US, India navies meet over aircraft carrier cooperation

[Hindustani78]

US, India navies meet over aircraft carrier cooperation | Zee News
Last Updated: Saturday, August 15, 2015 - 17:48

New Delhi: In a sign of deepening US-India defence ties, the US Navy hosted a delegation of Indian naval officers for the inaugural Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation on the US eastern coast during August 12-14.


During the three-day visit, the Indian delegation led by Vice Admiral S.P.S. Cheema, commanding-in-chief of the Western Naval Command, visited the US Navy`s state-of-the-art aircraft carrier PCU Gerald Ford, currently under construction at Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia.

The Indian delegation received briefs on US Navy management of aircraft carrier programmes, met senior Pentagon officials, and toured the US Navy`s research and development facilities for aircraft carrier launch and recovery systems as a first step to exploring opportunities for cooperation, said a US embassy press release.

During the working group, the US and Indian navies held candid and open discussions on various aspects of aircraft carrier development, including design, integration, test, evaluation, management and oversight of carrier construction.

The joint working group, co-chaired by the US Navy`s Program Executive Officer for Aircraft Carriers, Rear Admiral Tom Moore, and India`s Controller for Warship Production and Acquisition, Vice Admiral G.S. Pabby, is part of the larger India-US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI).

The intent of DTTI is to reduce procedural obstacles in both the US government and the Indian government`s defence establishments in order to facilitate broader cooperation in defence production as a component of the strategic partnership.

India`s defence ministry identified aircraft carrier technology as one of the topics of interest to pursue under DTTI.

Building on a highly successful first meeting, the working group is looking forward to setting a meeting agenda for the next working group to be held in India early next year, it said.

IANS

 

[[Bregs]]

hmm INS Vishal will have many US collaborations

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Good news. Now, Indo-US Defence Co-Operation is getting some traction. The tech for CATS /EMALS should be tied up as quickly as possible. That will allow the design of the next Carrier to be frozen.

 

[proud_indian]

Good news. Now, Indo-US Defence Co-Operation is getting some traction. The tech for CATS /EMALS should be tied up as quickly as possible. That will allow the design of the next Carrier to be frozen.

offtopic

sir, How many carrier battle groups do we need by the year 2030 or 2035?
by that time do you think Indian coast guard would be strong enough to let navy free completely from securing coasts?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

offtopic

sir, How many carrier battle groups do we need by the year 2030 or 2035?
by that time do you think Indian coast guard would be strong enough to let navy free completely from securing coasts?

Three. That will be adequate for the IOR ; coupled with 2 LHDs and the LPDs that are planned for. Along-side Shore-based Aviation; that is enough air-reach.
As far as the Coast Guard is concerned; it is well on the way to achieving that. The Coast Guard surface fleet and aviation wing are enough; though my niggling concern is that the Navy should then step back. The armed forces, always tend to hold onto their turf longer than they should. While MoD has consistently failed in setting out clear-cut policies regarding this. But the IN has been a progressive and forward thinking force for the most part.


@MilSpec; your views ?


unless........ you're still chasing that job that Mr.Walter Mitty is offering.....

 

[Hindustani78]

Boost for defence: India & US explore opportunities for cooperation on aircraft carrier technology - The Economic Times
By ET Bureau | 15 Aug, 2015, 04.02PM IST

NEW DELHI: Seeking to deepen defence ties, the US Navy recently hosted a delegation of senior Indian naval officers for the inaugural "Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Cooperation" on the US eastern coast.

During a three-day visit, the Indian delegation, led by Vice Admiral SPS Cheema, Commanding-in-Chief, Western Naval Command, visited the US Navy's state-of-the-art aircraft carrier, PCU Gerald Ford, currently under construction at Newport News Shipbuilding in Virginia.

He also received briefs on US Navy management of aircraft carrier programs, met with senior Pentagon officials, and toured the US Navy's research and development facilities for aircraft carrier launch and recovery systems as a first step to exploring opportunities for cooperation.

"During the working group the US and Indian navies held candid and open discussions on various aspects of aircraft carrier development, including design, integration, test, evaluation, management and oversight of carrier construction," said a US Embassy release.

The Joint Working Group on Aircraft Carrier Technology Cooperation, co-chaired by United States Navy's Program Executive Officer for Aircraft Carriers, RADM Tom Moore, and India's Controller for Warship Production and Acquisition, VADM GS Pabby, is part of the larger India-US Defence Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI).

The intent of DTTI is to reduce procedural obstacles in both the US government and Government of India defence establishments in order to facilitate broader cooperation in defence production as a component of the strategic partnership. The Indian Ministry of Defence identified aircraft carrier technology as one of the topics of interest to pursue under DTTI.

The working group is looking forward to setting a meeting agenda for the next working group to be held in India early next year.

 

[Sarjen29]

Damn... it seems like IN want to build the carrier very soon. Guys any idea about when woul the project start????

 

[surya kiran]

Three. That will be adequate for the IOR ; coupled with 2 LHDs and the LPDs that are planned for. Along-side Shore-based Aviation; that is enough air-reach.
As far as the Coast Guard is concerned; it is well on the way to achieving that. The Coast Guard surface fleet and aviation wing are enough; though my niggling concern is that the Navy should then step back. The armed forces, always tend to hold onto their turf longer than they should. While MoD has consistently failed in setting out clear-cut policies regarding this. But the IN has been a progressive and forward thinking force for the most part.


@MilSpec; your views ?


unless........ you're still chasing that job that Mr.Walter Mitty is offering.....

With the CBG, there is a need to improve the logistical capabilities. Both onshore and aviation. While the CBG is a visible threat, we are still far behind in the unseen offensive capabilities. Like SSN and SSKs. Not to mention, we still do not have the capabilties which are next generation like the Triton BAMS. To dominate the IOR, there is a need for CBGs backed with underwater offensive capability with a system like Triton BAMS.

Also, our current IN Air Wing is attuned to attack surface assets on sea. How effective will they be without something like a Growler against onshore installations. After all the PN and PLAN are not exactly the low tech navies. This, though can be achieved over a 15 year period.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

With the CBG, there is a need to improve the logistical capabilities. Both onshore and aviation. While the CBG is a visible threat, we are still far behind in the unseen offensive capabilities. Like SSN and SSKs. Not to mention, we still do not have the capabilties which are next generation like the Triton BAMS. To dominate the IOR, there is a need for CBGs backed with underwater offensive capability with a system like Triton BAMS.

Also, our current IN Air Wing is attuned to attack surface assets on sea. How effective will they be without something like a Growler against onshore installations. After all the PN and PLAN are not exactly the low tech navies. This, though can be achieved over a 15 year period.

CBGs have their space and utility in operational doctrines. The IN's doctrines are not the same as that of the USN. And I agree that the sub-sea strike force needs to be augmented. While the IN has only just begun to exploit the Space Segment, both for Sensors and for Integration. More needs to be done there. The PN and the PLAN are very different from each other; just as their threat levels are. Geography also has to be factored into any reading of that aspect.

 

[SwAggeR]

offtopic

sir, How many carrier battle groups do we need by the year 2030 or 2035?
by that time do you think Indian coast guard would be strong enough to let navy free completely from securing coasts?

As many as our economy allows. But I think two nuclear ones and two convention ones would be fine.

One always parked in yards for upgradation or repair.

Second and Third on each east and west flanks.

Fourth nuclear one with on expeditiary missions.

 

[sumoto]

offtopic

sir, How many carrier battle groups do we need by the year 2030 or 2035?
by that time do you think Indian coast guard would be strong enough to let navy free completely from securing coasts?

Actually according to IN longterm view it gas stated that IN wants 6 ACC active in the seas and 2 ACC in the docks so in all 8 ACCs is the aim of IN according to ins long term planning paper.

 

[SwAggeR]

Three. That will be adequate for the IOR ; coupled with 2 LHDs and the LPDs that are planned for. Along-side Shore-based Aviation; that is enough air-reach.
As far as the Coast Guard is concerned; it is well on the way to achieving that. The Coast Guard surface fleet and aviation wing are enough; though my niggling concern is that the Navy should then step back. The armed forces, always tend to hold onto their turf longer than they should. While MoD has consistently failed in setting out clear-cut policies regarding this. But the IN has been a progressive and forward thinking force for the most part.


@MilSpec; your views ?


unless........ you're still chasing that job that Mr.Walter Mitty is offering.....

I would say we should work on doctrine of sea-denial. 4-5 boomers on either side of peninsula coupled with long range bombers. 10-15 Anti-Ship ballistic missile ranging >2500 kms would be fine.

 

[Hindustani78]

offtopic

sir, How many carrier battle groups do we need by the year 2030 or 2035?
by that time do you think Indian coast guard would be strong enough to let navy free completely from securing coasts?

The INS Vishal is the second of two new indigenous Indian Navy carrier designs currently under construction. The INS Vishal is following the INS Vikrant into service which is expected to be commissioned in 2017.

INS VISHAL Specifications

Designation: INS Vishal
Classification Type: Nuclear-Powered Aircraft Carrier (Rumored)
Ship Class: Vikrant-class
Number in Class: 2
Operators: Indian Navy

Ships-in-Class
INS Vikrant; INS Vishal
Dimensions:
Length: 860ft (262.13m)
Beam: 200ft (60.96m)
Draught: 28ft (8.53m)
Performance:
Surface Speed: 28kts (32mph)
Range: 8,600miles (13,840km)
Armament Suite:
4 x Otobreda 76mm dual purpose cannons
Surface-to-Air Missile Launchers
Close-In Weapon System (CIWS)
Structure:
Complement: 1,400
Surface Displacement: 65,000 tons
Power plant:
Engine(s): 4 x General Electric LM2500+ gas turbines generating power to 2 x shafts. Air Arm:
The air arm was likely to be HAL Tejas naval varient, and according to rfi issued earlier its was the contendors of mmrca, but most like it may carry RAFALE onboard, with E-2D Hawk Eye, and potent ASW helicopters.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Actually according to IN longterm view it gas stated that IN wants 6 ACC active in the seas and 2 ACC in the docks so in all 8 ACCs is the aim of IN according to ins long term planning paper.

Oh really !!!?? never seen any such document.

 

[sumoto]

Oh really !!!?? never seen any such document.

Yep i don't have a link now but i have read about it. As early i will get that link i will provide it to you.