomie is entirely because of Ms Hasina. The moment she goes out of power, this bonhomie will disappear.

Sad, but true.

A truth yesterday may not be a truth tomorrow. A political Party cannot remain with an yesterday's old thinking when the thinking of the population has changed. So, in order to change its image, India must do things that our population can perceive as friendly and also non-hegemonic.

When India is regarded as a friendly country, no political Party can thrive in BD on anti-India rhetorics. The next 4 years is crucial for India. If people perceive that India is not disturbing us by taking many unilateral decisons that go against the interst of BD, then India-phobia will decrease. Because people will not buy that anymore.

If the country is free of tension our politics will turn into positive rhetorics. All the Parties will have to center themselves on economic development and welfare of the population.

I wish India to take advantage of the next 4-yr long AL govt in BD and successfully project a positive image of itself.

 

[Contrarian]

There has been significant progress already. BD driving out terrorists and India removing non tariff barriers and reduction of negative list.

By the time Hasina comes to Delhi, there would be a LOT of announcements i think.

 

[eastwatch]

Khaleda stresses political goodwill between Dhaka, Delhi
Staff Correspondent

The BNP chairperson, Khaleda Zia, on Thursday put stress on political goodwill in resolving the unsettled issues between Bangladesh and India and expected India to continue with such attitude.

We want good relations with India. If the unresolved issues between the two countries were settled, the relations would be strengthened and increased,・Khaleda told the outgoing Indian envoy, Pinak Ranjan Chakravarty, in her office at Gulshan in Dhaka.

Only political goodwill can settle the unresolved issues and we expect India would show such attitude,・Khaleda was quoted by her aide Shamsher Mobin Chowdhury.

Pinak paid a farewell visit to Khaleda and stayed there about 45 minutes. Khaleda wished his success at his new workplace.

BNP secretary general Khandker Delwar Hossain and Khaleda痴 aide Shamsher Mobin Chowdhury and Sabih Uddin Ahmed were present during the talks.

 

[piyarapakistani]

wat a joke that muslims are living safe in india.
1)hindu terrorists destroy babri mosque and after that kill thousends of muslims in bombay riots.
2)hindu terrorists kill 2000 muslims in gujrat.
3)indian army is killing innocent muslim kashmiris in indian occupied kashmir.

 

[Stumper]

wat a joke that muslims are living safe in india.
1)hindu terrorists destroy babri mosque and after that kill thousends of muslims in bombay riots.
2)hindu terrorists kill 2000 muslims in gujrat.
3)indian army is killing innocent muslim kashmiris in indian occupied kashmir.

Darn , is it really true sir? .... My my ..... we never knew this. Can you also share with us where exactly did you get this information .... as the cable connection has been cut off in India ... and world is unaware about this danger to the second largest muslim population in the world.

Thanks for your post.

 

[Skies]

Joke:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...sh-must-not-allow-indian-commandos-dhaka.html

After reading this thread, a question arise in me.

That is: who is BD's first enemy, India or Awami League govt.?

 

[Skies]

To all my BD and Indian friends....

Just go read the news again (in ) and THEN read the comments the pakistani, chinese and indian posters there are giving. There was not even a slight mentioning about bangladesh in that particular article....and the two countries to which it was directed ie. pakistan and china.... none of the people there are worried or tensed about the news. Some friends there even agree that Gen Lamba and Gen Kapoor was over-estimating Indian capability. Off course, they are capable, no doubt, but many posters critisized why they made it public and complained about the show-off nature of their confidence.

And most important thing, the posters there..... most of the indian, pakistani and chinese friends are all talking about brotherhood and peace in the sub-continent (off course there are few exceptions) and the last thing that anybody wants is a war.....you guys please refer to post no. 29 especially, which i found particularly touching, written by an indian.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/bangladesh-defence/india-d...rmy-chief.html

And please take time to read some comments made by the posters there.....i dont understand that when the people in the countries possibly going to be involved in war are not tensed or crying about it, why on earth are we BD members debating on this topic.....why do we always ASSUME/PREDICT that a war is happening between india and bangaldesh. Whilst the people from countries where the war is possible are talking about peace and no war. Please cant we just come to our senses and realize that something like that is not going to happen......

I know after this reply, still i will have posters storming at me...but people please think about it for a moment.... we ALWAYS everywhere add "IF" to a hypothetical threat/danger and start discussing about war, history, results.....if so, then why cant we just add that "IF" and say "...a war does not happen, hopefully our next generation will get a good world to breathe in......"

All the posters are openly welcomed to refute....but i am happy i cleared whats actually in my mind....

Peace....

Cheers!!!

Firstly: I think you missed one point in this thread: http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-...akistan-simultaneously-indian-army-chief.html . Here the Indian army chief who made this statement. Remember he is an army chief. So even he said it as a fun but he knows that well that his neighbors will not take it as a fun. And, no doubt, this statement did not said by him without thinking his country's capability. May be they have not that much capability but they are intended to achieve so. Another think is, a fun done by such person, really, reflexes his intention. Such a person cannot make fun without backup. And here the backup is either he has already the capability or intended to achieve the capability. He must know the consequence of the fun, as his neighbors will take it as a challenge, and then he have to answer if attacked in future either he has the capability or not. I think there is a possibility of another war between IN and PAK.

Secondly: I understand that u think like a peaceful man. We also need to think like that. But, sad, the reality is different.

Suppose India will never attack us but if they will continuously interfere here, if BSF always continue killing, if they try to take over some portions in the Bay of Bangle, if they create pressure to our govt to give them favors which may be bad for BD, if they want to prove us vulnerable nation by deploying their force in Dhaka, if the underestimate us always, if they want to stop water. So what will do BD then even they will not attack?

In 52 Pak govt wanted to impose Urdu in BD.
Then BD people rebelled against Pak govt.
Then Pak force fired and killed Rafiq, Borkat, Salam and so.
Then we had to declare war against Pak for their misrules and the real war began in later in 71.
There Pak did not attack us at first but attacked when we demonstrated against their misrules.

So if India wants to dominate us without attack then what will u do? If you could stand against Pak in 52 then why not against India in future in case they will try to dominate us? And there is a chance of war (to me it is only 5&#37 with India if they will continuously try to dominate us though they will never attack at first. So, it is not worthless to imagine a hypothetical war bet IN and BD at all. Suppose if BDR will fire against BSF at first for any unavoidable reason then there is a chance of war though it will not continue but we will have to lose many things in case we will not aware.