Walton and ACI set to enter semiconductor manufacturing business

[LakeHawk180]

This is really inspiring to see. Here’s to a bright future for all of us. I’m hopeful someday we will see India and Bangladesh pursuing this goal as one. Perhaps we already are.

 

[nahtanbob]

What are you trying to say? Do you mind explaining why Taiwan and Korea are semiconductor giants after starting from zero.

No reason why BD or any other country cant make it. That is, if you dont believe only a few chosen countries can do this and that.

I explained the reasons
1. equipment from USA
2. thousands of PhDs in engineering (not from local college but from top American universities)
3. huge capital investments

you can try but the odds are stacked against you

It wouldn't be because India failed at it - would it?

India never tried on a serious basis

India's semiconductor journey: The new kid on the block

There is cautious optimism among industry watchers that the latest attempt to right some of these past wrongs will buck the trend and find success

www.deccanherald.com

most of the companies mentioned in this article are joint ventures with global players

You missed out logistics infrastructure

assume the logistic problems can be solved ... they are stringent. I doubt some of the dodos on this forum have any clue

 

[Black_cats]

I guess idiots don’t know the difference between home appliances and consumer electronics.

Home appliance market set to grow to $10bn

The market will grow at an average annual rate of 17% over the ongoing decade, estimates UCB Asset Management

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Idiots will always remain idiot.

Indian appliance and consumer electronics (ACE) market reached Rs. 76,400 crore (US$ 10.93 billion) in 2019. Appliances and consumer electronics industry is expected to double to reach Rs. 1.48 lakh crore (US$ 21.18 billion) by 2025.

Indian Consumer Durables Presentation | IBEF

consumer durables in india, consumer durables sector, FDI, foreign direct investment, demand for consumer durables

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[nahtanbob]

Electronics market in India: US$71,180.00m

Consumer Electronics - India | Statista Market Forecast

India: In 2025, the revenue in the Consumer Electronics market in India amounts to INR US$72.0bn. Definition: Consumer electronics refers to a range of electronic devices, appliances, and gadgets designed for everyday use by individuals.

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Electronics market in Bangladesh: US$9,864.00m

Consumer Electronics - Bangladesh | Market Forecast

Bangladesh: The revenue generated in the Consumer Electronics market in Bangladesh is estimated to be US$10.4bn in 2025. Definition: Consumer electronics refers to a range of electronic devices, appliances, and gadgets designed for everyday use by individuals.

www.statista.com

The industry is expected to grow at a rate of 15% per annum and reach around USD 12 billion by 2025. The size of the consumer electronics market was estimated to be around USD 2.4billion in 2020 and it is expected to reach USD 10 billion by 2030.

BIDA - Electronics

bida.gov.bd

@Nilgiri please put your shit somewhere else.

Why restrict to consumer electronics ? computers, telecommunications, industrial electronics, defense electronics, avionics all require semiconductors

 

[UKBengali]

It is very expensive to set up the foundries. You need some seriously skilled people to work in this profession even for licenseed production.

Yes but you need to start somewhere.

10 years ago no-one thought that Walton could sell LCD tvs in Europe but it is happening now.

Let the butthurt continue here for Indians.

 

[Black Tornado]

Yes but you need to start somewhere.

10 years ago no-one thought that Walton could sell LCD tvs in Europe but it is happening now.

Let the burthurt continue here for Indians.

How many LCD TVs do they sell in Europe thats causing “butthurt” among Indians btw?

 

[nahtanbob]

How many LCD TVs do they sell in Europe thats causing “butthurt” among Indians btw?

LCD TV sales in Western Europe 2008-2016 | Statista

This statistic shows the sales of LCD TVs in Western Europe from 2008 to 2016.

www.statista.com

Samsung tops global TV market for 16th straight year

Followed by LG, Sony, TCL and Hisense

www.flatpanelshd.com

 

[jamahir]

semiconductor manufacturing has the following characteristics
1. highly skilled work force

2. capital intensive
Capital can be raised. You have to ask yourself if it is best use of capital

3. requires good relationships with USA and EU countries who supply the equipment for semiconductor manufacturing
You can quit farting about relationship with China

4. not many jobs
You are getting a few thousand jobs for billions in investments

About no. 3, it would depend on the type of the material used to fabricate the semiconductor / microchip / microprocessor. There is interest in alternate methods to achieve microprocessors and other semiconductors using materials and methods such as miniaturized vacuum tube, diamond-based electronics and graphene-based electronics. So Bangladesh should first decide upon the method and material of achieving semiconductors and then set up the fabrication plant and the manufacturing machinery need not involve interaction with the USA and EU at all. @Bilal9 @AmiEktaKharapChele @Skull and Bones

HAHA. When did you turn a Joker?

INDIA electronics exports last year were over $15 billion with an total market of $140 billion per annum.

LUNGI land total exports are about $25 million and with a market of $1.5 billion.

I mean how stupid can you be?

Ah cute. CHADDI Stiching lungis will teach cough behavior. GTFO.

What kind of electronics does India manufacture ?

 

[Wergeland]

I explained the reasons
1. equipment from USA
2. thousands of PhDs in engineering (not from local college but from top American universities)
3. huge capital investments

you can try but the odds are stacked against you


India never tried on a serious basis

India's semiconductor journey: The new kid on the block

There is cautious optimism among industry watchers that the latest attempt to right some of these past wrongs will buck the trend and find success

www.deccanherald.com

most of the companies mentioned in this article are joint ventures with global players


assume the logistic problems can be solved ... they are stringent. I doubt some of the dodos on this forum have any clue

And why would any of your points be impossible to achieve? I think youre not understanding my question.

No. You dont have to attract thousands of US Uni PHD graduates. Thats a gross exaggeration.

You simply begin small and build up capacity in every arena with the right tempo.

 

[nahtanbob]

And why would any of your points be impossible to achieve? I think youre not understanding my question.

No. You dont have to attract thousands of US Uni PHD graduates. Thats a gross exaggeration.

You simply begin small and build up capacity in every arena with the right tempo.

USA is not selling equipment to countries that are not allies. You can be farting around balance with China, Russia etc

You need people with highly advanced degrees to design and fabricate semiconductors. If you do not think so that is fine. That is
one thing Taiwan and South Korea have that Bangladesh does not have

You can start small and see where things go. It is the only option for Bangladesh. Unfortunately semiconductor industry is one of scale

TSMC capital budget is $44 billion. I am not sure you can even comprehend the magnitude of the problem here

 

[jamahir]

You need people with highly advanced degrees to design

There is no need to have "highly advanced degrees" to design operating systems and microprocessors. Trust me. Though the designer will require engineers who may or may not have degrees.

 

[Wergeland]

USA is not selling equipment to countries that are not allies. You can be farting around balance with China, Russia etc

You need people with highly advanced degrees to design and fabricate semiconductors. If you do not think so that is fine. That is
one thing Taiwan and South Korea have that Bangladesh does not have

You can start small and see where things go. It is the only option for Bangladesh. Unfortunately semiconductor industry is one of scale

TSMC capital budget is $44 billion. I am not sure you can even comprehend the magnitude of the problem here

You arent bringing any thing to the table mate.
So stop wasting our time.

 

[nahtanbob]

There is no need to have "highly advanced degrees" to design operating systems and microprocessors. Trust me. Though the designer will require engineers who may or may not have degrees.

start a company and do it for yourself

 

[Indos]

Chip design is not something only can be done by Western university Phd, as I have cousin working as gov researcher in electronics ( Education is in Indonesia until Master Degree ), he said the most difficult thing to do in entering semiconductor manufacturing business is more on getting economic of scale to make it profitable business and yes it needs huge capital.

Indonesia has industry in semi conductor but more into assembling rather than real manufacturer

 

[nahtanbob]

Chip design is not something only can be done by Western university Phd, as I have cousin working as gov researcher in electronics ( Education is in Indonesia until Master Degree ), he said the most difficult thing to do in entering semiconductor manufacturing business is more on getting economic of scale to make it profitable business and yes it needs huge capital.

Indonesia has industry in semi conductor but more into assembling rather than real manufacturer

Marvell Semiconductor in USA was founded by this gentleman from Indonesia

Sehat Sutardja - Wikipedia

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