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Qais jungle main akaila hai mujhay Jaanay do.
Khoob guzray gi jo mil baithain gai Dewanay do.
This verse sums up the state of some of our posters some more senior than junior. Zarvi yaar, please learn to analyze thew situation a bit better and more realistically.
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I concur with your forensic analysis of my previous post :P

It was just speculation based on the ACM's actual comments. In the video he said that there are talks with 2-3 countries for a 5th-generation fighter, which I and several others found curious because he then went on to mention that PAC would develop the PAF's next-gen fighter. So just wondered, as a question, "could ACM Sohail Aman have also meant 4.5 gen fighters?" We can speculate, but we all know he wasn't talking to a defence journalist like Alan Warnes or a defence expert, so maybe he had to make an off-the-shelf purchase sound like a big deal. Alternatively, he might have literally meant that a 5th gen fighter will be imported. We will have to wait and see, and I believe here or elsewhere I mentioned that we should wait for Alan Warnes to come up with a PAF article to explain.
Shukar ha boss!!
Otherwise it was already being used as a "proof" that we are buying EFTs!!
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chie...s-air-headquarters.486563/page-3#post-9368200
 
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now a days Zarvan has become an evolve Nishan ....

@Zarvan there is no need for you to pretend MORE INFORMED then the other ... plz its a request
I don't most here know these things but deny it I just say them
 
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Qais jungle main akaila hai mujhay Jaanay do.
Khoob guzray gi jo mil baithain gai Dewanay do.
This verse sums up the state of some of our posters some more senior than junior. Zarvi yaar, please learn to analyze thew situation a bit better and more realistically.
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Sir, sometimes i feel like crying, sometimes like banging my head against a wall and sometime i feel like doing certain things to others that are not appropriate to be mentioned on an online forum.

We are going in a very very wrong direction here.

I wish and request that people like you, Sir @fatman17 @Irfan Baloch @Oscar @TaimiKhan can spend some more time on the forum to give our members some direction. I am sorry when i say and admit that although that responsibility was transferred to us we seem to be failing here. Will still need help from you people to get things back to the level where they were and where they SHOULD BE. The only comfort i can find is in the fact that we do try at least @HRK @Dazzler @Slav Defence @waz @WAJsal .



I don't most here know these things but deny it I just say them
Perhaps there is a reason that they don't. Do you think that we all HATE OUR MILTARY and that is why we do not ANNOUCNE anything good about them? PLEASE. THINK ABOUT IT.
 
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Sir, sometimes i feel like crying, sometimes like banging my head against a wall and sometime i feel like doing certain things to others that are not appropriate to be mentioned on an online forum.

We are going in a very very wrong direction here.

I wish and request that people like you, Sir @fatman17 @Irfan Baloch @Oscar @TaimiKhan can spend some more time on the forum to give our members some direction. I am sorry when i say and admit that although that responsibility was transferred to us we seem to be failing here. Will still need help from you people to get things back to the level where they were and where they SHOULD BE. The only comfort i can find is in the fact that we do try at least @HRK @Dazzler @Slav Defence @waz @WAJsal .




Perhaps there is a reason that they don't. Do you think that we all HATE OUR MILTARY and that is why we do not ANNOUCNE anything good about them? PLEASE. THINK ABOUT IT.

I also check before sharing when they say they don't mind this news being shared than I share I have other news also which I am not given green signal to share the moment I will have I will share right now I am trying to confirm what happened with French delegation visit because as far as I know Rafale makers senior level guy was part of the delegation and few other senior defence guys from France.
 
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Sir, sometimes i feel like crying, sometimes like banging my head against a wall and sometime i feel like doing certain things to others that are not appropriate to be mentioned on an online forum.

We are going in a very very wrong direction here.

I wish and request that people like you, Sir @fatman17 @Irfan Baloch @Oscar @TaimiKhan can spend some more time on the forum to give our members some direction. I am sorry when i say and admit that although that responsibility was transferred to us we seem to be failing here. Will still need help from you people to get things back to the level where they were and where they SHOULD BE. The only comfort i can find is in the fact that we do try at least @HRK @Dazzler @Slav Defence @waz @WAJsal .




Perhaps there is a reason that they don't. Do you think that we all HATE OUR MILTARY and that is why we do not ANNOUCNE anything good about them? PLEASE. THINK ABOUT IT.
the guy needs to go, he talk too much nonsense and has more sources than the cia. not every visit is because of a sale of high end kit.
 
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I also check before sharing when they say they don't mind this news being shared than I share I have other news also which I am not given green signal to share the moment I will have I will share right now I am trying to confirm what happened with French delegation visit because as far as I know Rafale makers senior level guy was part of the delegation and few other senior defence guys from France.
NO. That is a breech pure and simple. If info needs to be made public then there is press for that. These defence organisations have public relations who can let the public know when required after clearances.

You are claiming Hazrat to be in know of knowledge that cannot be made public? If that is so then the leak needs to be fixed. people releasing need to be held accountable for sharing info to a civilian.
 
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NO. That is a breech pure and simple. If info needs to be made public then there is press for that. These defence organisations have public relations who can let the public know when required after clearances.

You are claiming Hazrat to be in know of knowledge that cannot be made public? If that is so then the leak needs to be fixed. people releasing need to be held accountable for sharing info to a civilian.
90 % of people lack interest in defense so this news doesn't matter to them so no question of sharing those who have if they want to share many times they are allowed.Many of things which PAF doesn't consider that secret are more secret considered by members of this forum for no reason.
 
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90 % of people lack interest in defense so this news doesn't matter to them so no question of sharing those who have if they want to share many times they are allowed.Many of things which PAF doesn't consider that secret are more secret considered by members of this forum for no reason.


Maybe most of the people don't have interest in defense but if any foreign intelligence wants to get information they can use this kind media for primary information. Though they surly have Many option and mole but still this kind of leaks becoming another source.
 
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Maybe most of the people don't have interest in defense but if any foreign intelligence wants to get information they can use this kind media for primary information. Though they surly have Many option and mole but still this kind of leaks becoming another source.
These are not that hidden things these agencies have men inside these companies they know things
 
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There's been news running on channels that Acm met prime minister in early morning, the statement by PM is that he assured all financial support for PAF whenever required, what ACM been doing early with PM for funds must be cooked and ready. My guess is Jordanian F-16s are being sought out as I saw a video on YouTube new one that 16 F- soola are ready to be sold to PAF waiting USA go ahead. These birds are mlued and not adf like previous ones, 15 are single seat and one two seater. I hope it's all done and ready for delivery with payment being sought by ACM. Will put it's connection here let me find it again.
 
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the guy needs to go, he talk too much nonsense and has more sources than the cia. not every visit is because of a sale of high end kit.
CIA is a SOURCE!! :P :D
I have been saying this for ages now. NOT ALL VISITS MEAN MILITARY HARDWARE PROCUREMENT DEALS. It is just as simple as that but people do not realize.
Thank you for supporting me on this one. I hope he will listen to you. MAYBE!!

I also check before sharing when they say they don't mind this news being shared than I share I have other news also which I am not given green signal to share the moment I will have I will share right now I am trying to confirm what happened with French delegation visit because as far as I know Rafale makers senior level guy was part of the delegation and few other senior defence guys from France.
Brilliant!
So it is the Rafale now!!

And it will be at least somewhat helpful if when you are making those claims and mentioning things and wishes as certainties and talking about some "sources" you can clearly mention that by these sources you mean to say "you friends on facebook" or "a journalist friend" so people can then decide for themselves. Why afraid of mentioning this much? I mean, you do not want to misguide people deliberately right? or do you? so if not, do mentioned that what you "know for certain" you came to know about it on Facebook and then let the people make up there own mind. Fair enough??? They have a right to decide for themselves right? so just mention that FB connection in all those "100% authentic claims"
Maybe most of the people don't have interest in defense but if any foreign intelligence wants to get information they can use this kind media for primary information. Though they surly have Many option and mole but still this kind of leaks becoming another source.
It is something that we have been quite strict about in the past. However it is all out of control now. All hell have broken loose for some months. Previously, a couple of years back, any such info was highly regulated and there were strong check on posting such stuff. (i remember tank trials an year or so ago)
 
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CIA is a SOURCE!! :P :D
I have been saying this for ages now. NOT ALL VISITS MEAN MILITARY HARDWARE PROCUREMENT DEALS. It is just as simple as that but people do not realize.
Thank you for supporting me on this one. I hope he will listen to you. MAYBE!!


Brilliant!
So it is the Rafale now!!

And it will be at least somewhat helpful if when you are making those claims and mentioning things and wishes as certainties and talking about some "sources" you can clearly mention that by these sources you mean to say "you friends on facebook" or "a journalist friend" so people can then decide for themselves. Why afraid of mentioning this much? I mean, you do not want to misguide people deliberately right? or do you? so if not, do mentioned that what you "know for certain" you came to know about it on Facebook and then let the people make up there own mind. Fair enough??? They have a right to decide for themselves right? so just mention that FB connection in all those "100% authentic claims"

It is something that we have been quite strict about in the past. However it is all out of control now. All hell have broken loose for some months. Previously, a couple of years back, any such info was highly regulated and there were strong check on posting such stuff. (i remember tank trials an year or so ago)
Rafale or not but Dassault Aviation 2nd or 3rd major guy was part of the delegation along with other defence guys I think one was also from that company which designed FREMM Class Frigates and one other rest were economy guys
 
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CIA is a SOURCE!! :P :D
I have been saying this for ages now. NOT ALL VISITS MEAN MILITARY HARDWARE PROCUREMENT DEALS. It is just as simple as that but people do not realize.
Thank you for supporting me on this one. I hope he will listen to you. MAYBE!!


Brilliant!
So it is the Rafale now!!

And it will be at least somewhat helpful if when you are making those claims and mentioning things and wishes as certainties and talking about some "sources" you can clearly mention that by these sources you mean to say "you friends on facebook" or "a journalist friend" so people can then decide for themselves. Why afraid of mentioning this much? I mean, you do not want to misguide people deliberately right? or do you? so if not, do mentioned that what you "know for certain" you came to know about it on Facebook and then let the people make up there own mind. Fair enough??? They have a right to decide for themselves right? so just mention that FB connection in all those "100% authentic claims"
indeed the guy needs to simmer down or maybe he like the attention like some weird kardashian.

alan warnes is a credible source as he seems to like pakistan and has genuine contacts there. messiah , billalkhan777, ghazi786, oscar, and a couple others i cant remember are good sources, the rest is a load of rubbish zarvan is in a league of his own.
 
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