We can devastate India, our arsenals are not showpieces

[ito]

In case anyone noticed, this statement is factually accurate..and vice versa.

I agree with you, but again India doesn't have the first use policy. That itself gives Pakistan a huge advantage in using nuclear weapons.

I would take this threat seriously. Unless India has a credible ABM and Air force, no first use will not help India, but will make India very vulnerable.

And those surgical strikes? will they deliver sweets and flowers if not bomb?

Man, let us not compare a surgical strike with 'devastating' India. And there is never an official statement by India on surgical strike. What is discussed in Indian media is not GOI position.

 

[IceCold]

Man, let us not compare a surgical strike with 'devastating' India. And there is never an official statement by India on surgical strike. What is discussed in Indian media is not GOI position.

Are you that naive or pretending to be one? Any strike means declaration of war and than you cannot complain about enemy's response.
And there are plenty of official statements from India about keeping all options open including surgical strikes in Pakistan.
This is what your current minister said after a cross border raid in Myanmar

India will carry out military strikes at any 'place and time', says minister

Following a rare cross-border attack conducted by the Indian Army in Myanmar, Junior Minister for Information and Broadcasting Rajyavardhan Singh Rathore said that based on intelligence "we will carry out surgical strikes at the place and time of our own choosing".

"Western disturbances will also be equally dealt with," the information minister said during a press briefing on Wednesday when asked if attacks could be carried out on the western (Pakistan) border, according to a report published on IBNLive.

The statements came after the minister lauded the Indian Army and Air Force for their operation in Myanmar that killed 20 suspected militants on Tuesday.

"Our PM ordered hot pursuit in which two camps were completely annihilated. While the army carried out the strike, helicopters were on stand-by," he said.

Read: Indian troops hunt, kill militants ‘in Myanmar’

Rathore asserted that attacks on Indians are unacceptable and based on effective intelligence

The minister added that the operations were a message for all neighbours of India who harbour terror groups.

"Friendship and zero tolerance will go hand in hand. This is a beginning. India is strong. This message should go to everyone," he said.

The minister also hinted that the operation against Myanmar's northeast militants has altered India's strategy in dealing with such groups.

"I think it was the need of the hour as well, the entire nation wanted it and that's perhaps a reason why they voted a strong government at the Centre. It had become like a habit [for terrorists]. It is not like a 'kushti' match that if you go back into your area nobody will catch you. This message is very critical that we will strike you wherever you are," he said.

Rathore referred to the surgical strike inside Myanmar as an "unprecedented" and "extremely bold" step by the Indian government.

"Myanmar is a friendly nation and therefore there was complete cooperation, if the need required" Rathore said when asked whether the operation had support of the Myanmar government and army. The minister added that the operation was carried out by the Special Forces "entirely on their own."

India has long blamed top Pakistan for stoking a revolt in Muslim-majority Kashmir as well as giving material support to militants for attacks in other parts of India, including a bloody 2008 assault in the city of Mumbai.

Pakistan denies the accusation and says it is fighting militants.

Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) has long advocated a tough stance towards Pakistan including the option of hot pursuit of militants. Since coming to power Modi has sought to ease tension but ties remain fragile.

Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said last month that his Indian counterpart’s recent statement about sponsoring terrorism to counter terrorism had confirmed “our assertions of Indian involvement in terrorist activities on Pakistani soil”.

He had said the statement of Indian Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar was a blatant admission of sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan.

Read more: RAW instigating terrorism, says army

Last month, the military’s top brass accused the Indian intelligence agency RAW of supporting terrorism in Pakistan. RAW has often been blamed by law-enforcement agencies for being involved in subversive activities in Pakistan.

Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry had also said the Indian intelligence agency is involved in various terrorist activities across Pakistan.

Also read: RAW involved in terrorist activities across Pakistan: foreign secretary

Chaudhry added that the matter had been taken up "a number of times" at the highest level with India through diplomatic channels.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1187334

This is just one out of countless other threats made from across the border at official level from India and this started not only now but back in 2001 when Indian forces were mobilised against Pakistan, than again in 2008 when your planes violated our airspace and now. Heck you guys even started celebrating some fake encounters in Pakistani Kashmir. In such cases you cannot complain from Pakistan when we make a threat of our own.

 

[greenwood]

No special new version of SP indiaaaah.

 

[Archie]

Start using IWT to its full potential

That alone will cause enough turnmoil to keep the pak fauj busy

 

[Counterpunch]

He is known loose cannon among Pakistani circles itself.

Says Trump lover

 

[NirmalKrish]

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2016/09/we-can-devastate-india-our-arsenals-are-not-showpieces/

What should India do in light of Pakistan's defense Minister's threat to devastate India?

Some of my thoughts

1. Invest heavily in ABM to safe guard key cities such as Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore etc...
2. Invest in surveillance satellite systems and monitor every military activity of Pakistan’s army
3. Equip Armed personal with cutting edge technology including new rifles, night vision equipment etc..
4. Increase the Rafale order by another two squadron.
5. Set up F16s/F18s assembly lines as soon as possible and try to reach 42 squadron strength as soon as possible.

Most importantly of all build military capability to react at the shortest possible time with a unified command structure combining Air force, Navy and Army, and build the mindset to take on any military adventurism both from state and non state actors from across the border.

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @MilSpec @Joe Shearer @Skull and Bones
@nair @SrNair @RISING SUN
@dadeechi

Your thoughts will be valuable.

here is my thoughts

 

[SwAggeR]

Says Trump lover

Tell me he isn't. His latest episode with lady in your senate is well known.

 

[nair]

Basically we are in a Rhetoric Season....... All leaders are trying their best....... Everyone (in security and establishment) knows what weapons both the country possess and their capabilities......

 

[Counterpunch]

Tell me he isn't. His latest episode with lady in your senate is well known.

That was a joke mate. Glad you took it in the right spirit (almost)

On topic: I would focus on what he said right now. We all have a bad day at work or home and say things we wouldn't normally say. So, keeping political affiliations aside, I will give him full marks for the pertinent remarks. Remarks they are, but they speak very truthfully about the kind of sentiments our masses in general and armed forces in particular have for our enemies. This is simply what we are cheering about

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

I am still waiting for the "surgical Strikes" and "lessons" we were to be taught....

 

[third eye]

http://www.samaa.tv/pakistan/2016/09/we-can-devastate-india-our-arsenals-are-not-showpieces/

What should India do in light of Pakistan's defense Minister's threat to devastate India?

Some of my thoughts

1. Invest heavily in ABM to safe guard key cities such as Delhi, Mumbai, Bangalore etc...
2. Invest in surveillance satellite systems and monitor every military activity of Pakistan’s army
3. Equip Armed personal with cutting edge technology including new rifles, night vision equipment etc..
4. Increase the Rafale order by another two squadron.
5. Set up F16s/F18s assembly lines as soon as possible and try to reach 42 squadron strength as soon as possible.

Most importantly of all build military capability to react at the shortest possible time with a unified command structure combining Air force, Navy and Army, and build the mindset to take on any military adventurism both from state and non state actors from across the border.

@PARIKRAMA @Abingdonboy @MilSpec @Joe Shearer @Skull and Bones
@nair @SrNair @RISING SUN
@dadeechi

Your thoughts will be valuable.

In one word ..Nothing.

North Korea threatens S Korea,Japan & the world with nuclear strikes. Does the world scramble each time it does ?

The reason why no one presses panic buttons & goes into shopping sprees is that they are confident that the retaliation shall be swift , strong & devastating.

Such statements are made for two reasons, insecurity & to reassure themselves & it applies equally to N Korea & Pakistan. Both proteges of China.

 

[ito]

I am still waiting for the "surgical Strikes" and "lessons" we were to be taught....

Diplomatic isolation and economic costs are much better strategy to hurt Pakistan than Surgical Strikes.

 

[MadDog]

Diplomatic isolation and economic costs are much better strategy to hurt Pakistan than Surgical Strikes.

With the ongoing regional developments , Modi's endeavours to isolate Pak have failed. He failed to attack Pak, he failed to isolate Pak, he failed to unilaterally revoke IWT ....he took an extreme position and now cant handle its political implications, that is why a leader should never be an emotional religious zealot , anyways good for Pak,a delusional adversary is the best thing possible for us !!!

 

[nair]

Such statements are made for two reasons, insecurity & to reassure themselves & it applies equally to N Korea & Pakistan. Both proteges of China.

It is for domestic consumption.......

 

[ito]

With the ongoing regional developments , Modi's endeavours to isolate Pak have failed. He failed to attack Pak, he failed to isolate Pak, he failed to unilaterally revoke IWT ....he took an extreme position and now cant handle its political implications, that is why a leader should never be an emotional religious zealot , anyways good for Pak,a delusional adversary is the best thing possible for us !!!

He never said he will revoke IWT. He said he wants to maximize India's water share under the IWT.