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israeli mossad is said to be knee-deep in assisting Kurdistan objectives too
US supporting PKK Terrorists
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Turkey says it helps Kurdish fighters enter Syria - Businessweek
Guys, I think this vindicates what i have said so far - Turkey is now supporting the Kurds/PKK. Unfortunately, Erdogan has played this card very late and turned a potential strategic and PR win into a mess.
I'm sorry to say that with all the PKK historical baggage, Turk members are not being logical or objective in their analysis.
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lol so you guys just realized that the west supports terrorists? I$I$I was created by the west and their puppets....
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What that article is talking about is allowing krg's peshmerga's from iraq into Syria via Turkey. You could say it's indirectly helping pyd/pkk. However, it was already known that this move was questionable since krg spokespeople didnt confirm this. It's also written in this article. If the news is true, on the contrary it's a good move on Turkey's side to allow peshmerga through in order to maintain the status quo between isis and pyd/pkk so that more casualties can be inflicted on both sides and keep isis busy there. Most important thing, i guess, is allowing Barzani (krg) to spread influence at the expense of rivals pyd and pkk. If Barzani can get more influence on Syrian Kurds, it would be great since Barzani is pro-Turkey. To sum it up, this move may seem as help for pkk/pyd at the moment, but in the long run it might be beneficial for Turkey and krg if it plays out well.
I wouldnt call others biased and unlogical while your impression so far has been nothing but parroting some western and pro-pyd/pkk sources, thus biased and shallow.
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You think we are not logical as you don't know about Turkey.
PKK killed 2 police officers a week ago.(We killed all the militants that involved in the assassination about half an hour later).
That's not history... So don't try to teach us our own country and affairs my Bangladeshi friend.
If Barzani can keep in check the Syrian Kurds that would be great for us... But Barzani and YPG has already beef among each other. YPG at the time arrested 70 members of a political party that had ties with Barzani. Barzani sealed the border, etc....
Salih Muslim said they don't want Peshmerga but weapons... Barzani said peshmerga will arrive in 48 Hours.
I think Salih Muslim needs an accident and his role should be filled by an official selected by Barzani in these times of crisis.
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good choise letting peshmerga enter ayn al arab.. this is against PKK PYD bastards.. could result in internal "fight" or makes the propaganda brake.. good PKK helps kurds.. now pushtmerga come to save asses of PKK 
but to america would be fun to close Incirlik and give it to China.. this EU and US talks about NATO and "friendship" they give a shit about it.. supporting terrorists against us and than playing the nato card.. it would be a great loss for Germanys EU and US if turkey would be banned from NATO or gives Incirlik to China..
but whole story tells us what NAto and EU are also it shows that pseudo turks defending EU or US are our enemys..
pan indo guys in love for hairy woman are more logical, yes I am convinced Turks are not logical..
no some ppl just dont want to change they talk the same they wont see through.. many ppl are fallin in pro Kurdi propaganda.. many ppl just need something to be against us.. or like germans say.. the more enemys the more honor..
but to america would be fun to close Incirlik and give it to China.. this EU and US talks about NATO and "friendship" they give a shit about it.. supporting terrorists against us and than playing the nato card.. it would be a great loss for Germanys EU and US if turkey would be banned from NATO or gives Incirlik to China..
but whole story tells us what NAto and EU are also it shows that pseudo turks defending EU or US are our enemys..
pan indo guys in love for hairy woman are more logical, yes I am convinced Turks are not logical..
no some ppl just dont want to change they talk the same they wont see through.. many ppl are fallin in pro Kurdi propaganda.. many ppl just need something to be against us.. or like germans say.. the more enemys the more honor..
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I'm in fact a big fan of Turkey and have many Turkish friends from uni - I'm not an enemy, so no need for the unpleasantness. Time will tell what side of history you boys are on.good choise letting peshmerga enter ayn al arab.. this is against PKK PYD bastards.. could result in internal "fight" or makes the propaganda brake.. good PKK helps kurds.. now pushtmerga come to save asses of PKK
but to america would be fun to close Incirlik and give it to China.. this EU and US talks about NATO and "friendship" they give a shit about it.. supporting terrorists against us and than playing the nato card.. it would be a great loss for Germanys EU and US if turkey would be banned from NATO or gives Incirlik to China..
but whole story tells us what NAto and EU are also it shows that pseudo turks defending EU or US are our enemys..
pan indo guys in love for hairy woman are more logical, yes I am convinced Turks are not logical..
no some ppl just dont want to change they talk the same they wont see through.. many ppl are fallin in pro Kurdi propaganda.. many ppl just need something to be against us.. or like germans say.. the more enemys the more honor..
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USA airdropped some of military stuff to ISIS controlled area ... This video shows IS captures airdropped weapons...
IŞİD ABD'nin gönderdiği yardım paketini ele geçirdi İZLE - En son haber
This video shows IS captures airdropped weapons...
IŞİD ABD'nin gönderdiği yardım paketini ele geçirdi İZLE - En son haber
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Would be interesting to know what he's saying.USA airdropped some of military stuff to ISIS controlled area ...
IŞİD ABD'nin gönderdiği yardım paketini ele geçirdi İZLE - En son haber
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He starts with a verse from Qur'an ( Enfal/36 );
''Verily, those who disbelieve spend their wealth to hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and so will they continue to spend it; but in the end it will become an anguish for them. Then they will be overcomed. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto Hell.''
Then simply he tells about they captured american military equipment with Allah's help which sent for qafirs and thanks to Allah... Arab members can help better on translation..
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You can speak Arabic?
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Nope, all I know beginner level basics and I do connect the dots
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Just imagine Turkish military making this mistake. The world would be screaming Turkey is supporting isis. I can perfectly imagine the headlines on cnn and pisstv and some iranian and syrian users crying about this as evidence of Turkey's support for isis.USA airdropped some of military stuff to ISIS controlled area ...
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Kobane aid triggers Turkey-US debate
Washington took the initiative to airdrop ammunition and weapons to Kurdish fighters battling jihadists in Kobane despite Turkey’s objections, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğanhas said, in a bid to underline that Ankara does not consider the Democratic Union Party (PYD) a legitimate counterpart, regardless of U.S. views.
“Did Turkey view this business positively? No it didn’t. America did this in spite of Turkey, and I told [Obama] that Kobane is not currently a strategic place for you; if anything, it is strategic for us,” Erdoğan said during a news conference in Riga on Oct. 23, referring to his latest telephone conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama that took place at the latter's initiative on Oct. 19.
The Turkish government views the PYD with deep suspicion because of its ties to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and has previously turned down requests for it to open a land corridor so that Kobane could be resupplied from other Kurdish areas of northern Syria.
“I told him that the PYD is in the same situation as the PKK. I said ‘[The PYD] is also a terrorist organization,’” Erdoğan said.
He added that he stressed to Obama that the U.S. aid to the PYD was going to a terrorist organization and that there were PKK leaders among the PYD militants fighting against the Islamist State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
Erdoğan also repeated his argument that reports that some airdropped supplies ended up in the hands of jihadist militants proved that his objections were right.
In response to earlier statements by Erdoğan, the U.S. capital has already said the PYD’s legal situation in the United States was different than that of the PKK, which is on its list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations.
Speaking on Oct. 22, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said Washington did not think the U.S. airdrop operation was wrong.
When asked during the State Department’s daily foreign press briefing later on the same day if the U.S. thought the operation was a mistake, Harf simply answered: “Not at all.”
“[Obama] has made very clear why we consider it urgent and essential to resupply the fighters in Kobane who are in a desperate situation,” she added, referring to Erdoğan and Obama’s recent telephone conversation.
In her remarks, Harf sought to avoid indicating a conflict between the allies, but underlined that the U.S. stood behind the logic of the airdrop operation.
“We’ll let the Turkish government speak for itself, but allowing ISIL to seize more territory along the border with Turkey could endanger more Syrian communities and threaten our shared interest with Turkey in defeating ISIL and strengthening the moderate opposition,” she said.
Harf also responded to reports that some airdropped weapons had fallen into the hands of ISIL, without confirming that at least one cache of supplies had fallen to ISIL.
“All military missions incur some risks. But the alternative of doing nothing, of not making sure the fighters pushing ISIL back on the ground in and around Kobane have the weapons and the ammunition they need and the medical supplies they need – we don’t think [that] is a viable option,” she said.
Meanwhile, Erdoğan also reiterated Ankara’s insistence on mainly supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA), seeing it as “the only group which should be supported in Syria against ISIL.” He did, however, confirm the agreement to send Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga forces to Kobane.
“There are two important groups here, which can function and be significant for Kobane. The Free Syrian Army is our first choice and the second is the Peshmerga. And we told the Peshmerga that we will allow them to pass through our country under control,” he said.
Turkey’s announcement that it would permit the Peshmerga to cross Turkish soil to reach Kobane was interpreted as a sign of a U-turn in Turkey’s stance over the issue.
In the first step after Turkey’s announcement, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) in northern Iraq said it decided to send 200 Peshmerga fighters with heavy weapons to Kobane.
“I have learned that they finally reached agreement on a figure of 200 [fighters],” Erdoğan said.
Kobane aid triggers Turkey-US debate - INTERNATIONAL
Washington took the initiative to airdrop ammunition and weapons to Kurdish fighters battling jihadists in Kobane despite Turkey’s objections, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğanhas said, in a bid to underline that Ankara does not consider the Democratic Union Party (PYD) a legitimate counterpart, regardless of U.S. views.
“Did Turkey view this business positively? No it didn’t. America did this in spite of Turkey, and I told [Obama] that Kobane is not currently a strategic place for you; if anything, it is strategic for us,” Erdoğan said during a news conference in Riga on Oct. 23, referring to his latest telephone conversation with U.S. President Barack Obama that took place at the latter's initiative on Oct. 19.
The Turkish government views the PYD with deep suspicion because of its ties to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and has previously turned down requests for it to open a land corridor so that Kobane could be resupplied from other Kurdish areas of northern Syria.
“I told him that the PYD is in the same situation as the PKK. I said ‘[The PYD] is also a terrorist organization,’” Erdoğan said.
He added that he stressed to Obama that the U.S. aid to the PYD was going to a terrorist organization and that there were PKK leaders among the PYD militants fighting against the Islamist State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
Erdoğan also repeated his argument that reports that some airdropped supplies ended up in the hands of jihadist militants proved that his objections were right.
In response to earlier statements by Erdoğan, the U.S. capital has already said the PYD’s legal situation in the United States was different than that of the PKK, which is on its list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations.
Speaking on Oct. 22, State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said Washington did not think the U.S. airdrop operation was wrong.
When asked during the State Department’s daily foreign press briefing later on the same day if the U.S. thought the operation was a mistake, Harf simply answered: “Not at all.”
“[Obama] has made very clear why we consider it urgent and essential to resupply the fighters in Kobane who are in a desperate situation,” she added, referring to Erdoğan and Obama’s recent telephone conversation.
In her remarks, Harf sought to avoid indicating a conflict between the allies, but underlined that the U.S. stood behind the logic of the airdrop operation.
“We’ll let the Turkish government speak for itself, but allowing ISIL to seize more territory along the border with Turkey could endanger more Syrian communities and threaten our shared interest with Turkey in defeating ISIL and strengthening the moderate opposition,” she said.
Harf also responded to reports that some airdropped weapons had fallen into the hands of ISIL, without confirming that at least one cache of supplies had fallen to ISIL.
“All military missions incur some risks. But the alternative of doing nothing, of not making sure the fighters pushing ISIL back on the ground in and around Kobane have the weapons and the ammunition they need and the medical supplies they need – we don’t think [that] is a viable option,” she said.
Meanwhile, Erdoğan also reiterated Ankara’s insistence on mainly supporting the Free Syrian Army (FSA), seeing it as “the only group which should be supported in Syria against ISIL.” He did, however, confirm the agreement to send Iraqi Kurdish Peshmerga forces to Kobane.
“There are two important groups here, which can function and be significant for Kobane. The Free Syrian Army is our first choice and the second is the Peshmerga. And we told the Peshmerga that we will allow them to pass through our country under control,” he said.
Turkey’s announcement that it would permit the Peshmerga to cross Turkish soil to reach Kobane was interpreted as a sign of a U-turn in Turkey’s stance over the issue.
In the first step after Turkey’s announcement, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) in northern Iraq said it decided to send 200 Peshmerga fighters with heavy weapons to Kobane.
“I have learned that they finally reached agreement on a figure of 200 [fighters],” Erdoğan said.
Kobane aid triggers Turkey-US debate - INTERNATIONAL
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