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What can Pakistan learn from Bangladesh?

Absolutely, thank you for adding the factor about female empowerment leading to lower fertility rates. It saddens me at times that Population Dynamics and Ecology aren't treated with the respect they deserve. You cannot call yourself a social scientist unless you can place your field in the lens of these two fields. I tried pointing out this to another user as well, that our problems are interconnected.

Well said Sir.

Cultural predilections are definitely hard factors and sometimes seem immutable.

But female education rates have contributed to lowering fertility rates (in addition to empowering women to work in factories) - that much can be confirmed for Bangladesh case. Fertility rates in Bangladesh are now hovering around 2.1 child per woman, which is almost the same as replacement rate. Which means population is NOT increasing more than say 1%. Is this where third world countries need to be? Absolutely.

Lower population makes a nation stronger, no doubt, and it has no conflict with teachings of Islam in Bangladesh.
 
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Learn from Bangladesh????

Nothing!!

When the Bengali finally face the consequences of their stupidity, we will be waiting with out "we told you so"
A bit like with the Indian Muslims!

Clocks ticking Bangladesh

100% True and some myopic bangladeshis are still not seeing that reality. And yes, those dollars would be of no use.

From a population dynamics POV the main difference between us was the treatment of our women. You can interpret this from a dogmatic / ideological POV but numbers do not lie. Bangladesh enabled their women to work rather than only marry young and have children, therefore, become assets rather than liabilities. That's what is needed because the unchecked population growth is our greatest problem. Moving around Pakistan there is a disturbing scene of one person earning and an entire household surviving on their money; however, despite that still reproducing like there's no tomorrow. That's a problem. Modern economies are best suited for smaller families and a balance between liabilities and assets.

My opinion is based off of hard empiricism rather than ideology, please, don't analyze everything through nationalistic or ideological lenses, they have their place but taking other paradigms is also helpful. Before taking any tag, i think it's important to be a realist. We don't need any aid to change ourselves. I think this change has to be internally aroused rather than forced on anyone.

Thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Bangladesh

This is what the women empowerment is,. according to Bangladeshi Dictionary.

Sorry but we are good without that kind of empowerment.
 
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Still rampant and existent. It has nothing to do with women's empowerment, obviously. When you write laws you've the power to add or remove points, it's not that we have to buy it from somewhere and have no control over it.
yeah lets keep our eyes open. Its not legal in Pakistan.
 
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Ok i'll leave this thread here. Not because i am wrong(imo) but because few persons don't like my views. Anyway have a good time. See you guys on some other thread.
 
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What can Pakistan learn from Bangladesh?

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Henry Kissinger, the secretary of state during the Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford administrations, ominously dubbed Bangladesh a basket case, and the moniker stuck, causing disappointment and dismay among Bangladeshis. In the 1970s, the derogatory appellation painted a dire picture of a country struggling with negative growth rates, dismal export potentials, empty coffers, and, to top it all off, the burden of meeting the needs of a population traumatised by a brutal independence movement. The future of Bangladesh, at the time, looked very bleak indeed.

Five decades later, Bangladesh has come out roaring. It has become one of the leading Asian economies and has, for over a decade, grown at a good clip. In fact, since 2011, Bangladesh’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) growth rate has been consistently over 6 %. In its latest report, the Asian Development Bank paints a promising picture of Bangladesh and puts it on a sure footing for achieving a growth rate of 8% in 2020, the highest in the region.

Due to the constant economic upheaval, the Bangladeshi economy will cast off the status of a least developed economy in less than five years and will join the list of developing economies. Bangladesh’s story of economic success is strewn with lessons on how to exploit resource endowments, not only to achieve economic growth, but also inculcate human development. That is why Bangladesh is higher on the human development index (HDI) than Pakistan.

It is somewhat ironic that it was Mahbubul Haq, a Pakistani economist, that developed the HDI along with Amartya Sen to assess the quality of life and standard of living of people within a country. Sen, a Nobel Laureate, called Haq an “outstanding economist and a visionary social thinker.” Haq believed that the policy outcomes that mattered the most were what a government did for its people so that they could lead a healthy and prosperous life. Taking a people-centric approach to judge the success of governmental policies, the HDI draws attention to three dimensions of people’s lives: education, health, and income.

During the last two decades, Bangladesh has made great strides with regards to improving the lives of its people. To get a sense of where it stands today, we will compare Bangladesh with Pakistan on some of the key indicators of HDI, knowing full well that such a comparison can generate controversy due to the long standing friction between the two countries.

When we look at the ranking of the two countries on the human development scale, Bangladesh is ahead on the 135th position as opposed to Pakistan’s 152nd. The average life expectancy in Bangladesh is also higher at 72.3 years in comparison to Pakistan’s 67.1 years whereas the mortality rate is also significantly lower in Bangladesh at 26.9 versus 61.2 in Pakistan. A child born in Bangladesh can expect to be in school longer than a child born in Pakistan at an average of 11.2 years versus 8.5 years while the mean years of schooling for females in Bangladesh is 5.3 years compared to 3.8 years in Pakistan. What is perhaps most surprising is that, according to the World Bank, Bangladesh now has a higher per capita Gross National Income than Pakistan, $1,750 versus $1,590 to be precise. Overall, Bangladeshis now enjoy a higher standard of living than their Pakistani counterparts.

Among the different developmental policies that Bangladesh implemented to improve the standard of living for its people, the two that stand out are the economic empowerment of women and the focus on infrastructural development. Comparatively, while both Pakistan and Bangladesh essentially exported their unemployment problems by sending people to work in the restrictive environment of the Middle East, Bangladesh also looked for ways to create employment opportunities internally for its labour force. It slowly and steadily expanded the textile sector to create employment opportunities, especially for women, who now form the backbone of the industry.

As a result, female labour now accounts for more than 90%of the workforce in the textile sector which currently employs over four million people. These jobs have not only improved the lives of families, but have also given women discretionary purchasing power and access to financial instruments.

Bangladesh has become a textile powerhouse, exporting apparel products and producing for retailers such as Zara, Gap, Uniqlo, Hugo Boss, H&M and other multinationals. A once fledgling industry has now been transformed into a $30 billion business which has established Bangladesh as the second largest exporter of garments and apparel products in the world after China. The experience and the network of relationships that its executives have developed along with the business prowess they have gained will be instrumental in moving Bangladesh towards the next phase of development which is the production and marketing of high value-added products.

Unfortunately, in the case of Pakistan, the data on human development looks bleak. Its story is one of lost opportunities. Once a beacon of development and modernity in South Asia, Pakistan’s economy has stagnated due to rampant corruption and mismanagement. Successive governments have failed to construct a growth-conducive economic model whereas a feudal mentality has curtailed the entrepreneurial spirit that propelled growth during the early years of Pakistan’s existence in the financial, educational, healthcare, aviation, and transportation sectors. Therefore, sooner rather than later, Pakistan will need to create conducive conditions in order achieve what Mahbub ul Haq valued – a good life for the general populace.

The author is Professor Emeritus of Marketing at Marquette University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA, and a Fulbright scholar. He has published extensively in business and marketing journals and has taught graduate and undergraduate level courses in North America, Europe, South America, and Asia.

https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/92997/bangladesh-not-a-basket-case-anymore/






Apart from how to suck india's undersized pee wee...

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Pakistan is NOT China and can NEVER become an economic superpower as China...but Pakistan is a sedated/slumbering Giant... and Pakistan's Time has come!

Brother, I disagree with this one point.

Pakistan in it's current form cannot achieve it, but an expanded/expansive Pakistan connecting with CARs (and Russia,) China, and Arabian Gulf will become a superpower.

Our destiny is in moving north. Our ideology has hit a hiccup in '71 but recovered and even benefitted.

As a new wholly Islamic republic, we should strive to achieve excellency in all matters of our lives. It will take time but with economic reforms and spirituality, Pakistan will bounce back stronger than ever.

As India collapses in on itself everyday and fractures, the major state holding Pakistan back will be gone.

We will see Pakistan flexing its muscles much more strongly (similar to Turkey) and working towards merger with Afghanistan (our destiny.)

From there, a new order must be established in the Muslim world. Pakistan must expand and our ideology of recovering Muslim greatness and unifying the Muslim world must move forward.
 
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It's a starting point to all things.

A poverty stricken nation is powerless.

Pakistanis are involved in coming up with so many excuses to explain why they are 3rd world after 72 years of independence and still have no stable fast growing economic foundation. They even had access to BD resources during 1947-1971 to boot!
I hope the current government in Pakistan has a different attitude as otherwise Pakistan will not have any chance of moving forward economically.

Food for thought - Pakistan is predicted to slide to world's 50th largest economy by 2034 whereas BD is predicted to rise to 24th.
 
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Pakistanis are involved in coming up with so many excuses to explain why they are 3rd world after 72 years of independence and still have no stable fast growing foundation. They even had access to BD resources during 1947-1971 to boot!
I hope the current government in Pakistan has a different attitude as otherwise Pakistan will not have any chance of moving forward economically.

I'm consistently disappointed by the attitude of some of these guys.

Regardless, I wish the nation well. (As one should as a fellow Muslim)

But goddamn man SMFH reading some of this ish.

As for Bangladesh.....sure it has some problems which is needs to address.

But overall, the BD of 2020 is doing a hell of a lot better than the BD of 1990.
 
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I'm consistently disappointed by the attitude of some of these guys.

Regardless, I wish the nation well. (As one should as a fellow Muslim)

But goddamn man SMFH reading some of this ish.

As for Bangladesh.....sure it has some problems which is needs to address.

But overall, the BD of 2020 is doing a hell of a lot better than the BD of 1990.

Just edited my previous post with extra information - just says it all about the trajectories of the two economies.
I sincerely hope that Pakistan does better if only for BD geopolitical interests in S Asia.
 
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