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Russia: US planes over western Syria now 'air targets'
By Pamela Boykoff, CNN
Updated 9:35 AM EDT, Tue June 20, 2017
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Story highlights
  • Russian statement comes day after US Navy jet shoots down Syrian warplane
  • Defense official: Threat level has escalated in Syria
(CNN)A day after a US Navy fighter jet shot down a Syrian warplane, Russia warned that aircraft operating where the shootdown occurred would be considered "air targets" for its forces in Syria.

The Russian Ministry of Defense called the downing of the plane "a cynical violation of the sovereignty of the Syrian Arab Republic" and "military aggression."

As a result, it said, Russia has stopped using a key "de-confliction" communication channel set up to avoid conflict between US and Russian forces in Syria.


While both the US and Russia say their forces are in Syria to fight ISIS infiltration there, Russia has allied itself with the regime of Syrian President Bahsar al-Assad while the US-led coalition has aligned with groups that oppose both the Assad regime and ISIS.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Monday the US shootdown of the Syrian Su-22 was "an act of assistance to those terrorists whom the United States is ostensibly fighting against," according to Russia's state-run news agency Tass.

The Syrian military acknowledged the loss of its aircraft and said the pilot was missing after ejecting.

It's the first time the US has shot down a Syrian aircraft since it began fighting ISIS in the country in 2014.

"This strike can be regarded as another act of defiance of international law by the United States," Ryabkov said.



Russia: Aircraft west of Euphrates River are 'targets'


The Russian Defense Ministry said it would exert new control over the skies of western Syria.

"From now on, in areas where Russian aviation performs combat missions in the skies of Syria, any airborne objects found west of the Euphrates River, including aircraft and unmanned vehicles belonging to the international coalition, tracked by means of Russian land and air anti-aircraft defense, will be considered air targets," the Defense Ministry statement reads.

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Coalition forces released a response within hours of the Kremlin statements.

"As a result of recent encounters involving pro Syrian regime and Russian forces, we have taken prudent measures to reposition aircraft over Syria so as to continue targeting ISIS forces while ensuring the safety of our aircrews given known threats in the battle space," coalition spokesman Col. Ryan Dillon told CNN.

"We are continuing to conduct operations throughout Syria targeting ISIS forces and providing air support for coalition forces and our partner forces on the ground," Dillon said. "We as a coalition are always ready to deconflict."



An escalated threat



A defense official told CNN the belief is the potential threat has escalated given recent encounters with pro-regime forces near At Tanf, as well as the downing of the Syrian aircraft.

In Washington, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph Dunford, said communication between Russia and the US remains open.

Dunford said the US is working "diplomatically and militarily to reestablish a "de-confliction" channel.

"I am also confident that our forces have the capability to take care of themselves," Dunford added. "The worst thing any of us can do right now is to address this thing with hyperbole."

This is not the first time that Russia has said the "de-confliction" channel has been suspended. In April, after the US missile strike on a Syrian airbase, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Russia would suspend the 2015 agreement aimed at minimizing risks of in-flight incidents.

The US military is prohibited by law from coordinating directly with the Russian military, but given the increased pace and scale of military operations in Syria, the US and Russia have sought ways to ensure that their respective personnel are not targeted by mistake, setting up a series of so-called "de-confliction zones" that delineate areas of operation for the coalition and the Russian forces.



Analysts see positioning


With ISIS now significantly weakened, analysts believe all all parties in Syria are maneuvering to consolidate their positions for an eventual settlement of the conflict.

Jeremy Binnie, Middle East and Africa editor for Jane's Defence Weekly, says the players in Syria are now operating with "half an eye on the post-Islamic State situation," and looking to control as much territory as possible.

Related: Explaining the complex crisis in Syria

Russia could work to de-escalate the situation, but Moscow is "looking increasingly less like an honest mediator between the sides," he says. "We don't know until we see how it plays out in reality, but it is definitely Russia making a pretty strong statement in favor of the Assad government."

Dmitry Trenin, director of the Carnegie Moscow Center, says the events of Sunday and Monday are a significant escalation, which could result in a "collision" between the two sides. To defuse the situation, he said, the US needs to begin to see Russia as a more equal partner in determining the future of Syria.

"It is time for diplomacy," he said.

CNN's Mary Ilyushina, Barbara Starr, Jill Dougherty and Emma Burrows contributed to this report.
 
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There is no legitimate government of Syria.
Only a dictator trying to legitimize himself through fake elections, and rebel groups.
the UN recognized govt of Syria is the most legit govt in syria and thats better than Libya or nothing.
 
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I have found this article, I do not claim this is reliable news

Turkey and Russia to deploy in Syria’s Idlib: Turkey

Reuters | Published — Thursday 22 June 2017
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The Clock Tower of the Idlib city, Syria. (Reuters)
ANKARA: Turkish and Russian personnel will be deployed in Syria’s northern Idlib region as part of a de-escalation agreement brokered by Russia last month, Turkish broadcasters quoted President Tayyip Erdogan’s spokesman as saying on Thursday.
Ibrahim Kalin said the de-escalation zones, agreed by Turkey, Russia and Iran, would be further discussed during talks in the Kazakh capital Astana in early July, Haberturk television channel said.
“We will probably be most prominent in the Idlib region with the Russians; mostly Russia and Iran around Damascus, and a mechanism involving the Americans and Jordan in the south in the Daraa region is being worked on,” Kalin was quoted as saying.
Vladimir Shamanov, head of the Russian Duma defense committee, told RIA news agency Moscow was discussing proposals to send Kazakh and Kyrgyz troops to Syria with representatives of those countries.
“The negotiation process has begun, there is no decision yet,” he was quoted as saying
Under their May 4 accord, Russia, Turkey and Iran agreed to establish four separate de-escalation zones in Syria for at least six months.
The largest of the planned zones includes Idlib province, which neighbors Turkey, and adjoining districts of Hama, Aleppo and Latakia provinces.
The other three zones are in northern Homs province, the Eastern Ghouta region east of the capital Damascus and along the Jordanian border in southern Syria.
The three countries had been due to finalize maps of the de-escalation zones by June 4, but have not said whether agreement has been reached.
Political and armed opposition groups in Syria rejected the proposal when it was announced last month, saying Russia has been unwilling or unable to get President Bashar Assad and his Iranian-backed militia allies to respect past cease-fires.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/1119031/middle-east
This is another source reporting the same: https://www.turkishminute.com/2017/...deployed-to-syrias-idlib-with-russian-forces/
 
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Russia: US planes over western Syria now 'air targets'
By Pamela Boykoff, CNN
Updated 9:35 AM EDT, Tue June 20, 2017
170328141858-russia-jet-syria-tease-super-169.jpg

Story highlights



    • Russian statement comes day after US Navy jet shoots down Syrian warplane
    • Defense official: Threat level has escalated in Syria
(CNN)A day after a US Navy fighter jet shot down a Syrian warplane, Russia warned that aircraft operating where the shootdown occurred would be considered "air targets" for its forces in Syria.

The Russian Ministry of Defense called the downing of the plane "a cynical violation of the sovereignty of the Syrian Arab Republic" and "military aggression."

As a result, it said, Russia has stopped using a key "de-confliction" communication channel set up to avoid conflict between US and Russian forces in Syria.


While both the US and Russia say their forces are in Syria to fight ISIS infiltration there, Russia has allied itself with the regime of Syrian President Bahsar al-Assad while the US-led coalition has aligned with groups that oppose both the Assad regime and ISIS.

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said Monday the US shootdown of the Syrian Su-22 was "an act of assistance to those terrorists whom the United States is ostensibly fighting against," according to Russia's state-run news agency Tass.

The Syrian military acknowledged the loss of its aircraft and said the pilot was missing after ejecting.

It's the first time the US has shot down a Syrian aircraft since it began fighting ISIS in the country in 2014.

"This strike can be regarded as another act of defiance of international law by the United States," Ryabkov said.



Russia: Aircraft west of Euphrates River are 'targets'


The Russian Defense Ministry said it would exert new control over the skies of western Syria.

"From now on, in areas where Russian aviation performs combat missions in the skies of Syria, any airborne objects found west of the Euphrates River, including aircraft and unmanned vehicles belonging to the international coalition, tracked by means of Russian land and air anti-aircraft defense, will be considered air targets," the Defense Ministry statement reads.

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Coalition forces released a response within hours of the Kremlin statements.

"As a result of recent encounters involving pro Syrian regime and Russian forces, we have taken prudent measures to reposition aircraft over Syria so as to continue targeting ISIS forces while ensuring the safety of our aircrews given known threats in the battle space," coalition spokesman Col. Ryan Dillon told CNN.

"We are continuing to conduct operations throughout Syria targeting ISIS forces and providing air support for coalition forces and our partner forces on the ground," Dillon said. "We as a coalition are always ready to deconflict."



An escalated threat



A defense official told CNN the belief is the potential threat has escalated given recent encounters with pro-regime forces near At Tanf, as well as the downing of the Syrian aircraft.

In Washington, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Joseph Dunford, said communication between Russia and the US remains open.

Dunford said the US is working "diplomatically and militarily to reestablish a "de-confliction" channel.

"I am also confident that our forces have the capability to take care of themselves," Dunford added. "The worst thing any of us can do right now is to address this thing with hyperbole."

This is not the first time that Russia has said the "de-confliction" channel has been suspended. In April, after the US missile strike on a Syrian airbase, Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Russia would suspend the 2015 agreement aimed at minimizing risks of in-flight incidents.

The US military is prohibited by law from coordinating directly with the Russian military, but given the increased pace and scale of military operations in Syria, the US and Russia have sought ways to ensure that their respective personnel are not targeted by mistake, setting up a series of so-called "de-confliction zones" that delineate areas of operation for the coalition and the Russian forces.



Analysts see positioning


With ISIS now significantly weakened, analysts believe all all parties in Syria are maneuvering to consolidate their positions for an eventual settlement of the conflict.

Jeremy Binnie, Middle East and Africa editor for Jane's Defence Weekly, says the players in Syria are now operating with "half an eye on the post-Islamic State situation," and looking to control as much territory as possible.

Related: Explaining the complex crisis in Syria

Russia could work to de-escalate the situation, but Moscow is "looking increasingly less like an honest mediator between the sides," he says. "We don't know until we see how it plays out in reality, but it is definitely Russia making a pretty strong statement in favor of the Assad government."

Dmitry Trenin, director of the Carnegie Moscow Center, says the events of Sunday and Monday are a significant escalation, which could result in a "collision" between the two sides. To defuse the situation, he said, the US needs to begin to see Russia as a more equal partner in determining the future of Syria.

"It is time for diplomacy," he said.

CNN's Mary Ilyushina, Barbara Starr, Jill Dougherty and Emma Burrows contributed to this report.
Is Russia making empty threats at the US again? lol. Russia can obviously do damage to US military whenever she wants, but i think the repercussions are a deterrent from actual action.
 
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Is Russia making empty threats at the US again? lol. Russia can obviously do damage to US military whenever she wants, but i think the repercussions are a deterrent from actual action.

Empty because if they were actually targets, they would have shot one down by now.
 
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the UN recognized govt of Syria is the most legit govt in syria and thats better than Libya or nothing.

You mean the government that killed 100s of thousands of Syrians, and made millions into refugees.
In what way is that better than the anarchy of Libya where a few thousands have died.
The fact is that almost everything is better thst the current situation in Syria.
 
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You mean the government that killed 100s of thousands of Syrians, and made millions into refugees.
In what way is that better than the anarchy of Libya where a few thousands have died.
The fact is that almost everything is better thst the current situation in Syria.
No,No
Rebels are behind most of Syrian casualties.

The Syrian government control most of the Syria population and many Syrians migrant from rebel hold territory to government areas.

You are totally fooled by Western media my friend.
 
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No,No
Rebels are behind most of Syrian casualties.

The Syrian government control most of the Syria population and many Syrians migrant from rebel hold territory to government areas.

You are totally fooled by Western media my friend.

You are watching too much PressTV...
 
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Though I am not fond of sectarian violence spread by both KSA and Iran, yet unable to understand that 74% of the entire population of Syria is Sunni meanwhile Christians also have sizable population, as claimed by KSA, USA and allies the Syrian Govt was hostile towards Sunnis and Christians then how the hell so called rebellion never got majority population support meanwhile Syrian army still has most resources intact despite unlimited attacks by West/Arab allies.
To me it should be impossible for an army to have sizable presence if it has major portion of people from part population which is discriminated by the Govt.

May be people from west should open eyes and raise unnecessary blood shed imposed by West Govt's with support from few dumb Arab allies.

Similarly Iran and Shia Millitias should stop genocide of Sunnis in Iraq. The main reason ISIS flourished in Iraq was the harsh treatment faced by Sunnis after change of Govt.
 
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As advised before, avoid use of any text other than standard format. Hopefully, wouldn't be needed to remind again.

Thanks.


Where does it say in the forum rule that I cannot use bold format? The argument that it looks like I'm shouting doesn't hold water. Look at this statement, "Dhaka is a 400 hundred year old city. It is the capital of BD." Do you really think I'm shouting here.
Now, look at this statement, "I'm tired and I'm not going to listen to your complaints or I'm tired and I'm not going listen to your complaints." In this case the bold part or the text with different size denote shouting. So, you see you don't even have to use bold to indicate shouting. Some of the members have been using this excuse to shut me up, that's how I see it.

@Horus
 
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