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US intelligence fears Iran duped hawks into Iraq war

1991 Iraq war and ISIS are both off topic. The topic is 2003 invasion of Iraq and Iran's covert role via Iranian agent Chalabi.

So, Iran fooled America to invade Iraq, then GCC and Kuwait particularly facilitates the invasion? Isn't that the most stupid thing to say? Kuwait hosted tens of thousands of U.S troop.

The idea that Iran has lured U.S to invade Iraq comes only out of one thing: They fucked up so bad that they are looking for an outsider to blame for, and it didn't work. And the article you posted is from 2004, no one even in U.S mentions that anymore. If it was true, it would have exploded in world media, but no one mentioned it again because it was so stupid that even U.S itself didn't buy it. But seems for you, it fits the agenda, to pull out every kind of garbage you find about Iran to spread propaganda against it.


And yes, 1991 war is on topic, because it led to massive inspections and sanction regimes against Iraq that finally left it weak and exposed, so they invaded in 2003 to finish the job, after they had killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis indirectly from 1991 to 2003, by sanctions and blockades.

@revojam thanks for the nonsense, but what you said is proved to be bs, Iran didn't open its air apace for any country during invasion on Afghanistan and Iraq. Please tell me more about these stupid conspiracy theories.
 
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Please look at post #4, Iran is trying to pull another Iraq in Bahrain, that is not old news, it is ongoing. Although I do not support ISIS, but I also do not support Iran using US air power to destroy ISIS. Iran should do this on its own. Iran shouts Death to America, but is the biggest expert to covertly manipulate and use US firepower against its enemies.

That is Iran's impressive track record, which should be a lesson for Sunni's.
The beginning of another sectarian shia blah blah blah Sunni blah blah blah thread.
 
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Bullshit your country opened its airspace to NATO forces for Iraq and Afganistan invasion at 2001.Right before invasion a draft brought to Turkish parliment failed to pass in Turkey this draft was about allowing US forces to station and start invasion of Iraq from Turkish soil as well as Turkish Army participation in it.After draft failed to pass two times US decided start invasion from Gulf instead Turkey.But to get Afganistan from Gulf they needed Iranian airspace and your goverment of that time(2001) happily provided them.So much for being enemy of Great Satan.
I knew you guys feel guilty on your role in attacking Iraq but its not the reason to spread lies about it and blame Iran
these are the route used for the 2003 attack
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and now the interesting Image , yes the turkey route
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now let see what happened
At approximately 05:30 UTC two F-117 Nighthawks from the 8th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron[133] dropped four enhanced, satellite-guided 2,000-pound GBU-27 'Bunker Busters' on the compound. Complementing the aerial bombardment were nearly 40 Tomahawk cruise missiles fired from at least four ships, including the Ticonderoga-class cruiser USS Cowpens (CG-63), credited with the first to strike,[134] Arleigh Burke-class destroyer USS Donald Cook (DDG-75), and two submarines in the Red Sea and Persian Gulf.[135]

you see submarine in Persian gulf fire their missiles directly into Iraq but what about the ones in Red Sea can they fire directly into Iraq or you think their missiles fly over Iran !!? For reference here a map of Middle east
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now let see the rest of the story
Special Operations forces from the CIA and US Army managed to build and lead the Kurdish Peshmerga into an effective force and assault for the North. The primary bases for the invasion were in Kuwait and other Persian Gulf nations.
and this
Coalition troops launched an air and amphibious assault on the Al-Faw peninsula during the closing hours of 19 March to secure the oil fields there; the amphibious assault was supported by warships of the Royal Navy, Polish Navy, and Royal Australian Navy.
again if you look at the map you'll see flying over Iran made the attack on Al-Faw impractical but attack from their carrier in Persian gulf is something else.
and again Kuwait
In the meantime, Royal Air Force Tornados from 9 and 617 Squadrons attacked the radar defence systems protecting Baghdad, but lost a Tornado on 22 March along with the pilot and navigator (Flight Lieutenant Kevin Main and Flight Lieutenant Dave Williams), shot down by an American Patriot missile as they returned to their airbase in Kuwait.[142]

oh and this time turkey
Hours after the first of such flights, Turkey did allow the use of its air space and the rest of the 10th SFG infiltrated in. The preliminary mission was to destroy the base of the Kurdish terrorist group Ansar al-Islam, believed to be linked to al-Qaeda. Concurrent and follow-on missions involved attacking and fixing Iraqi forces in the north, thus preventing their deployment to the southern front and the main effort of the invasion.[157]

and again both Turkey and Kuwait
Members of the Coalition included Australia: 2,000 invasion, [Poland]: 200 invasion—2,500 peak, Spain: 1,300 invasion United Kingdom: 46,000 invasion, United States: 150,000 to 250,000 invasion. Other members of the coalition were Afghanistan, Albania, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, Costa Rica, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Japan, Kuwait, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Mongolia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Palau, Panama, the Philippines, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Singapore, Slovakia, Solomon Islands, South Korea, Tonga, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, and Uzbekistan.[171]

Good after enlighten you about 2003 Iraqi war let talk about Afghanistan war
 

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well about the Iran help of Afghanistan Attack well it's the only part that you can find about Iran intervention in that war
the only thing you can find is our help to northern alliance which is something we did from the USSR occupation time not something we do as part of that invasion and when in 2004 Karzai dismissed Ismail Khan from the government of Harat people started an uprising and before it become ugly we mediated between them.
and before I forget we agreed to open the border for expected refugees .
know the only thing that come to mind is our investment in Energy , Roads and education sectors in part of Afghanistan that welcomed our aid . if you are aware of anything else please enlighten me. (you see all our involvement in Afghanistan was protecting the life of civilians and improving their living condition. for example you can say the only places in Afghanistan that have uninterrupted 24 hour electricity is the places that Iran invested in its energy sector.)


now about who attacked Afghanistan there are many countries but I mention some name which are interesting

Azerbaijani Armed Forces has deployed over 184 soldiers to Afghanistan.
Bangladesh provided the use of its airspace and seaports.[2]
India had offered all operational assistance to the United States, including use of its facilities, in any operations launched in pursuit of the perpetrators of the 11 September attack. Importantly Indian intelligence officials provided the United States with needed information concerning the financing and training of Islamic extremist groups in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Indian government had also offered the United States the use of its territory for staging any military operations in Afghanistan.

On the naval front, India provided a frigate for escorting coalition shipping through the Straits of Malacca, made shipyards available for coalition ship repairs and opened ports for naval port calls. India offered the US its air bases and provided the Northern Alliance with logistical support. The Indian Army opened a hospital in Tajikistan, to treat injured Northern Alliance soldiers. India also loaned Mi-17 helicopters to the Northern Alliance.
Kuwait provided basing and overflight permissions for all U.S. and coalition forces.
Kyrgyzstan allowed US and allied aircraft to use Manas Air Base.
Malaysia provided use of its airspace and logistical support.
Oman offered the United States and allies use of its airspace and air bases.
Pakistan has been helping in the war against the Taliban.[citation needed] Pakistan and Iran agreed to open borders to receive the expected increased migration of refugees from Afghanistan. Earlier, Pakistan had supported the Taliban, especially during the 1996–1998 period when they were establishing control – later relations between the two were not as close. After the 9/11 attacks, Pakistan allocated three airbases to the United States for the invasion of Afghanistan. USA depends on Pakistan for a route to Afghanistan to supply the ISAF forces more than any source.
Qatar
Qatar offered the United States and allies use of the Al Udeid Airbase.
Sudan
Sudan offered heavy and lightweight logistic support.
Turkey
Turkey offered the United States use of its airspace and air refuelling for US aircraft deploying to the region. Turkey would later deploy troops to Afghanistan as part of ISAF.

Turkey also provided logistical support.
Turkmenistan
Turkmenistan offered the use of its airspace.
United Arab Emirates
United Arab Emirates provided 3 security personnel. Special Forces are also in Afghanistan (Wikileaks) and Al Minhad Air Base is a support hub for Australia, New Zealand, and previously Canadian air forces.

Uzbekistan
Uzbekistan had allowed the U.S. to place troops on the ground as well as use the Uzbek airbase, K2, for support activities and for deployment and command and control of Special Forces into all of Afghanistan except for the Khandahar region. K2 is no longer in use by the U.S.
well let's not name the USA and European nations as you expect no less of them.
 
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So, Iran fooled America to invade Iraq, then GCC and Kuwait particularly facilitates the invasion? Isn't that the most stupid thing to say? Kuwait hosted tens of thousands of U.S troop.

The idea that Iran has lured U.S to invade Iraq comes only out of one thing: They fucked up so bad that they are looking for an outsider to blame for, and it didn't work. And the article you posted is from 2004, no one even in U.S mentions that anymore. If it was true, it would have exploded in world media, but no one mentioned it again because it was so stupid that even U.S itself didn't buy it. But seems for you, it fits the agenda, to pull out every kind of garbage you find about Iran to spread propaganda against it.


And yes, 1991 war is on topic, because it led to massive inspections and sanction regimes against Iraq that finally left it weak and exposed, so they invaded in 2003 to finish the job, after they had killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis indirectly from 1991 to 2003, by sanctions and blockades.

@revojam thanks for the nonsense, but what you said is proved to be bs, Iran didn't open its air apace for any country during invasion on Afghanistan and Iraq. Please tell me more about these stupid conspiracy theories.

Chalabi affair has not been discounted or disproved by anyone, it was just pushed out of limelight. Show me any article or source that Chalabi's Iranian connection or the idea that Iran has a role in influencing Neocons through Chalabi has been proven wrong. Your personal opinion has very little weight against well researched articles which has not been refuted to this day.

Governmental positions on the Iraq War prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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"Saudi Arabia
Pre-war, Saudi Arabia's public position had been one of neutrality in the conflict; worldwide media reported that, despite numerous American attempts, Saudi Arabia would not offer the American military any use of its land as a staging ground for the invasion of Iraq. In an interview, Prince Saud Alfaysal, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister when asked whether Saudi Arabia would allow more US troops to be placed on Saudi soil, the foreign minister replied, "under the present circumstances with no proof that there is a threat imminent from Iraq, I do not think Saudi Arabia will join in".[17] This was later explained to have been a public front, as Saudi Arabia, as well as Turkey and Kuwait, was actually one of the most important allies in terms of offering coalition soldiers its land, including military bases. It was also eventually learned that a high-ranking Saudi prince had been at the White House on the day that the Iraq war began, and Bush administration officials told the prince to alert his government that the initial phase of the war had begun, hours before missiles first landed in Baghdad. Officially, Saudi Arabia wished to see Saddam Hussein and the Ba’ath regime go, but feared the aftermath.[18] As the US invasion of Iraq became inevitable, the question of whether Saudi Arabia wanted the Baath regime replaced by a pro-Western government "pumping oil in greater quantities than Saudi Arabia" posed a dilemma for the Saudi government.[19]Furthermore, Saudi Arabia worried about the possibility of an Iraqi Shia pro-Iranian government installed at its doorstep, following the demise of Saddam's Sunni regime. Saudi Arabia's response to the war had to be handled carefully so that the US-Saudi strategic alliance did not suffer, while at the same time maintaining the semblance of Arab solidarity against US aggression to appease its own indigenous population.[20] In October 2002 Saudi Arabia declared that his country would allow US use of Saudi military facilities to attack Iraq, provided there was UN approval for it; but on 4 November 2002, Faysal told CNN that it would not . Moreover, in the same month, during a televised address on Saudi television, Crown Prince Abdullah insisted that "our armed forces will, under no circumstances, step one foot into Iraqi territory" . However, the contradiction and ambiguity of the Saudi position reflected the regime's desperation both to appease Washington and not be seen providing a territorial base for the US attack. It also reflected a lack of consensus among senior members of the royal family.

Arab League
The Arab League unanimously condemned the war, with the exception of Kuwait. [26] Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud publicly claimed that the U.S. military would not be authorized to use Saudi Arabia's soil in any way to attack Iraq. However, this was later revealed to have been a front, as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and some other Arab states did, in fact, provide support to American troops, but they did not wish to risk offending Saddam pre-war by making those statements publicly.([27]) After ten years of U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia, cited among reasons by Saudi-born Osama bin Laden for his September 11, 2001 al-Qaeda attacks on America, most of U.S. forces were withdrawn from Saudi Arabia in 2003. ([28]) For the duration of the war, the Saudi public remained strongly against the US action, even regardless of a UN mandate. Before the war, the government repeatedly attempted to find a diplomatic solution, generally agreeing with the US position on Saddam's menace, even going so far as to urge Saddam to go into voluntary exile—a suggestion that angered him a great deal.

Anti-war demonstrations took place in Damascus, Syria; Baghdad, Iraq; Sana'a; Maskat; Amman, Jordan; Widhat, Maan, Irbid, Beirut, Sidon, Lebanon; Bethlehem,Nablus, Tulkarem, Jenin, Ramallah and Gaza, Palestinian cities in the West Bank and Gaza Strip; Tel Aviv, Israel, and in the nation of Bahrain. As is the case inEgypt, demonstrations are not common in many of these less-than-democratic countries and some regimes saw themselves in danger because of riots.

Other Asian states
Bangladesh, Malaysia [24] and Indonesia [25], all largest Muslim countries of world and Vietnam condemned the war. Bangladesh urged to solve the problem through discussion rather than war. Huge anti-war demonstrations took place in Dhaka, Bangladesh; Kathmandu, Nepal; Colombo, Sri Lanka; Kelantan; Jakarta andJava, Indonesia; Surabaya; and Bangkok, Thailand.

Iran
Iran's official view of US policy in Iraq since 2002 has been characterized by considerable ambivalence. On the one hand, lingering mistrust of Saddam Hussein (as a result of 1980-1988 war with Iraq) both created and reinforced an attitude that accepted the US containment of Iraq as being in Iran's interests. On the other hand, the US since 1993 had proclaimed the containment of Iran to be of equal importance to that of Iraq, and therefore, Iranian leaders felt encircled by the arrival of thousands of US troops in Iraq together with those in Afghanistan since the end of 2001. Indeed Bush's 2002 inclusion of Iran in his "axis of evil" meant a US military presence in Iraq could constitute an existential threat for the government of the Islamic Republic. As circumstances in Iraq evolved from early 2003 to mid-2005, Iranian policy makers faced the challenge of crafting strategies to take advantage of new opportunities while simultaneously remaining out of the crosshairs of a triumphal and hostile United States.[27]"

The most interesting fact is that Iran to this day remains the biggest beneficiary of the 2003 Iraq invasion. Not only did it took control of Iraq through the Shia dominated govt., but it attempted to create a Shia crescent, which is now being challenged by the rebels in Syria and Iraq and which is at risk of unraveling. The US out of an odd sense of the ownership of the post invasion Iraq and out of their need to crush virulent anti-West extremist (read stupid) - is now yet again aiding Iran to keep their Shia crescent intact. The gist of the story is that despite Iran's Death to America chants, it was US firepower that helped Iran gain influence in these regional Arab countries and create this so called Shia crescent and it is the same US which is coming back with their air power to rescue Iranians when they are facing difficulty against local extremist rebels.
 
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Hahahaha if all else fails, blame Iran. Iran was NEXT! First Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Iran. So yes, Iran loved that and helped the US. GTFO. This was a bunch of dumb zio cun ts who thought they'd walk all over Iraq in a few weeks and all would be well, surrounding Iran in the process.
Well, didn't happen, thank god. And thank god Iran supplied everything needed to the insurgents.
 
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Chalabi affair has not been discounted or disproved by anyone, it was just pushed out of limelight. Show me any article or source that Chalabi's Iranian connection or the idea that Iran has a role in influencing Neocons through Chalabi has been proven wrong. Your personal opinion has very little weight against well researched articles which has not been refuted to this day.
You are the one posting a 'claim' from a source saying that Iran fooled U.S to attack Iraq, as stupid as it sounds, you are the one who should be able to prove it and the only way I see to prove it is Chalabi's confession that he is an agent of Iran which doesn't exist. No ne can fool U.S to attack a country and the thing that makes it even more impossible is 12 years of very strict inspections on Iraq's military sites, WMD program and almost anything they had.

So you want a proof against the lie that Chalabi fooled U.S in to invading Iraq? Well this is where it's proven that you are spreading a lie:

MI6 and CIA heard Iraq had no active WMD capability ahead of invasion | World news | The Guardian

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

They already knew before the war that whole WMD thing is a hoax and doesn't exist. So no one could have fooled them for anything.

Case closed.

As circumstances in Iraq evolved from early 2003 to mid-2005, Iranian policy makers faced the challenge of crafting strategies to take advantage of new opportunities while simultaneously remaining out of the crosshairs of a triumphal and hostile United States.

All your conspiracy theories will hit the wall. Yes we did exploit the situation, doing to Americans what they did to Iran during Iran-Iraq war.

Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...erican-troops-in-iraq-and-afghanistan/241486/
 
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You are the one posting a 'claim' from a source saying that Iran fooled U.S to attack Iraq, as stupid as it sounds, you are the one who should be able to prove it and the only way I see to prove it is Chalabi's confession that he is an agent of Iran which doesn't exist. No ne can fool U.S to attack a country and the thing that makes it even more impossible is 12 years of very strict inspections on Iraq's military sites, WMD program and almost anything they had.

So you want a proof against the lie that Chalabi fooled U.S in to invading Iraq? Well this is where it's proven that you are spreading a lie:

MI6 and CIA heard Iraq had no active WMD capability ahead of invasion | World news | The Guardian

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

They already knew before the war that whole WMD thing is a hoax and doesn't exist. So no one could have fooled them for anything.

Case closed.



All your conspiracy theories will hit the wall. Yes we did exploit the situation, doing to Americans what they did to Iran during Iran-Iraq war.

Iranian Weapons 'Killing Our Troops' in Iraq, U.S. Says

Iran Killing American Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan - The Atlantic

Read OP and post #2, that answers your laughable argument. The fake WMD charges were actually allegedly created by Iran and pushed by Iranian agent Chalabi, fed to the Neocons who used it as justification to invade Iraq. So of course WMD will not be found, how does WMD not being found prove that Iran did not fool the US using Chalabi?

I will quote relevant parts here from post #2:

"But the far more serious suspicion in intelligence circles is that he passed Iranian disinformation on Iraq to Washington in order to bolster American support for regime change in Baghdad. The allegation was first disclosed May 22 in the Long Island-based Newsday. Expanded accounts have since appeared in the London-based Guardian, the conservative Washington Times and Israel’s mass-circulation Yediot Aharonot."

"But several former intelligence officials told the Forward that the CIA, which has long opposed U.S. support to Chalabi, believes the former Iraqi exile is an Iranian agent and that this might have enabled Tehran to mastermind an intelligence operation of such magnitude.

“The CIA firmly believes that Chalabi is an Iranian agent,” former CIA analyst Larry Johnson told the Forward. “Based on that, I believe Iran used us to carry their water and get rid of Saddam Hussein.”

Asked why the CIA had not raised the issue earlier, Johnson replied that the agency had in fact repeatedly warned U.S. officials about Chalabi’s Iranian connections — but was ignored by the Pentagon. Johnson said CIA Director George Tenet also ignored the warnings of his own analysts, choosing instead to tow the administration’s hawkish line on Iraq.

Officials at the CIA, as well as at the State Department, have long held a skeptical view of Chalabi, who is often cited as the main source for the notion that Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction and U.S. forces would be welcome as liberators by the Iraqi people. But now Chalabi’s enemies are raising the specter that his neoconservative allies in Washington — as well as President Bush — were the unwitting dupes of Iran, one of America’s and Israel’s most dangerous enemies."

"Newsday’s initial report claimed that the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency had concluded that Iran used Chalabi’s intelligence operation to feed false information to Washington. Similar claims then appeared in the Guardian of London and United Press International, whose dispatch appeared in the right-leaning Washington Times. The Israeli daily Yediot Aharonot published a long exposé on the topic on May 28, in its highly respected weekend edition. An article the same day by former Clinton administration aide Sidney Blumenthal, now the Washington editor of the online journal Salon, also pushed the story.

“The Iraqi neocon favorite… has been identified by the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency as an Iranian double agent,” Blumenthal wrote. Blumenthal added, “Either Chalabi perpetrated the greatest con since the Trojan horse, or he was the agent of influence for the most successful intelligence operation conducted by Iran, or both.” "

"Through much of the 1990s, Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress maintained an office in Tehran while running a U.S.-funded program to gather Saddam Hussein-era documents and provide Washington with informants. Chalabi himself has made no secret about his links to the Iranian leadership, arguing that as Iraq’s biggest neighbor and an opponent of Saddam Hussein, it was natural for him to seek positive relations.

In recent weeks, however, speculation about a closer relationship between Chalabi and Tehran has been fueled by allegations that Chalabi’s intelligence chief, Aras Karim Habib, was an Iranian agent. The FBI has opened an investigation into whether sensitive U.S. intelligence was indeed passed to Tehran via Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress. Several U.S. officials are said to be under FBI scrutiny for supplying secrets to Chalabi, both at the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad and at the Pentagon, where several of his strongest supporters now work.

“Some in the intelligence community have made a persuasive case that Iranian intelligence used Aras Habib Karim to [lure the United States into Iraq],” an intelligence source said. “Certainly Aras was central in producing the sources who provided so much disinformation to Western countries that then shared their reports, without sourcing, thus providing false confirmation.”

In its May 22 article, Newsday cited intelligence sources claiming that the Defense Intelligence Agency concluded that the intelligence arm of the INC had been used for years by Iranian intelligence to pass disinformation to the United States and to collect highly sensitive American secrets. The former director of the DIA’s Middle East branch, Patrick Lang, was quoted as saying the alleged Iranian plot was “one of the most sophisticated and successful intelligence operations in history.” "
 
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Read OP and post #2, that answers your laughable argument. The fake WMD charges were actually allegedly created by Iran and pushed by Iranian agent Chalabi, fed to the Neocons who used it as justification to invade Iraq. So of course WMD will not be found, how does WMD not being found prove that Iran did not fool the US using Chalabi?

Wow, I didn't think even you would have a problem comprehending a basic thing like that.I expected more. I didn't want to prove that WMD story was a fake, everyone already knows it was a fake, what I showed you is that Bush administration already knew before the war that WMDs don't exist, so they fooled the world with that story and attacked Iraq who was a danger to U.S banana countries, aka GCC states.

You said Iran created the fake WMD story to fool neocons in to attacking Iraq, but I proved that Bush himself, obviously the head of neocons, already knew before the war that no WMDs exist, yet he didn't cancel Iraqi invasion.

Now tell me, which part of that was too hard to understand?
 
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Wow, I didn't think even you would have a problem comprehending a basic thing like that.I expected more. I didn't want to prove that WMD story was a fake, everyone already knows it was a fake, what I showed you is that Bush administration already knew before the war that WMDs don't exist, so they fooled the world with that story and attacked Iraq who was a danger to U.S banana countries, aka GCC states.

You said Iran created the fake WMD story to fool neocons in to attacking Iraq, but I proved that Bush himself, obviously the head of neocons, already knew before the war that no WMDs exist, yet he didn't cancel Iraqi invasion.

Now tell me, which part of that was too hard to understand?

Both stories were presented to Bush prior to the war, he chose to believe the Iranian version of WMD story from Chalabi and invade. How does that negate role of Chalabi and his alleged sponsor Iran?
 
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A classic muddy the history attempt.
The perception of a gullible America is much better than the reality of a war mongering & region burning america. Saddam Hussein was ditched by all the fellow Arab Muslim fiefdoms except to an extent Jordan. Saddams Iraq wasn't much of a threat to Iran as the war he had waged on Iran was with the full backing of his fellow Arab Muslim fiefdoms except Syria. The idea that Iran would replace an empty Saddam with Uncle Sam in its immediate neighbourhood & that too with a clandestine nuclear program going on is more than absurd. Let alone the fact that Chalabi & his intelligence guy hood winked & then duped the neocons & with them their super power in to a disaster is utterly nonsensical.
Had there been no insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan then Iran was next in line.
Guys keep in mind the Iran & P5 + 1 negotiations deadline for next month.

@kalu_miah I find you as gullible as the suicide bomber blowing up people in a mosque in the name of ALLAH.
 
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Hi,

The U S has been had by the best----. The Iranians used them and then spit them out. They playing the same game regarding the nuclear issue----.
 
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A classic muddy the history attempt.
The perception of a gullible America is much better than the reality of a war mongering & region burning america. Saddam Hussein was ditched by all the fellow Arab Muslim fiefdoms except to an extent Jordan. Saddams Iraq wasn't much of a threat to Iran as the war he had waged on Iran was with the full backing of his fellow Arab Muslim fiefdoms except Syria. The idea that Iran would replace an empty Saddam with Uncle Sam in its immediate neighbourhood & that too with a clandestine nuclear program going on is more than absurd. Let alone the fact that Chalabi & his intelligence guy hood winked & then duped the neocons & with them their super power in to a disaster is utterly nonsensical.
Had there been no insurgency in Iraq & Afghanistan then Iran was next in line.
Guys keep in mind the Iran & P5 + 1 negotiations deadline for next month.

@kalu_miah I find you as gullible as the suicide bomber blowing up people in a mosque in the name of ALLAH.

Yes, and I find your logic as idiotic as Assad and his Mullah backer terrorists sitting in Tehran.
 
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@Serpentine
@kalu_miah's sectarian talk comes form his identity crisis. Like many Muslim immigrants growing up in the US, he's trying to find an identity among the world's Mid-Eastern Sunni population, though he's not of mid-east descent. He probably feels closer to his Sunni Arab brethren when bashing Shias. His views are not representative of the average Bangladeshi.
 
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