US supporting PKK Terrorists

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Turkey allows Kurdish fighters' passage to Kobani -UPDATED | Turkey | Worldbulletin News
Peşmergeye Kobani izni! - Sabah

seems like true news. Maybe from now on suddenly we will hear positive news about Turkey from rudaw and western media as a 'reward' unpredictable moves, i hope our govt isn't doing this just to please certain groups.

OT; backstabbing and non-caring 'allies' as usual. and then westerners cry why the Turkish public is increasingly giving a cold shoulder to nato/west and the us since the last few decades.

Wow, fvck this government.....

 

[tesla]

davudoglu is a idiot i wont give vote this idiot in the elections

 

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davudoglu is a idiot i wont give vote this idiot in the elections

And you think all this was Davutoglus idea? Lets face it Erdogan is the one giving the direction.

 

[tesla]

And you think all this was Davutoglus idea? Lets face it Erdogan is the one giving the direction.

idont know erdogan talks else, government talks another

 

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idont know erdogan talks else, government talks another

Nothing new that Erdogan talks different and acts different, his talks are for masses who arent able to think critical.

OT; backstabbing and non-caring 'allies' as usual. and then westerners cry why the Turkish public is increasingly giving a cold shoulder to nato/west and the us since the last few decades.

Its technically not a backstabbing if our own goverment does the same.

 

[Nefer]

'PYD'nin Suriye amaçları ÖSO'dan farklı'

Çavuşoğlu, Kobani'den Türkiye'ye kaçmak zorunda kalanların tekrar Kobani'ye dönüp huzur içinde yaşamasını istediklerini belirterek, şöyle devam etti:

"Tabii burada dikkat edilmesi gereken bazı hususlar da var. PYD'nin Suriye'ye yönelik amaçları ÖSO'dan farklıdır. Yani sadece Suriye'nin belli bir bölgesini kontrol etme amacı gütmektedir aynı IŞİD gibi. Dolayısıyla bunun Suriye'nin geleceği ve demokratik yapılanması için bir tehdit olduğunu düşünüyoruz. Dolayısıyla PYD bu emellerini sürdürdükçe ÖSO'nun da Türkiye'nin de desteğini alamaz. Burada PYD'nin de diğer unsurların da buradaki politikalarını değiştirmesi, bu emellerinden vazgeçmesi gerekiyor.

Diğer taraftan Suriye'deki gelişmelerle ilgili her zaman bu sorunun gerçek sebebin de unutulmaması gerektiğini vurguluyoruz ve Esed rejiminin Suriye'deki durumun gerçek sebebi olduğunu her vesileyle söylüyoruz. Esed rejimiyle de IŞİD ile de bugün mücadele eden tek unsurun ÖSO olduğunu da unutmamamız gerekiyor. Dolayısıyla genel anlamda daha kapsamlı bir strateji çerçevesinde burada esas desteklenmesi gereken grubun ÖSO olduğu konusunda müttefiklerimizle de hemfikiriz."
Source : Yenisafak

Government, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO

 

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Government, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO

Seriously, what the fvck is going on...... now FM says, PYD can't gain Turkey's support if it continues with it's current policy... but in the mean while we are aiding them by giving free passage to peshmerga...

 

[Hakan]

And now apparently Turkey is to allow Peshmerga using their roads to reach Kobani

Turkey gives Peshmerga forces passage to Kobane
By RUDAW 59 minutes ago

Kurdish Peshmerga forces. Photo: AFP
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—The Turkish government has agreed to give Kurdistan Region Peshmerga forces passage to the besieged Kurdish town of Kobane, a well-placed source told Rudaw today.

The official source said that Turkey has responded positively to a request from Kurdish President Massoud Barzani to allow Peshmerga forces pass through Turkish territory to relieve Peoples Protection Units (YPG) fighters in their battle against the Islamic State (IS).

According to the source who didn't want to be named, Barzani and Peshmerga Minister Mustafa Sayid Qader have coordinated the plan with Salih Muslim, leader of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) and his YPG commanders.

Muslim met with Barzani in Duhok last week where the two discussed the fighting in Kobane between the YPG and IS militants who have besieged the town for more than a month.

On Sunday evening the US military said that the air force had made multiple airdrops of weapons and medical supplies to the Kurdish fighters in Kobane.

In a statement, the US central command said the weapons and supplies were provided by the Kurdish authorities in Iraq.

An official source in Erbil confirmed the US report to Rudaw, saying, “The weapons, ammunition and medical supplies were from the Kurdistan Region and we asked the US to deliver them to the fighters in Kobane.”

“It is our support and our national duty,” he said. “In the future our will support will increase in coordination with the US.”

I thought turkey was against kurds. Why krg but not pkk? I thought the pkk represented all kurds. The kurds are united afterall right? Same ideology shared among millions.

Seriously, what the fvck is going on...... now FM says, PYD can't gain Turkey's support if it continues with it's current policy... but in the mean while we are aiding them by giving free passage to peshmerga...

They can save the city but they cant soundly defeat isis. This will keep the game going for longer untill fsa is ready to take over northeast syria. Plus turkey can say we saved kobani by aiding the kurds its just that we didnt aid pkk.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

ideology is pretty different. IS united their differences. And now both are fighting for the survival of the Kurdish movement over there. They are currently having talks on how to let the pro-Barzani parties in Rojava to share the power with PYD. Some minor differences, they want 50%/50% PYD suggests 40%/40%, the rest to other groups like Christians and Arabs to make it more democratic. There are like 5000 Syrian Kurdish fighters that are non-YPG affiliated where they discuss on how to inclde them.
For Turkey that is only positive since KDP have close ties with Turkey. Maybe to reduce PYD influence they accept Peshmerga?

 

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ideology is pretty different. IS united their differences. And now both are fighting for the survival of the Kurdish movement over there. They are currently having talks on how to let the pro-Barzani parties in Rojava to share the power with PYD. Some minor differences, they want 50%/50% PYD suggests 40%/40%, the rest to other groups like Christians and Arabs to make it more democratic. There are like 5000 Syrian Kurdish fighters that are non-YPG affiliated where they discuss on how to inclde them.
For Turkey that is only positive since KDP have close ties with Turkey. Maybe to reduce PYD influence they accept Peshmerga?

I thought that PYD and KRG had beef among each other ? KRG sealed the border with PYD some months ago.
Tensions Rise as Barzani Closes Syrian-Iraqi Kurdistan Border - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East

Now Pesh helps PYD forces.... weird things keep happening IMO.

 

[tesla]

barzani can send gun and soldiers to kobani also to help terorrist ypg but that dosent mean to beat islamic state
perhaps isil will beat both ypg and peshmerge
is this theory possible ?

 

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barzani can send gun and soldiers to kobani also to help terorrist ypg but that dosent mean to beat islamic state
perhaps isis will beat both ypg and peshmerge ?
is this theory possible

Man, as i follow this battle.... Kobani has been a Jihadist grinder. All YPG and it's backers had to do is to hold their ground. ISIS sends hundrends of militants but they got massacred in coaliton bombings.

 

[usernameless]

Krg helping pyd/pkk is strange since they have a beef, if not mistaken. Clearly Barzani is seeking a temporary 'coalition' among Kurdish factions to combat isis, which is actually not a bad idea at all since peshmerga could serve as another buffer/distraction against isis in syria. I think many of us were saying before that Turkey should keep a status quo between isis and pkk/pyd and let the mutual massacring of both terrorists prolong, so i think this move was actually needed to maintain the status quo because it seems even pkk's and western coalition's help is almost not sufficient to save pyd's skin in Syria. I think our govt's intention is also to help spread Barzani's influence among Syrian Kurds at the expense of pyd/pkk influence. Just my thoughts. interesting times lie ahead.

 

[manlion]

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry said Monday the Obama administration decided to airdrop weapons and ammunitions to "valiant" Kurds fighting Islamic State extremists in the Syrian border town of Kobani because it would be "irresponsible" and "morally very difficult" not to support them.

Kerry "It would be irresponsible of us, as well morally very difficult, to turn your back on a community fighting ISIL as hard as it is at this particular moment,"

Kerry: 'Irresponsible' not to aid Kurds against IS

Man, as i follow this battle.... Kobani has been a Jihadist grinder. All YPG and it's backers had to do is to hold their ground. ISIS sends hundrends of militants but they got massacred in coaliton bombings.

Daesh/IS is in a dilemma - withdrawal or continue reinforcing, both are suicidal ..

 

[EasyNow]

Of course the US will support PKK. No one else is willing to fight on the ground.

Turkey should be thankful for the Kurdish resistance as it's doing a lot of your work for you. Sadly, this was a chance to build bridges but instead Erdogan has sowed another century of resentment from Kurds.