Vietnam first metro to operate commercially by year-end (built by China)

[Viva_Viet]

Stop lying. I did not said that


You native Indonesian cannot achieve anything in maths and natural science.

U did not ?? Haha, I just dont wanna waste my time to find that comment. U said something like " Mao is great, CN is lucky to have Mao. Mao continue the U shaped claim showing that hes Genius blah blah ...".

I will find that comment for u when I have time.

 

[艹艹艹]

good for vietnam

 

[cochine]

What evidence do you have that @Song Hong is not Vietnamese? I see absolutely nothing to indicate this. Just because he holds a relatively favorable opinion of China means he is not Vietnamese? Hopefully this is not the logic you operate by because it is stupid beyond belief.

Its reported on this forum that his name is Lux De Varitas was banned.

 

[Viva_Viet]

I can put inverted commas "" over fake-viet if it makes you feel any better.

"fake-viet"...happy? If its disgusting to you, so be it....no accounting for personal tastes. I have mine, you have yours.

Its not some casual accusation, its simple description of his sustained behaviour here....willing to throw lot of his countrymen in the dirt to praise China first thing even..not even attempt a middle ground....it is no one-off here in this thread alone....he or she has earned this over much more.

Then he/she takes CCP bot position on every other non-Vietnam issue first thing like a loyal footstool.

So for simplicity sake, fake-viet will have to do....just like fake-indo for the ones from INA that engage in the same.

Your flagged country has to be first, its really that simple to be credible to display the flags in an account. Otherwise you are simply some kind of fake or poser (or worse).

The lackey toady footstool crap is super super cringey. If its gross and yuck to call it out...its your opinion.

No matter how many "fake Viet" here for supporting CN, 2023 chaos will still happen as US will try its best to make CN collapse, so they can sell billions $$ of weapons to CN rebels .

CN "help" US destroy Soviet, then now they r the next target

 

[Viva_Viet]

What evidence do you have that @Song Hong is not Vietnamese? I see absolutely nothing to indicate this. Just because he holds a relatively favorable opinion of China means he is not Vietnamese? Hopefully this is not the logic you operate by because it is stupid beyond belief.

According to VN law, Spratly and Paracel islands belong to VN. Any Vnese against it is traitor and face with heavy fine.

He wish Mao could take all Spratly, thats why hes not Vnese or Simply a traitor based on VN law.

 

[Journeyman]

According to VN law, Spratly and Paracel islands belong to VN. Any Vnese against it is traitor and face with heavy fine.

He wish Mao could take all Spratly, thats why hes not Vnese or Simply a traitor based on VN law.

Any license plates in Viet Nam with the map of Viet Nam but don't have the Paracels and Spratly islands as part of the map will be PUNISHED, enough said

 

[Indos]

Stop lying. I did not said that


You native Indonesian cannot achieve anything in maths and natural science.

Japan remote sensing research is lead by Native Indonesian guy (Professor Josaphat Tetuko)

http://www.jmrsl.jp/

Previously we also have BJ Habibie that make huge contribution to Aviation Industry.

And he is still an Indonesian citizen

 

[Viva_Viet]

Any license plates in Viet Nam with the map of Viet Nam but don't have the Paracels and Spratly islands as part of the map will be PUNISHED, enough said

Thats why there is No Vnese support CN on Facebook. Cos the police have the right to arrest any Vnese supporting CN over Paracel and Spratly islands.

But we can see abt 4 "Viet " support CN in everything . Of course they never show us their Facebook accounts cos they r not Vnese or Simply traitors that against VN law

Btw, I found his comment
@Nilgiri @Indos just mark that hes not Vnese

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Imagine if Mao is able to take Spratly. Then China will not have today's problem.

Mao generation has sacrifice and settle problems for children, benefiting them for thousands of years.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-intervention-in-north-korea.662591/page-2#post-12259646

 

[Song Hong]

I never support China claims on Spratly.

The one who did so was Uncle Ho Chi Minh, PM Phan Van Dong and the rest of his team.

Vietnam could have peace with China on SCS and elsewhere, but Le Duan and later Nguyen Tan Dung destroyed the friendship.

We can open another thread on this.

I prefer not to air our dirty linen. Later Vietnam lose face.

Thats why there is No Vnese support CN on Facebook. Cos the police have the right to arrest any Vnese supporting CN over Paracel and Spratly islands.

But we can see abt 4 "Viet " support CN in everything . Of course they never show us their Facebook accounts cos they r not Vnese or Simply traitors that against VN law

Btw, I found his comment
@Nilgiri @Indos just mark that hes not Vnese

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Imagine if Mao is able to take Spratly. Then China will not have today's problem.

Mao generation has sacrifice and settle problems for children, benefiting them for thousands of years.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-intervention-in-north-korea.662591/page-2#post-12259646

 

[Viva_Viet]

I never support China claims on Spratly.

The one who did so was Uncle Ho Chi Minh, PM Phan Van Dong and the rest of his team.

Vietnam could have peace with China on SCS and elsewhere, but Le Duan and later Nguyen Tan Dung destroyed the friendship.

We can open another thread on this.

I prefer not to air our dirty linen. Later Vietnam lose face.

I dont have time for keep talking nonsense. If u think u r right, then just post "Imagine if Mao is able to take Spratly" on ur Facebook and u can talk with police if its against VN law or not.

 

[Figaro]

According to VN law, Spratly and Paracel islands belong to VN. Any Vnese against it is traitor and face with heavy fine.

He wish Mao could take all Spratly, thats why hes not Vnese or Simply a traitor based on VN law.

Quote where he said this ... otherwise you are lying.

 

[Song Hong]

PM Phan Van Dong, the closest aide of Uncle Ho Chi Minh infer Spratly and Paracel belongs to China.

Unfortunately Le Duan reverse it.

Most Vietnamese do not know the history.

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China has produced a letter written by North Vietnam’s former Prime Minister Pham Van Dong in 1958 as proof that it holds sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly islands;

I dont have time for keep talking nonsense. If u think u r right, then just post "Imagine if Mao is able to take Spratly" on ur Facebook and u can talk with police if its against VN law or not.

 

[cochine]

PM Phan Van Dong, the closest aide of Uncle Ho Chi Minh infer Spratly and Paracel belongs to China.

Unfortunately Le Duan reverse it.

Most Vietnamese do not know the history.

**********
China has produced a letter written by North Vietnam’s former Prime Minister Pham Van Dong in 1958 as proof that it holds sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly islands;

You are lying same what other Chinese did on this forum about Letter of Pham Van Dong.

1954 China and North Vietnam signed in to Geneva daccords. North Vietnam territory is limited at 17th parallel. Pracel and Spratly islands is territory of South Vietnam.

The letter said only about 12 miles coastline related to North Vietnam and China. No word about Paracel and Spratly. Dirty Chinese can lying and made the torsitions on the letter only.

 

[Song Hong]

Even Vietnam MSM said that Pham Van Dong ( = Ho Chi Minh and whole team) did agree that Spratly and Paracel belongs to China.

But Vietnam MSM also claims that what Pham Van Dong previously said is non of our (current GoV) business today. Today GoV stance is Spratly and Paracel belong to Vietnam.


************

China has produced a letter written by North Vietnam’s former Prime Minister Pham Van Dong in 1958 as proof that it holds sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly islands; experts agree, however, that the late PM had no legal authority to do so.

Tensions recently escalated between Beijing and Hanoi after the former positioned a mobile, deep-water drilling rig in waters off the Paracel Islands on May 2.

The Hoang Sa archipelago (or the Xisha islands, as China calls them) was seized in 1974 during a bloody Chinese naval assault that claimed the lives of 74 sailors from the US-backed Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam).
Experts agree that having seized the Paracels by force cannot serve as a legal basis for a claim to sovereignty.
Instead, China relies on a diplomatic letter written by then Prime Minister Pham Van Dong of North Vietnam, to then Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai in 1958 regarding the breadth of China’s territorial waters.

China recently reiterated its position that Dong's letter recognizes its sovereignty over both the Paracel archipelago and the more southernly Spratly (Truong Sa) archipelago. In doing so, China has intentionally misrepresented the letter, which contains no direct reference to either island chain.

In addition, it ignores the spirit and time in which the letter was written.

PM Dong penned the cable during Vietnam's division (1954-1975). During that time, the two communist neighbors shared extremely close ties and the US navy threatened them both.
Experts agree that the letter represented a diplomatic gesture of goodwill that has no legal relevance to the current territorial dispute.

Below is a translation of the letter.

“Dear Comrade Prime Minister,
We solemnly inform you that the Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam acknowledges and supports the declaration dated September 4th,1958 by the Government of the People’s Republic of China regarding the decision on the breadth of China’s territorial sea.
The Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam respects that decision and will direct its state agencies to absolutely respect the 12-nautical mile breadth of China’s territorial sea in all the relations with People’s Republic of China at sea.
Respectfully yours,”


http://www.thanhniennews.com/politi...legal-basis-to-chinas-island-claim-26821.html

You are lying same what other Chinese did on this forum about Letter of Pham Van Dong.

1954 China and North Vietnam signed in to Geneva daccords. North Vietnam territory is limited at 17th parallel. Pracel and Spratly islands is territory of South Vietnam.

The letter said only about 12 miles coastline related to North Vietnam and China. No word about Paracel and Spratly. Dirty Chinese can lying and made the torsitions on the letter only.

View attachment 650562

 

[cochine]

Even Vietnam MSM said that Pham Van Dong ( = Ho Chi Minh and whole team) did agree that Spratly and Paracel belongs to China.

But Vietnam MSM also claims that what Pham Van Dong previously said is non of our (current GoV) business today. Today GoV stance is Spratly and Paracel belong to Vietnam.


************

China has produced a letter written by North Vietnam’s former Prime Minister Pham Van Dong in 1958 as proof that it holds sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly islands; experts agree, however, that the late PM had no legal authority to do so.

Tensions recently escalated between Beijing and Hanoi after the former positioned a mobile, deep-water drilling rig in waters off the Paracel Islands on May 2.

The Hoang Sa archipelago (or the Xisha islands, as China calls them) was seized in 1974 during a bloody Chinese naval assault that claimed the lives of 74 sailors from the US-backed Republic of Vietnam (South Vietnam).
Experts agree that having seized the Paracels by force cannot serve as a legal basis for a claim to sovereignty.
Instead, China relies on a diplomatic letter written by then Prime Minister Pham Van Dong of North Vietnam, to then Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai in 1958 regarding the breadth of China’s territorial waters.

China recently reiterated its position that Dong's letter recognizes its sovereignty over both the Paracel archipelago and the more southernly Spratly (Truong Sa) archipelago. In doing so, China has intentionally misrepresented the letter, which contains no direct reference to either island chain.

In addition, it ignores the spirit and time in which the letter was written.

PM Dong penned the cable during Vietnam's division (1954-1975). During that time, the two communist neighbors shared extremely close ties and the US navy threatened them both.
Experts agree that the letter represented a diplomatic gesture of goodwill that has no legal relevance to the current territorial dispute.

Below is a translation of the letter.

“Dear Comrade Prime Minister,
We solemnly inform you that the Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam acknowledges and supports the declaration dated September 4th,1958 by the Government of the People’s Republic of China regarding the decision on the breadth of China’s territorial sea.
The Government of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam respects that decision and will direct its state agencies to absolutely respect the 12-nautical mile breadth of China’s territorial sea in all the relations with People’s Republic of China at sea.
Respectfully yours,”


http://www.thanhniennews.com/politi...legal-basis-to-chinas-island-claim-26821.html

China is aggressor, China invaded and taken Vietnam Islands with Force. Map of China is here.

The letter said about 12 mile related to China PRC and North Vietnam, limited by 17 Parrarel only.

Chinese is dirty liar in this world.