Netanyahu is drawing the US into war with Iran

[HGV]

It does. If it doesn't have nukes, Americans can pretty much destroy Iran. Only deterrence is nukes.

Did you read my post? I said "from a fantasy Israeli attack".

If needed, Iran can field nuclear tipped ICBMs within a maximum of 2 years. The tech is already there. In any event, it would be suicide for any country to actually attempt to attack the US mainland, so it's a moot point.

 

[Bengal71]

Did you read my post? I said "from a fantasy Israeli attack".

If needed, Iran can field nuclear tipped ICBMs within a maximum of 2 years. The tech is already there. In any event, it would be suicide for any country to actually attempt to attack the US mainland, so it's a moot point.

But did you read my post? In my original post I said Israel or US attack. Any Israeli attack will definitely come with the US. Any US attack, US alone is capable.

It's not a moot point. Nuclear weapon is a deterrent. US did not attack a nuclear armed NK. But it attacked countries with nuclear ambitions who abandoned it, such a Lybia and Iraq.

 

[HGV]

But did you read my post? In my original post I said Israel or US attack. Any Israeli attack will definitely come with the US. Any US attack, US alone is capable.

Iran has successfully deterred both from attacking, so it must be doing something right.

US will provide material support to Israel in event of Israel-Iran conflict (as it already does), but it is unlikely to directly intervene. Iran and Israel are too far away to engage in a protracted war, it will be an exchange of fire for a few days/weeks. Hence why Iran has surrounded Israel with a ring of fire.

It's not a moot point. Nuclear weapon is a deterrent. US did not attack a nuclear armed NK. But it attacked countries with nuclear ambitions who abandoned it, such a Lybia and Iraq.

USA is not interested in the Middle East these days. Iran has latent nuclear capability and can deploy nuclear weapons at short notice if needed.

 

[Finer]

Israel brought USA into Middle East through false flag of 9/11 which Israel intelligent has staged.

So usa and its populations are that stupid to make one more mistakes and Israel is counting on that.

 

[fitpOsitive]

US doesn't have the power to wage any wars overseas now, the time had long changed, Now what's left of US is all talking.

Actually that's the only capability left with USA.

 

[Bengal71]

Iran has successfully deterred both from attacking, so it must be doing something right.

US will provide material support to Israel in event of Israel-Iran conflict (as it already does), but it is unlikely to directly intervene. Iran and Israel are too far away to engage in a protracted war, it will be an exchange of fire for a few days/weeks. Hence why Iran has surrounded Israel with a ring of fire.

USA is not interested in the Middle East these days. Iran has latent nuclear capability and can deploy nuclear weapons at short notice if needed.

Deterred so far. I was not talking about past, I was talking about future. That is if the US attacks. The only way to deter them from attacking is declared nuclear capability.

I also suspect that Iran has latent capability but that's only a suspicion. It's not confirmed from any source.

 

[HGV]

Deterred so far. I was not talking about past, I was talking about future. That is if the US attacks. The only way to deter them from attacking is declared nuclear capability.

I also suspect that Iran has latent capability but that's only a suspicion. It's not confirmed from any source.

Iran can already inflict significant damage to US forces and assets within 2000km of Iran's borders (fortunately for Iran, there are many in this range). This is deterrence.

I agree the ultimate deterrence is nuclear weapons, but there is a very strong US-EU-Israel effort to stop this at all costs since at least 2002. A concerted US-EU-Israel campaign against any regional power will be overwhelming. Iran's response has been to reach latent nuclear capability, and that is essentially confirmed.

Also, ICBMs are not necessary - a nuclear strike on Israel is strong deterrence against a US invasion.

 

[Bengal71]

Iran can already inflict significant damage to US forces and assets within 2000km of Iran's borders (fortunately for Iran, there are many in this range). This is deterrence.

I agree the ultimate deterrence is nuclear weapons, but there is a very strong US-EU-Israel effort to stop this at all costs since at least 2002. A concerted US-EU-Israel campaign against any regional power will be overwhelming. Iran's response has been to reach latent nuclear capability, and that is essentially confirmed.

Also, ICBMs are not necessary - a nuclear strike on Israel is strong deterrence against a US invasion.

Conventional weapons alone are not a deterrence for the US. If that's what Iranians think, they are fooling themselves.

Anyway, my main point was the amount of hostility Iran has specially from the US, it's idiotic to not build a nuke and test it.

 

[mehmed bey]

US doesn't have the power to wage any wars overseas now, the time had long changed, Now what's left of US is all talking.

What is your intervention? Go take Taiwan then talk or keep cercilig around and talk how strong you are or how weak others are.
Put upbor shut up.
Thus is not a place to take a viagra , no more. Take it somewhere else.

 

[HGV]

Conventional weapons alone are not a deterrence for the US.

Evidence to date suggests otherwise.

If that's what Iranians think, they are fooling themselves.

Anyway, my main point was the amount of hostility Iran has specially from the US, it's idiotic to not build a nuke and test it.

I agree that only a nuclear deterrence can permanently deter a direct US invasion. But it's not necessary to deter Israel.

 

[Bengal71]

Evidence to date suggests otherwise.

America's lack of attack is not evidence to that. There can be many reasons America didn't do that.

 

[delta2]

Conventional weapons alone are not a deterrence for the US. If that's what Iranians think, they are fooling themselves.

Anyway, my main point was the amount of hostility Iran has specially from the US, it's idiotic to not build a nuke and test it.

This only proves the fact that the USA sees Iran as a useful idiot.

The Iranian "strategy" completely destroyed Syria, achieved nothing, got Iran nothing in return. Also completely destroyed Yemen, achieved nothing, got nothing in return.

Interestingly, the Iranians did absolutely nothing in Afghanistan.


The more you look at things, the more you suspect that the Iranian Crazy Mullah Regime does EVERYTHING that eventually benefits the interests of the US Empire!

The Crazy Mullah will cause the death and destruction of millions of Syrians, cause hunger and destruction in Yemen, yet at the same time cites a religious reason for not testing thr nuke.

It only proves one thing: they're all in it together.

Pakistan needs to double the stockpile!

You guys are seriously out of touch with reality if you think US can’t wage another war. It can fight the whole world simultaneously and win that war due to its military might and the fact that it’s virtually impossible to be invaded.

But the new battle tactics are best employed covertly which cause damage without firing a bullet ok…perhaps a few.

Have you guys already forgotten the Iranian nuclear scientists killed in “accidents”? How a USB caused damage?

I think people should start looking at things more realistically than emotionally.

Only countries like Afghanistan or Iraq.

China will sink every single Ohio class within a day!

The USA is an empire, a military super power, for sure, anyone who doubts it is a moron. But the USA cannot and will not wage a war in which it loses half of its naval fleet in 2 days!

 

[jamal18]

We saw that in Afghanistan.

Different wars. The US can deliver massive sustained fire power at almost any target in the world.

Conventional war is different.

 

[Strigon]

Only countries like Afghanistan or Iraq.

China will sink every single Ohio class within a day!

The USA is an empire, a military super power, for sure, anyone who doubts it is a moron. But the USA cannot and will not wage a war in which it loses half of its naval fleet in 2 days!

/Yawn

That's what people said about Russia's abilities as well, which is now suffering heavy losses with just small arms supply.

All that overhyped gear sold to moron countries like the Pajeet Central...

 

[delta2]

/Yawn

That's what people said about Russia's abilities as well, which is now suffering heavy losses with just small arms supply.

All that overhyped gear sold to moron countries like the Pajeet Central...

Russia has easily killed 400,000 Ukrainian soldiers, using less than 5% of Russian military capabiliy, still did not annihialate Kyiev.

Russia went in for a military conflict, with a NATO trained, funded and supplied military force.

It is funny though, there is a hot war, somehow Russia loses 100,000 men but Ukraine loses 0 in a conflict with a death ratio of 1 to 4.

No wonder the American kids are failing at math!