US Naval Officer spent 5 days onboard an Indian Navy warship, INS Delhi

[breeze]

Indians are getting slaughtered in this thread. Wow.

On topic: There is no reason why a US Navy personnel would make up lies regarding the IN. India is looked as as a strategic partner of US interest in the Asia. What this US Naval Officer witnessed must have been mind boggling for him to expose the IN in this way.

This is a serious wake up call to the Indian leadership who are unmistakably incompetent in regards to national security. 2008 Mumbai attacks were early signs of Indian incompetency, and this is just another blow to the face of India.

How does India plan to be of help for the US in the containment of Asia if they lack any efficiency and professionalism? What was revealed by US Naval Officer Tom Baillie was truly stocking. The Indian Navy might be big but it hasn't got the skill nor capability of a true naval power.

 

[untitled]

This thread still alive ?

 

[Always Neutral]

Indians are getting slaughtered in this thread. Wow.

On topic: There is no reason why a US Navy personnel would make up out lies regarding the IN. India is looked as as a strategic partner of US interest in the Asia. What this US Naval Officer witnessed must have been mind boggling for him to expose the IN in this way.

This is a serious wake up call to the Indian leadership who are unmistakably incompetent in regards to national security. 2008 Mumbai attacks were early signs of Indian incompetency, and this is just another blow to the face of India.

Absolutely wrong. Asian navies (Pakistan, Indian, Sri Lankan and Bangladeshi) are all man power intensive and if you come from a Western Naval Ship where automation is the keyword than you will be suprised. I have no doubt the blog is very true though the US Officer comes across as a bit of a duffer to write such insensitive remarks because he failed to understand the Eastern culture and where these practices come from. I am sure he was given a boot on his backside since the blog disappeared as soon as it surfaced. I agree that not wearing helmets or shoes during RAS would be unheard of on a RN ship, sandals are seen on all Asian Navies. Many Asian Officers who embark on Ark Royal are suprised to see the OOW to be a SLT, whereas Viraat always has a Cdr. on the bridge.However very few people know that the Capt. can check all Bridge activities from his day cabin which is due to the high automation onboard.

 

[ashokdeiva]

Indians are getting slaughtered in this thread. Wow.

On topic: There is no reason why a US Navy personnel would make up lies regarding the IN. India is looked as as a strategic partner of US interest in the Asia. What this US Naval Officer witnessed must have been mind boggling for him to expose the IN in this way.

This is a serious wake up call to the Indian leadership who are unmistakably incompetent in regards to national security. 2008 Mumbai attacks were early signs of Indian incompetency, and this is just another blow to the face of India.

How does India plan to be of help for the US in the containment of Asia if they lack any efficiency and professionalism? What was revealed by US Naval Officer Tom Baillie was truly stocking. The Indian Navy might be big but it hasn't got the skill nor capability of a true naval power.

This is your first post and you get it all wrong,
Did you read the opening post of this article, if you have, does it look like a authentic source.
Any one can write a article like that you redicule any armed force. Tomorrow if I write a article climing to be a naval officer who spent 5 days in the USS Nimitz. Then will you be giving the same kind of comment that you have given above.
If not, go have some coffee and next time use your inteligence and not your emotions before you write some thing.

 

[NALANDA]

It was really funny.

Indian Navy and their officers ( Like Armour Corps in the case of Army) lead a Royal Life. The legacy comes from Great Britain.

To think that they will not have best R.O. System on board is very funny.

Anyway...........looking at the post of people I am sure I am o.k. that it made many laugh....REALITY IS DIFFERENT....VERY DIFFERENT.

 

[Indrajith]

INS DELHI (1948) OR INS DELHI (D61) which is the ship this officer reffering about

if 1948 it was decommissioned in 1978

 

[Obambam]

isn't access to interior of warship's restricted to civilians ,at least on a foreign soil ...?
you do have a poor imagination ..!!

How did you wind up being on board the ship? How were you rescued?
Well, I wasn't stranded or anything, so there wasn't a "rescue" per se. Basically, whenever the US does any sort of multi-naval exercise with other nations, it is pretty common that we exchange a few people from each ship as sort of a naval-cultural exchange. In this case, I was sent from a US Navy destroyer based out of Japan to the INS Delhi - the Indian Navy's flagship as part of an exercise that took place last March.

How bad was it?

15+ years old and they looked like nobody had done any maintenance in the last 5+ years. Their ROs were in such poor shape that despite having a greater fresh water production capacity than my ship by several thousand gallons, they were still on water hours.

Access was granted to this particular U.S. chap and what he said could very well be the reason why the interior was off limit.

 

[Abingdonboy]

If you actually read the guy's posts you will see that he doesn't divulge any details you or I couldn't readily find on the Internet. And when asked to provide picture proof of his stay on the Delhi he posts a link to a pic of INS DELHI on Wikipedia (because his camera and phone were damaged, conveniently, on the way to INS DELHI) ! And read the comments on the same page by "exnavy1342" an ex-IN officer who categorically contradicts EVERYTHING this fool has to say, to which the member, strangely, has nothing to say and doesn't even respond to. Strange? Not really, he got called out and is trying to avoid it as much as possible.

I seriously doubt this man is who he says he is and is certainly not a USN officer and has definelty never visited a INS. firstly USN personnel, especially officers, are EXTREMELY courteous, professional and diplomatic and would never make such arrogant, rude and offensive remarks in an open forum like this especially not with such impotus put on developing Indo-US ties- a USN officer would be well aware of the serious repercussions such comments could cause to his career and his country. Secondly anyone who has ACTUALLY visited an INS (I'm not saying I have but a few good friends of mine have) would know that the IN is a thoroughly professional force and runs a "tight-ship" (forgive the pun) with safety and hygiene standards being rigourosly enforced. The fact that the IN is inducting state of the art ships is neither here nor there as they have always had strict standards.

Just to have a visual aid check out the navy-related programs from here:

NDTV » News » Videos

The ep with INS Mumbai and INS VIRAAT perfectly illustrate this.




It is clear this is just biased propaganda with no real merit, every foreign navy that interacts with the IN can't praise them high enough. If the IN was such a shambles why are they so effective and are abe to successfully complete EVERY mission given to them? (look at IN's history to see what I'm talking about).

 

[phylumchordata]

^^Let's talk with fresh facts...have a look how it feels to be inside an Indian warship
Indian Navy Air Craft Carrier INS Virat - 1 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTiroCcsbjw&feature=fvwrel"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTiroCcsbjw&feature=fvwrel]Indian Navy Air Craft Carrier INS Virat - 2 - YouTube

 

[Shinigami]

Thats crazy. i've been inside an IN ship. and that too a really old one. still its classy

anyways. here are a few doc inside IN ships

[video]http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/fromndtv/189922[/video]

 

[Zabaniyah]

Please, let this thread die...

 

[Rafi]

The guy had incites only a US Naval Officer could have, so it is true, but a bitter one for indians.

 

[Shinigami]

INS DELHI (1948) OR INS DELHI (D61) which is the ship this officer reffering about

if 1948 it was decommissioned in 1978

are u sure its this old ship? the source of the article is shaky to say the least

 

[phylumchordata]

The guy had incites only a US Naval Officer could have, so it is true, but a bitter one for indians.

nah, he is not.I don't think any professional military man would divulge such information on some petty internet forum.

 

[Shatterpoint]

lol at this thread, one of the most fake pieces ever, I have friends in the US and French military, and trust me they have nothing but respect for the professional way the Indian Navy etc are run, even speaking to sailor who have been in the US Navy for decades they tell me that the US and Indian navies actually enjoy working together.

If the Indian navy was this bad do you think they would be allowed to train or have war games etc with the US-Japan-Australia etc? India actually invites the US for naval exercise and the US always jumps at the opportunity, even Singapore, Australia, Japan etc are invited.

The French and British have also wanted to participate, so this thread is just LOL what a lot of bullshit, but hey you guys can keep thinking whatever you want lol.