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US waives restrictions to allow $2bn aid

Really ? Because you have been living under the rock for a long time , I find myself obliged to inform you that Pakistan Army has long refused any aid from the US Govt :azn: ... No FMS is currently active and all trainers have left the country even those who were stationed with the latest F16's ... ..................

The F-16 have contract-mandated personnel, perhaps they are called "contractors" now?
 
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the evacuation is still to happen be careful what you wish for USA :azn:

after god american life is pretty much in pakistan's hands

Just a reminder from the past ... To those who have forgotten :azn:

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Remnants of an Army by Elizabeth Butler depicting William Brydon who was the sole Briton to complete the catastrophic retreat from Kabul.


The F-16 have contract-mandated personnel, perhaps they are called "contractors" now?

I do not think so and the reports indicate those stationed with F-16's at PAF Shahbaz have left ... Maybe , if you can confirm with any link :)
 
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Begin counting for us then , since you made that claim :azn: After you are done , subtract the amount of Pakistani damage in men , material and International foreign relations , 35,000 martyrs in the War Against Terror and what it costs to allow transit route and the deep damage to economy and law and order situation and last but not least rehabilitating the war affectees and the Afghan immigrants in our country who are a burden on us since 3 decades ... :azn:
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No AID has ever benefited the economy significantly as you are keen to prove ...

We were the largest developing economy in the late 50's ... Time you take a history lesson or two

P.S Good to see you back on the topic ... Changing the topic and trolling wasn't going to get you anywhere ... :azn:


No one shoved down either, the war or the aid down pakistan's throat. you have vehemently accepted the aid and participated in the war.

Afghan refugees was a policy matter which you made, if it was a mistake own up to it.

As far as economy is concerned you were the largest developing economy in the 50's, it is your own fault that you have declines, what is the point in living in the past.

So to summarize pakistani leadership and policymakers alike have no foresight, which has led to political, economical and security shortfalls, Hence mend your own system instead crying foul at every one else.
 
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Really ? Because you have been living under the rock for a long time , I find myself obliged to inform you that Pakistan Army has long refused any aid from the US Govt :azn: ... No FMS is currently active and all trainers have left the country even those who were stationed with the latest F16's ... So a fan boy like me knows where the money is going , if it isn't being used for economy and development or used by the military for enhancing military capabilities ...

So are you implying that Pakistan doesn't need the rest of the Oliver perry hazard class frigates donated by united states???????
 
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Yes it isn't ... $2bn doesn't feed 180 million people or even half of it ... Comprehendo ? :azn:

Yes they do and they do it for their own benefit , not that of the state and its people ... Comprehendo again ? :azn: ... Everybody here knows Pakistan can run without the aid ...

Try not to start trolling or you may be painted in a pinkish manner ... The topic isn't about Drone or PTI's so better be on the topic ...



If the nation of Pakistan doesn't give a damn about the aid money , then who the **** is the Govt of Pakistan or you to tell us about the advantages and of aid ? :rofl: ... The politicians put the aid in their Swiss banks , it doesn't benefit the citizens of Pakistan in anyway ... Army has long refused any sort of FMS or military assistance or aid ... Ask anyone here , check survery polls and TV interviews and check what the common man reacts to such nonsensical aid drama and whether it is coming or not ... :azn:

Yes , I can see the quality of your " replies " ...


Calm down bhai jaan, bhai sahib.

Indians do not know the nature of things related to Pakistan so they come over here to egg, to do a bit mirchi, and have little fun on our expense. So ignore them.


Coming back to the topic.


This is not AID. These are payments for our services to American wars. Be them cold war, hot war, or a warm war. These are payments.

Like Dell pays an Indian company for a call center, American gov. pays this from Pentagon budget (written or unwritten) to Pakistan.

In return Pakistan as a nation provide support to American civilians and military. Some of the money goes directly to our military and most of it goes to our people and a small percent goes to the pockets of corrupt civilians and military personnel.

Since this is a payment of our services, we should not mind taking this money, instead we should do even better job in terms of saying "Thank you", and then guiding the Americans in the right direction where it suits us better.


$2 billion in a $35 billion budget is substantial part. So let's not trivialize it. Don't follow lullu punjoo bazari discussion or guyz like Imran. They don't know how to run a HUGE country like Pakistan. How to keep the payments for our loans, and our imports of tea, petrol, and other essential items. They just give statements.


If you don't like to provide military services to America, then be willing to provide civilian services and tourism just like China, India, Japan, the whole darn Europe etc. Then we will not be dependent on the waivers and we can make honest day of living.


But unfortunately as Pakistanis, we do not want to work hard like Chinese, Indians, S. Koreans, Japanese, Brazilians so our governments are forced to go for the defense contracts because that is our fall back plan and above all we have been good at it for most of our time since 1947.

Take your pick when it comes to making money for Pak, and let Indians do the joke thing. They need some entertainment too.

peace to you.

p.s. This money is coming from Pentagon budget of $1000 billion a year (both open and hidden), so anyone saying this money should go hungry in America doesn't know what they are talking about.

Pakistani army in essence have a chance to tap into $1000 billion a year if we are good salepeople.

Can you imagine our budget of $200 billion a year (7 times current budget) and its impact on our education and health sector? So we must do more if we want to live a better life.
 
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Just a reminder from the past ... To those who have forgotten :azn:

800px-Remnants_of_an_army2.jpg


Remnants of an Army by Elizabeth Butler depicting William Brydon who was the sole Briton to complete the catastrophic retreat from Kabul.




I do not think so and the reports indicate those stationed with F-16's at PAF Shahbaz have left ... Maybe , if you can confirm with any link :)



Your picture belongs to Afghanistan and not Pakistan.

1000s of soldiers who died in Afghan wars were not only Goras, but many Pashtoons and Punjabis from modern day Pakistan.

Just keeping the history straight. That's all.
 
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I do not think so and the reports indicate those stationed with F-16's at PAF Shahbaz have left ... Maybe , if you can confirm with any link :)

As far as I know, all contract-mandated personnel associated with the F-16 program are still in place, and will remain so.
 
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Just a reminder from the past ... To those who have forgotten :azn:

800px-Remnants_of_an_army2.jpg


Remnants of an Army by Elizabeth Butler depicting William Brydon who was the sole Briton to complete the catastrophic retreat from Kabul.




I do not think so and the reports indicate those stationed with F-16's at PAF Shahbaz have left ... Maybe , if you can confirm with any link :)



Your picture belongs to Afghanistan and not Pakistan.

1000s of soldiers who died in Afghan wars were not only Goras, but many Pashtoons and Punjabis from modern day Pakistan.

Just keeping the history straight. That's all.
 
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I am surprised, You people take aid from US and then abuse US :what:. This is called namak haraam.
 
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Leave it to the Afghanis and the Americans in Afghanistan.

I wish it were that simple. This is a $10-15 billion dollars a year illegal trade, with international implications.
 
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Its actually paying for loss they have cost in terms of infrastructure etc.

I always find it strange that why Pakistan doesn't say that its not aid, its the money US owe for Pakistan's loss in WoT.
 
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