Can India do what Russia did in Ukraine? -Gen. Tariq

[Joe Shearer]

indian thinking is VERY simple:

BAD: Pakistan, Pakistanis, Muslims, Islam.

GOOD: ANYTHING that is not Pakistani, Muslim or Islamic.

I am gobsmacked.

I could agree with this post. There are some lunatic fringe elements who think this way.

Your point.

 

[PakSarZameen47]

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Do you want Pushtuns to give up Pashto, Sindhis to Sindhi, Muhajirs to Urdu, Baluch to Brahvi?

Should Pushtuns stop attan, Sindhis Ho jamalo, Saraikis Jhumar?

I am yet to understand how and why any nationalism is bad for Pakistan. You tried to suppress Bangalis from their nationalism and see what happened after a tipping point came.

Our diversity is our strength, i don't claim to be a superior race or culture, neither do i believe that some other culture or race are superior to ours. Punjabi nationalism is not against any culture or race, neither it is against Pakistani nationalism.

Also we have derailed the thread enough. Lets open another thread for this.

Promoting culture is no problem but ethnic nationalism is a disease that will lead to our downfall

 

[Pajeet]

indian thinking is VERY simple:

BAD: Pakistan, Pakistanis, Muslims, Islam.

GOOD: ANYTHING that is not Pakistani, Muslim or Islamic.

No. Upgrade yourself to 2022.

You will be surprised how closely India's Infosys, TCS work with their Pakistani Counterparts.

For an Indian :

Good : Roti, Kapda , Makkan aur Bandwidth (
Bad : Poverty, Terrorism and Corruption

And, get your facts corrected :

If Muslims were Bad, Kalam would not have been our President, ( he is the most loved man ever. A teacher, a Scientist a Patriot. )
A Muslim would not be our Spy Chief
A Muslim would not be one of the Richest in India ( Premji )

Plus,

This is what an Indian Muslim Thinks : ( Remember, This man, Publicly/Openly/Regulaly > Badmouths Modi, BJP and RSS ) :

You must, refer and Hear this Each time you DARE TO SPEAK about an Indian Muslim .
This was Spoken sitting in Pakistan.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I am gobsmacked.

I could agree with this post. There are some lunatic fringe elements who think this way.

Your point.

Virtually ALL indians think like this. Some are just less open than others or more diplomatic. Hatred for Pakistan, Pakistanis and Islam is hard-wired into the indian dna. Even more so than the hatred between Palestinians and Israelis.

 

[Pajeet]

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[Joe Shearer]

Virtually ALL indians think like this. Some are just less open than others or more diplomatic. Hatred for Pakistan, Pakistanis and Islam is hard-wired into the indian dna. Even more so than the hatred between Palestinians and Israelis.

No. This is incorrect. At core, at root. I accept that there is a large number of such - even 1% of 1.2 billion is 12.0 million. But NOT virtually all Indians. I will not argue this point with you, as I know you have a vested interest in keeping on saying what you say.

No. Upgrade yourself to 2022.

You will be surprised how closely India's Infosys, TCS work with their Pakistani Counterparts.

For an Indian :

Good : Roti, Kapda , Makkan aur Bandwidth (
Bad : Poverty, Terrorism and Corruption

And, get your facts corrected :

If Muslims were Bad, Kalam would not have been our President, ( he is the most loved man ever. A teacher, a Scientist a Patriot. )
A Muslim would not be our Spy Chief
A Muslim would not be one of the Richest in India ( Premji )

Plus,

This is what an Indian Muslim Thinks : ( Remember, This man, Publicly/Openly/Regulaly > Badmouths Modi, BJP and RSS ) :

You must, refer and Hear this Each time you DARE TO SPEAK about an Indian Muslim .
This was Spoken sitting in Pakistan.

I particularly like Owaisi (Asaduddin, NOT Akbaruddin), and really seriously feel very hurt by the utterly personal and utterly unhinged attacks on him by some ill-informed Pakistanis.

As for Akbaruddin, he is a pain in the arse.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No. This is incorrect. At core, at root. I accept that there is a large number of such - even 1% of 1.2 billion is 12.0 million. But NOT virtually all Indians. I will not argue this point with you, as I know you have a vested interest in keeping on saying what you say.

indian government policy confirms this. All else is just meaningless conjecture. The hatred between Pakistanis and indians is racial and religious. It is also eternal, pervasive and all-encompassing.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Yet this build up by india has never been able to take on Pakistan on it's western border despite being h more than 7× bigger than Pakistan and having the full backing of the West and Russia.......................at least you indirectly admit that india can ONLY take on the Pakistan military when they are isolated by 3000 kms of enemy territory and the indians outnumber Pakistanis by a ratio of 20:1 and have bengali help/support...........

Hey, why not? Why should our soldiers' lives be at risk? Why can't we crush the enemy by sheer weight?

 

[Zhukov]

Not by a long shot in current situation. India is in no position to Launch any conventional military operation against Pakistan. Infact it might even loose more then its objectives to gain.
But if we dont fix our economy and society in coming decade. We will not be able to Finance our Defense needs and ensure our Internal security.
The trajectory is not good for us in my opinnion for coming decade.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Cruel is over 4 million indians dying from covid-19 and over 732 million indians defecating in the open...........:

Covid-19: India excess deaths cross four million, says study

Excess deaths - those above expected levels - are a measure of the overall impact of the pandemic.

www.bbc.co.uk

At 732 Million, India Tops List on Number of People Without Access to Toilets: Report

In addition to the increased risk of disease, the lack of sanitation facilities also makes women and girls susceptible to harassment and illiteracy.

www.google.co.uk

Do have ANY credible evidence for the above?..................if you are not lying then remember to post the links here........

You must be joking.

Look it up for yourself - the date of the declaration of Azad Kashmir, and the book by Maj. Gen. Akbar Khan (aka General Tariq), Raiders in Kashmir.
The book by William Brown - The Gilgit Rebellion; also Snedden for Gilgit.

Is it my fault that you depend for your information on Internet stuff and on magazine articles, and that you seem never to have read a single authority on the subjects you discuss - never, ever?
Again,

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hey, why not? Why should our soldiers' lives be at risk? Why can't we crush the enemy by sheer weight?

Why not trying it now? Why keep talking about what happened more than 50 years ago?...........You have to keep talking about what happened 50 years ago because india can NO LONGER take on Pakistan militarily?.............

Over 200 years ago, the americans/spanish had to pull out of Mexico and cede Mexico to the Mexicans. america/spanish lost territory............can the Mexicans now defeat america militarily............

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why not trying it now? Why keep talking about what happened more than 50 years ago?...........You have to keep talking about what happened 50 years ago because india can NO LONGER take on Pakistan militarily?.............

We don't want war. Unlike some others.

Over 200 years ago, the americans/spanish had to pull out of Mexico and cede Mexico to the Mexicans. america/spanish lost territory............can the Mexicans now defeat america militarily............

You forget that in this, economically, militarily, and in terms of credibility on the world stage, YOU are the Mexicans.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

You must be joking.

Look it up for yourself - the date of the declaration of Azad Kashmir, and the book by Maj. Gen. Akbar Khan (aka General Tariq), Raiders in Kashmir.
The book by William Brown - The Gilgit Rebellion; also Snedden for Gilgit.

Is it my fault that you depend for your information on Internet stuff and on magazine articles, and that you seem never to have read a single authority on the subjects you discuss - never, ever?
Again,

As YOU are the one making the claims, it is YOUR responsibility to provide the evidence, not mine's. Otherwise like all other indians, you are simply spreading FAKE news from the world's biggest FAKE NEWS factory AKA the indian media...........:

EU NGO report uncovers Indian disinformation campaign

EU DisinfoLab’s report a ‘deep dive into a 15-year operation targeting the EU and UN to serve Indian interests’.

www.aljazeera.com

Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe'

Fake sites and groups lobbying for India influenced decision makers in Europe, researchers say.

www.bbc.co.uk

We don't want war. Unlike some others.


You forget that in this, economically, militarily, and in terms of credibility on the world stage, YOU are the Mexicans.

You sure you sanghis don't want war or is it that you are not capable of it?..........

Mexico is STILL many times more richer, powerful, advanced and successful than india...........Mexico doesn't contain 40% of the ENTIRE earth's most severely malnourished and extreme poor. Neither did 4 million Mexicans die from covid-19 like they did in india..........

PS You honestly believe that india has the same power, prestige and credibility of america???????????...........................keep going!!........

 

[Joe Shearer]

As YOU are the one making the claims, it is YOUR responsibility to provide the evidence, not mine's. Otherwise like all other indians, you are simply spreading FAKE news from the world's biggest FAKE NEWS factory AKA the indian media.

LOL.

None of these sources is Indian media. EVERY one a foreign authority. I can't read for you, and how do you expect me to reproduce the contents of a book for you? You have to read it; take an analgesic for the headache.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

LOL.

None of these sources is Indian media. EVERY one a foreign authority. I can't read for you, and how do you expect me to reproduce the contents of a book for you? You have to read it; take an analgesic for the headache.

Then post the links to the evidence that EVERY one is a foreign authority as you CLAIM, IF you are not lying.

Of course you can't post the links to the evidence here because it's probably not true. Claiming that the sources are not indian yet providing NO links to the evidence proves my point. Like all indians, you are prone to disinformation, manipulation and severe propaganda. There is a reason why the indian media is the BIGGEST FAKE NEWS factory in the world. You just confirmed it:

Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe'

Fake sites and groups lobbying for India influenced decision makers in Europe, researchers say.

www.bbc.co.uk

EU NGO report uncovers Indian disinformation campaign

EU DisinfoLab’s report a ‘deep dive into a 15-year operation targeting the EU and UN to serve Indian interests’.

www.aljazeera.com

PS I'm looking for facts and evidence. Not yours or anyone else's opinions.