US biggest ‘threat’ to China, says top Chinese military expert

[ptldM3]

Why all the hate? The US has done some bad thing (Iraq war) but the US does alot of good too; lets for instance, look at all of the money the US donates--Billions, lets look at all of the disaster releif the US provides (it's substancially more than any other country). One can make the argument that the US has caused countless deaths in the wars it thought--which is true but the government is not souly responsible for calateral damage due to poor inteligence or a group of wreckless soldiers. To say the US should calapes is silly. The US and a select few countries keeps every one else in check and without that the world be full moron like Saddam. Also alot of people seem to forget that the US is an economic power which benifits many countries such as China.

 

[below_freezing]

Why all the hate? The US has done some bad thing (Iraq war) but the US does alot of good too; lets for instance, look at all of the money the US donates--Billions, lets look at all of the disaster releif the US provides (it's substancially more than any other country). One can make the argument that the US has caused countless deaths in the wars it though-- which is true but the government is not souly responsible for calateral damage due to poor inteligence or a group of wreckless soldiers. To say the US should calapes is silly. The US and a select few countries keeps every one else in check and without that the world be full moron like Saddam. Also alot of people seem to forget that the US is an economic power which benifits many countries such as China.

interesting. russians think that having a leg cut off and then being mugged by the US once isn't enough. russia's territory shrunk by half in 1991. how long until there's nothing left but moscow?

 

[ptldM3]

interesting. russians think that having a leg cut off and then being mugged by the US once isn't enough. russia's territory shrunk by half in 1991. how long until there's nothing left but moscow?

It wasn't our territory to begin with and the US loaned us money to rebuild. Our family and many other families suffered under communism, much of my family was put into prison and harrased just for being Christian and all of our things were taken away. It is a good thing that communism calapes, sure life was bad in the 90's but now the economy has recovered and thing are much better for the average citizen, now people can actually own bussinesses and have nice things without fear of getting it taken away.

 

[gambit]

interesting. russians think that having a leg cut off and then being mugged by the US once isn't enough. russia's territory shrunk by half in 1991. how long until there's nothing left but moscow?

This proves the imperialism mentality of the Chinese communists fanboys here -- That if communism conquer, it is good. But if the conquered territories gained back their independence, it is shameful for the once conqueror.

 

[Frankenstein]

Seems lyk China is the only country left who can make eye to eye contact with US Government

 

[scuthan]

This proves the imperialism mentality of the Chinese communists fanboys here -- That if communism conquer, it is good. But if the conquered territories gained back their independence, it is shameful for the once conqueror.

Few Chinese people believe in communism, neither am I. None of the people I know believe this idea. We respected Mao for what he achieve in transferring an anarchic and chaotic country (like today's Afghanistan) into a modern country (where things are regulated and basic human dignity is guaranteed), but today's chinese people don't want to live in his time any more. CCP try to make chinese people consciously forget Mao and the world he created. today's china is in no way even remotely resemble communism. it is a paradise of capitalism and the elites of this society fear communism and socialism more than any other countries. chinese member here are not necessarily fans of comunism, they are against America's intervention in other countries' affairs purely for its own sake but in the name of democracy.

 

[Nima]

Why all the hate? The US has done some bad thing (Iraq war) but the US does alot of good too; lets for instance, look at all of the money the US donates--Billions, lets look at all of the disaster releif the US provides (it's substancially more than any other country). One can make the argument that the US has caused countless deaths in the wars it thought--which is true but the government is not souly responsible for calateral damage due to poor inteligence or a group of wreckless soldiers. To say the US should calapes is silly. The US and a select few countries keeps every one else in check and without that the world be full moron like Saddam. Also alot of people seem to forget that the US is an economic power which benifits many countries such as China.

It wasn't our territory to begin with and the US loaned us money to rebuild. Our family and many other families suffered under communism, much of my family was put into prison and harrased just for being Christian and all of our things were taken away. It is a good thing that communism calapes, sure life was bad in the 90's but now the economy has recovered and thing are much better for the average citizen, now people can actually own bussinesses and have nice things without fear of getting it taken away.

well you answered your own question.
You like them because your country is in a better situation in your opinion.
I as an Iranian feel nothing but hate for them. It was 1954 when the CIA orchestrated a coup to outs our democratically elected president. We fought hard to get rid of the monarchy and they reinstated the monarchy again. In the end there was only one group strong enough to defeat them and that was the religious fucks that are in power today. If we had our own way back then, the people wouldn't resort to backing a bunch of religious goons.

now apply this to a million other countries.

 

[ao333]

It wasn't our territory to begin with and the US loaned us money to rebuild. Our family and many other families suffered under communism, much of my family was put into prison and harrased just for being Christian and all of our things were taken away. It is a good thing that communism calapes, sure life was bad in the 90's but now the economy has recovered and thing are much better for the average citizen, now people can actually own bussinesses and have nice things without fear of getting it taken away.

I'll have a totally different view of Russians, if this is how most of you feel.

So in your opinion, the US should lay missile defends shields over Europe and admit Kazakhstan into NATO? The yankees are cornering you up and all you're doing is pumping more oil from your ground. Being the 38th spender in military, with no commercial innovations, you guys're just eating off of your ancestors' accomplishments.

And here I thought the progressing authoritarianism was a sign of the USSR rediscovering its past glories...

 

[mDumb]

<Why all the hate? The US has done some bad thing (Iraq war) but the US does alot of good too; lets for instance, look at all of the money the US donates--Billions, lets look at all of the disaster releif the US provides (it's substancially more than any other country). One can make the argument that the US has caused countless deaths in the wars it thought--which is true but the government is not souly responsible for calateral damage due to poor inteligence or a group of wreckless soldiers. To say the US should calapes is silly. The US and a select few countries keeps every one else in check and without that the world be full moron like Saddam. Also alot of people seem to forget that the US is an economic power which benifits many countries such as China.>

Are you living in the dark?

< look at all of the money the US donates--Billions, lets look at all of the disaster releif the US provides (it's substancially more than any other country).>
They are with strings attached (it's called soft power). Here is the irony, the US is so engrossed with the so called humanitarian sh*t that they forget to help their own people. Remember the hurricane Katrina fiasco in Louisiana?

<To say the US should calapes is silly.>
It is inevitable that the US will also disappear just like other great nations (read the world history).

<without that the world be full moron like Saddam.>
Who is more moronic Saddam or George Bush and Collin Powell?
George Bush was convinced that Iraq possessed WMD. Colin Powell went to the UN to convince the world that Iraq possessed WMD. Well, did the US military ever find WMD?

<. Also alot of people seem to forget that the US is an economic power which benifits many countries such as China.>
It's a symbiotic relationship. China provides cheap goods to the US so that people who earn minimum wage can afford to buy them. Also, China buys Treasury Bonds which finances the US economy.

 

[below_freezing]

I'll have a totally different view of Russians, if this is how most of you feel.

So in your opinion, the US should lay missile defends shields over Europe and admit Kazakhstan into NATO? The yankees are cornering you up and all you're doing is pumping more oil from your ground. Being the 38th spender in military, with no commercial innovations, you guys're just eating off of your ancestors' accomplishments.

And here I thought the progressing authoritarianism was a sign of the USSR rediscovering its past glories...

Let him be. the USSR was one of the greatest countries on earth, but looking at the russian mentality now, it is clear that their time has passed. it won't be long before russia is relegated to a 2nd rate role in the world like UK or France. funny how he can say that the economy got better. at least the USSR did not resort to shamefully selling natural resources for its wealth.

It wasn't our territory to begin with and the US loaned us money to rebuild. Our family and many other families suffered under communism, much of my family was put into prison and harrased just for being Christian and all of our things were taken away. It is a good thing that communism calapes, sure life was bad in the 90's but now the economy has recovered and thing are much better for the average citizen, now people can actually own bussinesses and have nice things without fear of getting it taken away.

So when is outer manchuria gettings its independence? it's not yours either.

 

[TheMiddleMan]

Let him be. the USSR was one of the greatest countries on earth, but looking at the russian mentality now, it is clear that their time has passed. it won't be long before russia is relegated to a 2nd rate role in the world like UK or France. funny how he can say that the economy got better. at least the USSR did not resort to shamefully selling natural resources for its wealth.

Are you Stupid???
Clearly you are living in a fantasy world

 

[gpit]

<No. I don&#8217;t think US should collapse since it will generate a disaster as the world power structure left vacuum,>

Dude, the world could be a better place without the US getting its dirty hands in somebody's backyard.

If the US collapses the world would not collapse and another country would take its place. Read the history. Many powerful countries, empires, kingdoms have collapsed and the world is still revolving.

So, don't give me sh*t about the US saves the world. The US only cares its interests only. The US population is 1/4th of China or India and yet they consume natural resources more than India and China together. Is the US saving the world in this example?

CPC has its dirty hands all over China! it neglects the environment, human rights... If CPC collaps today will Chinese people in general be better?

No! The Chinese will only be worse off.

But if CPC declines slowly and vanishes eventually, I guess it will be better off for the people than a sudden collaps.

For the same token, if US is slowly declining and eventually vanishes, it will nor impact the world as much.

There is nothing jingoism.

Back to the topic. Yes, if measured in power and potential of war, US is the only thread to China. But if we analyze the threads, the untimate thread to China is potentially CPC/Chinese government: how can they sustain the support of the people, even the incoming disparaty, remove porverty, have people&#8217;s grievances heard (so no more child stabbing), heal the damage to the environment, etc, etc&#8230;?

 

[no_name]

It is said that if you don't wish to get ill, you have to be healthy first.

So to prevent outside agression, best way is to strengthen the country from within.

US has focused alot on projecting power outside. They should also focus more on internal matters such as healthcare, economic reform and social issues.

 

[below_freezing]

CPC has its dirty hands all over China! it neglects the environment, human rights... If CPC collaps today will Chinese people in general be better?

No! The Chinese will only be worse off.

But if CPC declines slowly and vanishes eventually, I guess it will be better off for the people than a sudden collaps.

For the same token, if US is slowly declining and eventually vanishes, it will nor impact the world as much.

There is nothing jingoism.

Back to the topic. Yes, if measured in power and potential of war, US is the only thread to China. But if we analyze the threads, the untimate thread to China is potentially CPC/Chinese government: how can they sustain the support of the people, even the incoming disparaty, remove porverty, have people&#8217;s grievances heard (so no more child stabbing), heal the damage to the environment, etc, etc&#8230;?

use logic, and don't go with the flow. has there been another chinese government in the last 500 years to have the achievements of CPC? no. there hasnt. no one wants to gamble with CENTURIES of progress on the line. there rarely are 2 good governments in a row within 500 years. dont let personal feelings get into this; my grandpa was a victim of the cultural revolution and spent 15 years in prison for no reason, but as a history teacher he understands now (not at the time though) that it's a minor mistake compared to the accomplishments.

 

[Sino-PakFriendship]

But China is the biggest 'threat' to world

What's threat?

The history tell us that the Western Whites are the threat to China.

We don't forget 1842-1945.