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War rules in ancient India, world''s best

No rules in war, there has been times when enemies took advantage of these " civilised, humane and ethical " practices against the Hindus. Marathas were very smart.

Maratha's too were civilized,humane and ethical too.

The problem was,the concept of statecraft not followed.

Remember when Chanakya Neeti/Arthashastra was present,we were able to hold off the Huns,Greeks,Persians etc.

Later when it disappered in 12th century ,from then we 500 years of foreign rule.
 
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Maratha's too were civilized,humane and ethical too.

The problem was,the concept of statecraft not followed.

Remember when Chanakya Neeti/Arthashastra was present,we were able to hold off the Huns,Greeks,Persians etc.

Later when it disappered in 12th century ,from then we 500 years of foreign rule.

No even before the 12th century Central Asians, Greeks, etc penetrated India. When India was unifed under Guptas(until they were weakened), Mauryans, Mughals, Palas, etc no one dared to invade.

When kingdoms are as divided as this, its easy to pick them a part one by one...

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But if you are like the Guptas,Palas,Mauryans you would think twice.

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Look what happens when you practice these rules like no striking after sunset..

First battle of Tarain

In 1191, Ghauri, leading an army of 120,000 men, invaded India through the Khyber Pass and was successful in reaching Punjab. Ghauri captured a fortress, either at Sirhind or Bathinda in present-day Punjab state on the northwestern frontier of Prithvīrāj Chauhān's kingdom. Prithviraj's 200,000 strong army led by his vassal prince Govinda-Raja of Delhi, rushed to the defense of the frontier, and the two armies met at the town of Tarain, near Thanesar in present-day Haryana, approximately 150 kilometres north of Delhi. Ghauri's army had been divided into three flanks: left, right and centre with Ghauri himself, on horseback, leading the centre flank. In addition to being almost twice in number, the Hindu Rajput army had another advantage: elephant cavalry comprising of 300 elephants whereas Ghauri's army had no elephants. Many Turk soldiers in Ghauri's army had not even seen elephants before. According to urban myth in contemporary India, the armies clashed first with the charge of the Rajput cavalry. Ghauri's horse cavalry was unable to hold its own against Prithviraj's elephant cavalry, resulted in the defeat of Ghauri's left and right flanks. Two regiments of the Muslim army with Ghauri attacked the center with a body of soldiers; where Ghauri met Govinda-Raja in personal combat. Govinda-Raja, mounted on an elephant, lost his front teeth to Ghauri's lance. As the battle continued, the Ghauri army, exhausted, shorn of water, and unfamiliar with the scale of its opponent, retreated. Ghauri was himself wounded in the battle and was rescued by his Turkic slave, Qutb-ud-din Aibak, who went on to become first ruler of the Delhi Sultanate. Ghauri's defeated army retreated to Lahore and, thereafter, returned to Ghazni. Prithvi Raj ignored the advice of his advisers and did not pursue the retreating army, which was a decision he later regretted.

Second battle of Tarain

In 1192, Ghauri re-assembled his army of 120,000 men and returned to challenge Prithviraj at the Second Battle of Tarain. When he reached Lahore, he sent his envoy to Prithviraj Chauhan to demand his surrender but Prithviraj Chauhan refused to comply. Prithviraj Chauhan then issued a fervent appeal to his fellow Rajput rulers and aristocracy to come to his aid against Ghauri.
Prithviraj assembled an army with the aid of Rajput rulers and aristocrats, according to Firishta, it consisted of 1,00 elephants, 1,000 horsemen and infantry.Some historians believe these figures may be exaggerated. The army proceeded to meet Ghauri in Tarain where Prithviraj a year before he had inflicted defeat on his adversary, confident of defeating him again. Muhammad Ghauri delivered an ultimatum to Pritviraj that he convert to Islam or be defeated. Prithviraj countered with an offer that Muhammad consider a truce and Ghauri will be allowed to retreat with his army. His terms not met, Ghauri decided to attack.
Ghauri divided his troops into 5 parts and attacked the Rajput armies in the early morning hours sending waves of mounted archers to attack the Rajput forces, but retreated as the Rajput elephant phalanx advanced. Ghauri deployed four parts to attack the Rajputs on four sides keeping a fifth part of his army in reserve. Khande Rao (General of Prithviraj), was killed. The enthusiasm of Prithviraj also dampened against these reverses. Knowing that Rajputs do not fight after sunset and before dawn, Ghauri orchestrated a surprise attack of 120,000 heavily-armored army to the center of the resting Rajput army, which collapsed into confusion, The Rajput Army was taken by surprise, thereby conceding victory

They tortured and executed Prithviraj.
 
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Self-defence
Hindus believe that it is right to use force in self-defence:

May your weapons be strong to drive away the attackers,
may your arms be powerful enough to check the foes,
let your army be glorious, not the evil-doer.

Rig Veda 1-39:2

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The conduct of war
The Rig Veda sets down the rules of war at 6-75:15, and says that a warrior will go to hell if he breaks any of them.

•do not poison the tip of your arrow
•do not attack the sick or old
•do not attack a child or a woman
•do not attack from behind
 
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Now I can clearly see the Indians who follow such stupid rules in the Rig Veda were superior in moral values but undoubtedly lacked the mental capacity to realize that the world we live is not ready to follow such acts, nor will it ever be! On the plus side, I see Kerala was a stronghold till the very end when the British arrived. So proud of the people of Kerala....true warriors in every sense.
 
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Now I can clearly see the Indians who follow such stupid rules in the Rig Veda were superior in moral values but undoubtedly lacked the mental capacity to realize that the world we live is not ready to follow such acts, nor will it ever be! On the plus side, I see Kerala was a stronghold till the very end when the British arrived. So proud of the people of Kerala....true warriors in every sense.


It was such passive thinking that influenced Gandhi and Martin Luther King
 
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No even before the 12th century Central Asians, Greeks, etc penetrated India. When India was unifed under Guptas(until they were weakened), Mauryans, Mughals, Palas, etc no one dared to invade.

When kingdoms are as divided as this, its easy to pick them a part one by one...

300px-India_600ad_v1.jpg


But if you are like the Guptas,Palas,Mauryans you would think twice.

Mauryan_empire_trade_en.jpg


20100710203009!Gupta_Empire_320_-_600_ad.PNG


Devapala_s.jpg


ts

I have noticed that Tamilnadu and Kerala have never became parts of any Indian empires in the history. Not even during greatest Indian empire of Ashoka!
 
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Yeah but it only succeeded because the world suffered world wars and the world got smaller as technology allowed greater connectivity. War is inevitable, it is human nature. We have advanced to such a high degree but is it sustainable? i doubt it, as problems grow and corporations get greedier, war will become a useful instrument. We can already see this today.
 
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Yeah but it only succeeded because the world suffered world wars and the world got smaller as technology allowed greater connectivity. War is inevitable, it is human nature. We have advanced to such a high degree but is it sustainable? i doubt it, as problems grow and corporations get greedier, war will become a useful instrument. We can already see this today.


That is Bush and Sarah Palin type thinking no wonder USA is te most hated country in the world
 
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I was referring to fighting foreign powers with that kind of naive attitude.

Gandhi was not naive he never said not to fight he supported Indian soldiers fighting in WW2 aganist Hitler because he thought it was a battle of good vs evil
 
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