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2500 greeks in Turkey according to this source Greeks in Turkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Napoleon occupied Vienna but the Ottomans failed to conquer it twice, today Italians hate the Ottomans more then Napoleon.
They would hate us even if they open their archives and the world declares the Ottomans innocent since we are the Muslim the "agents of Satan" the empire of anti-Christ and the "eastern menace".
Europe and their satellite Christian populations/nations who look to Europe for guidance despise us because of our religion and apparent difference of culture never mind the fact that nations only a century ago were all looking forward and attempting to build empires. How many times have you heard the word Mongol/Tork (as the Armenian who posted in this thread intending it to be an insult) and even the word Turk was originally meant to be an insult to the Ottomans.
Azatavrear the onus is not on me to prove my claims as being false but if your own knowledge of the situation is lacking that I cannot help you either and statements by Armenia as "they will solve this problem"
Once we take care of Aliyev and liberate the Talish and the lezgins from Azeri rule (who send them to fight the Armenians instead of Turks) we will liberate our eastern front establishing a dirrect border with Russia (and a longer southern boarder with our brothers in Iran) and make your friend Georgia irrelevant, then we will return Persian lands (Azerbaijan) back to Iran.
No need to take Baku....she will fall by her own.
Both Russia and Iran would support redrawing the borders in East Caucasus.
lol...nice to see "anti-fascist" "genocide-sensitive" armenians started to tell their wet dreams..keep your feet on the ground,things you said are childish...
I really don't think you can persuade Iran to support you against Turkey. Sure you could do that 10 years ago, but today Iran is much closer to Turkey than Armenia, i can assure you that amigo. Iran has lots to gain by leaning to Turkey, rather than support poor Armenia at the cost of Turkey.
How is what I said had anything to do with Turkey....I am talking about East Caucasus. Iranians, just like us, do not recognize Stalin's devide and conquer artificial borders. Just look at Nakishevan exclave. Anybody who looks at the map will see how ridiculous that is and how in the hell it could possibly belong to Azerbaijan. No such condition anywhere in the world. Azerbaijan historically is nothing but a Province of Iran and never existed in the past.
Turkey should open its borders with Armenia without pre-conditions as it is being suggested by your American masters and Iranian authorities. We know the growing Turkish relations between Iran and Russia, but that does not change historical realities in the eyes of both those countries.
my thought was the same.....
Wikileak: Armenia cannot be defeated by Azerbaijan
Published: Tuesday February 22, 2011
Washington - "Azerbaijan, even with its focus on improving its military capability, is unlikely anytime soon to structure a force large or well-equipped enough to overcome the terrain advantages enjoyed by the NK Self-Defense Force and the Armenian army," former U.S. Ambassador to Azerbaijan Anne Derse argued at the end of her tenure in Baku.
According to the July 2, 2009 cable that is part of Wikileaks cache and was first published by Russkiy Reporter on February 22, Azerbaijan assumes "a much rosier scenario for NK than it has any plausible reason to expect."
Derse served as U.S. Ambassador to Azerbaijan from 2006 to 2009 and is currently the U.S. Ambassador to Lithuania.
In a January 2009 cable, also published by Russkiy Reporter today, Derse also notes that Azerbaijani "President's rhetoric has vastly outpaced the results" of Azerbaijan's military build-up.
The Washington view
Derse's analysis is in line with U.S. assessment of the balance of forces in Karabakh that former U.S. officials and experts have communicated publicly, their assessment unaffected by Azerbaijan's ballooning military spending expected to top $3 billion in 2011.
Ross Wilson, another former U.S. Ambassador to Azerbaijan (2000-2003) and currently with The Atlantic Council of the United States (ACUS), and Steve Blank of the National War College offered similar analysis during a panel discussion at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington on February 18.
Blank stressed that Ilham Aliyev is "sadly mistaken" if he believes, as he often says publicly, that Azerbaijan could successfully undertake a military operation to capture Karabakh. Blank suggested that his conclusion was based on an in-depth and recent analysis by a group of Western experts.
"Any military campaign will seriously set back Azerbaijan's interests in the region including with respect to solving this [conflict] and I say that in part because I don't think a military effort will succeed," Wilson said at an earlier event at Georgetown University.
"This is extremely difficult terrain, the Armenians hold the high ground and it is very, very difficult to try to take that kind of territory without truly overwhelming force" which Azerbaijan does not possess, Wilson noted.
Wayne Merry, a former State Department and Pentagon official, argued in May 2009 that in addition to the terrain and other physical limitations, Azerbaijan would be facing "Karabakh Armenians [who] have a clear record of superiority in operational art [that] they would exercise in the inherently advantageous role of defenders of a skillfully prepared position."
The realities on the ground "should persuade any rational Azeri not to resort to war. Even the most favorable battlefield outcome would leave Azerbaijan immeasurably worse off than before," Merry wrote.
He warned further that "it is not out of the question that the existence of an Azeri state could hang in the balance, as in a major renewed war it might be in the combined interests of Armenia, Russia and Iran to redraw the map of the eastern Caucasus. Unlikely, but history is replete with precedents."
my opinion (on this 'genocide') is that leave it to the historians....
And who the hell cares what happened over a century ago.