UN Arms Embargo against Iran is lifting!!

[crankthatskunk]

There is talk that UN is about to lift the Arms Embargo against Iran.

Russians are already in negotiation with Iran for their future purchases.
There is talk that Iran is interested to buy Su 30/35.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1261732704426569728

Are their any such progressions in the pipeline!!

If UN Arms Embargo on Iran is lifted, Saudi Arabia and UAE would directly be affected.
Considering USA has already started to move some of their equipment from SA.
SA would be heavily leaning on Pakistan for support.

Pakistan is in a great position to get maximum benefits from the Arabs. This time not for peanuts but for substantial stakes in the region. We have to stand up and rise up.
How long we have to take orders from SA and UAE !!

This is also time to counter Indian influence in the Middle East.

The problem is our Politicians are extremely incompetent. They don't have the foresight or the planning and implementation skills to formulate and execute a cohesive and comprehensive policy in the Middle East.

We just respond to the crisis, rather than have our strategies in place.

 

[QWECXZ]

Are their any such progressions in the pipeline!!

Although you used pipeline in a different context with a different meaning, but I have to remind you that as long as the Iran-Pakistan pipeline is not finished, there will be no way for Iran to trust Pakistan.
Iran's side of the pipeline has been finished since 2012, but 8 years later Pakistan has failed to finish her side of it. Pakistan was supposed to finish her side of the pipeline by December 2014 and yet it hasn't done anything on her side to proceed with the contract.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

Although you used pipeline in a different context with a different meaning, but I have to remind you that as long as the Iran-Pakistan pipeline is not finished, there will be no way for Iran to trust Pakistan.
Iran's side of the pipeline has been finished since 2012, but 8 years later Pakistan has failed to finish her side of it. Pakistan was supposed to finish her side of the pipeline by December 2014 and yet it hasn't done anything on her side to proceed with the contract.

But I have to remind you that as long as Chahbahar and border areas of Iran are used by India to destablize Pakistan and Iran allow it to happen like Kulbushan , Uzair Baloch , Baloch terrorists , there will be no way for Pakistan to trust Iran . Not to mention stoking sectarian fighting in Pakistan and other Muslims countries both by KSA and Iran .

 

[QWECXZ]

But I have to remind you that as long as Chahbahar and border areas of Iran are used by India to destablize Pakistan and Iran allow it to happen like Kulbushan , Uzair Baloch , Baloch terrorists , there will be no way for Pakistan to trust Iran . Not to mention stoking sectarian fighting in Pakistan and other Muslims countries both by KSA and Iran .

And I have to remind you that the thread is about the possibility of Pakistan's military trade with Iran after the UN embargo. Not Iran approaching Pakistan for military trade. So, you got the subject of the thread reversed.

Other than that, you know very well that our military partners remain Russia, China, Syria and Venezuela and we are not really thinking about Pakistan as an option for buying from or selling to. And it's funny that even though you admit that the KSA is behind sectarian fights in Pakistan, the long-term Pakistani behavior has shown that you trust them well.

And there's no need to repeat that Baluch separatists group in Iran have been residing on the Pakistani side of the border and launching deadly attacks on our military personnel and civilians since decades ago. In fact, if anyone is to be accused, Pakistan started this game long before Iran allegedly started it.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Although you used pipeline in a different context with a different meaning, but I have to remind you that as long as the Iran-Pakistan pipeline is not finished, there will be no way for Iran to trust Pakistan.
Iran's side of the pipeline has been finished since 2012, but 8 years later Pakistan has failed to finish her side of it. Pakistan was supposed to finish her side of the pipeline by December 2014 and yet it hasn't done anything on her side to proceed with the contract.

well, if anything, I suggested that Pakistan this time get close to SA and UAE, chalk out defence deals, with use of each other's hardware in the time of wars, intelligence and force sharing etc. to bolster common defences. A proper military pact.
This all to counter Iran in the region.
We are not stupid to trust Iran after proofs after proofs of their involvement to fan the insurgency and terror activities in Pakistan in cahoot with India. You have made your bed are lying in it with India. Is there any doubts about it!!

I am all in favour that Pakistan get tough with Iran and give them a clear message, if they continue to help India to cause unrest in Pakistan. Pakistan would attack their interests, take action inside Iran. Provide Iranian Baluch full support, training and arms to breakaway from Iran.

Actually Iran has to be broken in to different countries. You have done enough crimes with your minorities, especially against the Sunni Kurds and Baluch. Don't try to fool me with BS I have Iranian friends including Iranian Kurds, they tell me horror stories.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

And I have to remind you that the thread is about the possibility of Pakistan's military trade with Iran after the UN embargo. Not Iran approaching Pakistan for military trade. So, you got the subject of the thread reversed.

Other than that, you know very well that our military partners remain Russia, China, Syria and Venezuela and we are not really thinking about Pakistan as an option for buying from or selling to. And it's funny that even though you admit that the KSA is behind sectarian fights in Pakistan, the long-term Pakistani behavior has shown that you trust them well.

And there's no need to repeat that Baluch separatists group in Iran have been residing on the Pakistani side of the border and launching deadly attacks on our military personnel and civilians since decades ago. In fact, if anyone is to be accused, Pakistan started this game long before Iran allegedly started it.

we don't trust KSA and Iran or UAE . Nor we can sell or purchase any weapon to/from an Indian friend i.e Iran ( as u say your military partners are other countries ) We are looking for new friends like Malaysia , Russia and Qatar while our friendship getting stronger with each passing day with China , Turkey and Italy . Sectarian fight all over the Muslim World is due to Iran and KSA . Don't worry we will finish ur so called alleged game as these are not T20 matches . Sometimes i think Sanctions , Firing n drowning own Ships , Covid-19 deaths , LT Gen or Maj Gen ( Sulaimani ) killed in other country , Shooting civilian Plane , military or govt militia members killed in Syria e.t.c are ALLAH Signs for Iran to stop diving Muslims on Sects and for KSA as well signs are emerging from ALLAH to stop dividing Muslims .

 

[QWECXZ]

well, if anything, I suggested that Pakistan this time get close to SA and UAE, chalk out defence deals, with use of each other's hardware in the time of wars, intelligence and force sharing etc. to bolster common defences. A proper military pact.
This all to counter Iran in the region.
We are not stupid to trust Iran after proofs after proofs of their involvement to fan the insurgency and terror activities in Pakistan in cahoot with India. You have made your bed are lying in it with India. Is there any doubts about it!!

I am all in favour that Pakistan get tough with Iran and give them a clear message, if they continue to help India to cause unrest in Pakistan. Pakistan would attack their interests, take action inside Iran. Provide Iranian Baluch full support, training and arms to breakaway from Iran.

Actually Iran has to be broken in to different countries. You have done enough crimes with your minorities, especially against the Sunni Kurds and Baluch. Don't try to fool me with BS I have Iranian friends including Iranian Kurds, they tell me horror stories.

If anything, you have to know that historically Iran has claims over Pakistan as it was the British that annexed Pakistan from Iran because they wanted to secure their investments in India. So, if one day Pakistan wants to annex anything from Iran, don't forget that we can have claims over your entire country.

And Iran has sent official documents to Pakistan citing the residence of terrorist groups acting against Iran's security in there. We did it several times since the rise of Jundullah in Iranian Baluchistan because we knew they were residing in Pakistan and we had proof. And we did it officially. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pakistan hasn't done the same. Have you guys given us any coordinates of Baluch terrorists residing in Iran? Has Imran Khan officially accused Iran? I know that some Pakistani officials believe that Baluch insurgents in Pakistan are in fact inside Pakistan. We gave you coordinates of Baluch terrorists residing in your country several times and requested you to cooperate with us and allow our troops chase those terrorists inside Pakistan. You never accepted it. I don't see what moral grounds you think you have now.

we don't trust KSA and Iran or UAE . Nor we can sell or purchase any weapon to/from an Indian friend i.e Iran ( as u say your military partners are other countries ) We are looking for new friends like Malaysia , Russia and Qatar while our friendship getting stronger with each passing day with China , Turkey and Italy . Sectarian fight all over the Muslim World is due to Iran and KSA . Don't worry we will finish ur so called alleged game as these are not T20 matches . Sometimes i think Sanctions , Firing n drowning own Ships , Covid-19 deaths , LT Gen or Maj Gen ( Sulaimani ) killed in other country , Shooting civilian Plane , military or govt militia members killed in Syria e.t.c are ALLAH Signs for Iran to stop diving Muslims on Sects and for KSA as well signs are emerging from ALLAH to stop dividing Muslims .

Well, I don't know if you trust them or not, but Pakistan sure tries her best to prove her friendship and loyalty to the Saudis. It has happened several times.

You are ridiculous. Pakistan is in a far worse situation than Iran. If you want to bring Allah into politics to justify spewing hate, I'm sure Allah has been punishing Pakistanis a lot more than Iranians because the overall situation in Pakistan is far, far worse than Iran.

You are ranked 152nd in Human Development Index, Iran is ranked 66th. See the difference? You have had regular terrorist attacks in your country almost every year. Poverty in Pakistan is much worse than it will ever be in Iran. The US literally crushed your pride by bombing you and you didn't dare to do anything about their drone attacks. What makes you think that Allah favors Pakistan over Iran when you are in a far worse situation? LOL

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

Well, I don't know if you trust them or not, but Pakistan sure tries her best to prove her friendship and loyalty to the Saudis. It has happened several times.

Iran is friend with India While India is friend or strategic partner of Israel (always ) so it means your loyalty lies with India/Israel . U are a thankless country , the day we start siding with KSA against Your country you will be crying but we are not like you who bleed or divide Muslims on sects .

You have had regular terrorist attacks in your country almost every year. Poverty in Pakistan is much worse than it will ever be in Iran. The US literally crushed your pride by bombing you and you didn't dare to do anything about their drone attacks. What makes you think that Allah favors Pakistan over Iran when you are in a far worse situation?

There has been no drone attacks in Pakistan from almost 18 Months , We helped Taliban and they in return are much stronger now then trump Called our PM and we helped USA sign a deal , We Pakistanis are a bit late to react like we ignored Pakistan Afghanistan border management from 1947-2011 and now results with the help of ALLAH are infront of Us . We Succeeded with ALLAH's blessing . Where are drone attacks ??? Alhamdulillah nowhere . Now we are focusing on Pakistan-Iran border management , but don't worry your Israeli friend will buy some oil from you .

You are ranked 152nd in Human Development Index, Iran is ranked 66th. See the difference?

Your President begged our PM to lobby for your country to lift sanctions on you . Speaks desperation .
# You can reply but i will not reply again , because u are in mourning for your General Sulaimani , Ship members, and members killed in Syria e.t.c so i can understand . Take care .

 

[QWECXZ]

Iran is friend with India While India is friend or strategic partner of Israel (always ) so it means your loyalty lies with India/Israel . U are a thankless country , the day we start siding with KSA against Your country you will be crying but we are not like you who bleed or divide Muslims on sects .

There has been no drone attacks in Pakistan from almost 18 Months , We helped Taliban and in return are m , tuch stronger now then trump Called our PM and we helped USA signed a deal , We Pakistanis are a bit late to react like we ignored Pakistan Afghanistan border management from 1947-2011 and now results with the help of ALLAH are infront of Us . We Succeeded with ALLAH's blessing . Where are drone attacks ??? Alhamdulillah nowhere . Now we are focusing on Pakistan-Iran border management , but don't worry your Israeli friend will buy some oil from you .

Your President begged our PM to lobby for your country to lift sanctions on you . Speaks desperation .
#You can write replies but i will not reply again , because u are in mourning for your General Sulaimani , Ship members, and members killed in Syria e.t.c so i can understand . Take care .

Well, Pakistan and KSA are friends and MBS has openly embraced Israel and the KSA isn't even ashamed of admitting it anymore. So, Pakistan is in bed with Israel.

You don't divide Muslims by sect? Your whole country is divided by sect and you're killing each other for it. Do I need to remind you of Parachinar bombings?

I don't see how helping a group of militants who sent Afghanistan decades back and committed horrendous crimes against Afghans and Afghan women is something to be proud of.

Wrong. Your Prime Minister wanted us to allow you to play a role in it. Trump had requested Japan to mediate between Iran and the US and Japan is a much heavier weight in international relations than Pakistan. It was your Prime Minister that visited Iran without an official invitation. Talk about desperate. lol The problem here is that when you talk about me mourning Soleimani that's just a fantasy but when I talk about poverty and underdevelopment in Pakistan being far, far worse than Iran, those are facts supported by numbers.

 

[CHI RULES]

And I have to remind you that the thread is about the possibility of Pakistan's military trade with Iran after the UN embargo. Not Iran approaching Pakistan for military trade. So, you got the subject of the thread reversed.

Other than that, you know very well that our military partners remain Russia, China, Syria and Venezuela and we are not really thinking about Pakistan as an option for buying from or selling to. And it's funny that even though you admit that the KSA is behind sectarian fights in Pakistan, the long-term Pakistani behavior has shown that you trust them well.

And there's no need to repeat that Baluch separatists group in Iran have been residing on the Pakistani side of the border and launching deadly attacks on our military personnel and civilians since decades ago. In fact, if anyone is to be accused, Pakistan started this game long before Iran allegedly started it.

You should check facts and then accuse Pakistan. The terrorists on Pakistan side continuously use Iran/Afghan routes to escape, many terrorists came from Iran to Pakistan, you cannot deny Kulbushan a senior Army officer in the past was retired from services when proofs were handed over to Iran Govt. Regi was caught by help of Pakistan, Iran got full support of Pakistan during Iran Iraq war. You should blame your sectarian based mindset just like KSA for not having smooth relationship with Pakistan. It was Pakistan who categorically denied any facilitation to Iran separatists despite pressure from USA.

There are elements in Iran which by force want to turn whole Islamic world into Shia but it is not possible by force. Now your Govt which was short while ago was totally pro India has tilted towards Pakistan after India has stopped all sorts of trade with Iran.

You should check facts and then accuse Pakistan. The terrorists on Pakistan side continuously use Iran/Afghan routes to escape, many terrorists came from Iran to Pakistan, you cannot deny Kulbushan a senior Army officer in the past was retired from services when proofs were handed over to Iran Govt. Regi was caught by help of Pakistan, Iran got full support of Pakistan during Iran Iraq war. You should blame your sectarian based mindset just like KSA for not having smooth relationship with Pakistan. It was Pakistan who categorically denied any facilitation to Iran separatists despite pressure from USA.

There are elements in Iran which by force want to turn whole Islamic world into Shia but it is not possible by force. Now your Govt which was short while ago was totally pro India has tilted towards Pakistan after India has stopped all sorts of trade with Iran.

The sectarian rift is thanks to KSA and Iran otherwise general public is quite peaceful and after Musharaf's strict policy to eliminate sectarian terrorists the sectarian plans have failed.

 

[QWECXZ]

You should check facts and then accuse Pakistan. The terrorists on Pakistan side continuously use Iran/Afghan routes to escape, many terrorists came from Iran to Pakistan, you cannot deny Kulbushan a senior Army officer in the past was retired from services when proofs were handed over to Iran Govt. Regi was caught by help of Pakistan, Iran got full support of Pakistan during Iran Iraq war. You should blame your sectarian based mindset just like KSA for not having smooth relationship with Pakistan. It was Pakistan who categorically denied any facilitation to Iran separatists despite pressure from USA.

There are elements in Iran which by force want to turn whole Islamic world into Shia but it is not possible by force. Now your Govt which was short while ago was totally pro India has tilted towards Pakistan after India has stopped all sorts of trade with Iran.

There has been no proof or confirmation by the Iranian officials that Pakistan helped Iran in arresting Rigi. Rigi went to a Madrassa in Karachi which also educated many Taliban leaders. Iran requested Pakistan many times to allow our troops pass the border with their permission to chase and arrest separatists. Pakistan never granted such a permission to Iran while you never stopped Americans from violating your air space and sovereignty. Iran didn't have Pakistan's support during the Iraq-Iran war. As soon as Iraq invaded Iran, Pakistan deployed 40,000 soldiers in Saudi Arabia to protect them from Iran. I don't call that "full support".

India is an old civilization that has been friendly to Iran for thousands of years and our economic ties with them are normal like many other countries. But it is interesting that Pakistanis never blame Turkey or Saudi Arabia for having economic ties with India. At least Iran's leader publicly condemned the mistreatment of Muslims in Kashmir. What did your Arab friends do? They didn't even condemn it.

 

[crankthatskunk]

If anything, you have to know that historically Iran has claims over Pakistan as it was the British that annexed Pakistan from Iran because they wanted to secure their investments in India. So, if one day Pakistan wants to annex anything from Iran, don't forget that we can have claims over your entire country.

And Iran has sent official documents to Pakistan citing the residence of terrorist groups acting against Iran's security in there. We did it several times since the rise of Jundullah in Iranian Baluchistan because we knew they were residing in Pakistan and we had proof. And we did it officially. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Pakistan hasn't done the same. Have you guys given us any coordinates of Baluch terrorists residing in Iran? Has Imran Khan officially accused Iran? I know that some Pakistani officials believe that Baluch insurgents in Pakistan are in fact inside Pakistan. We gave you coordinates of Baluch terrorists residing in your country several times and requested you to cooperate with us and allow our troops chase those terrorists inside Pakistan. You never accepted it. I don't see what moral grounds you think you have now.

This is the first. Iran has claims over Pakistan!! Really.
You need to wake up man. Seriously, seriously.
Pakistan help you capture the Jundullah leader. You can only in dreams chase people inside Pakistan.
Enough of your terrorism all around middle east, you should be brought to your size.
Pakistan has sent a stern warning to you recently. We should definitely train, finance and support Baluchistan movement in Iran. Those should be over land.
You have made your intentions clear by helping India in Chabhar to give India access and leverage in Afghanistan. That leverage is facing dire challenges.
Only yesterday, Taliban have declared India as enemy and wow to start war against India in Afghanistan.

 

[QWECXZ]

This is the first. Iran has claims over Pakistan!! Really.
You need to wake up man. Seriously, seriously.
Pakistan help you capture the Jundullah leader. You can only in dreams chase people inside Pakistan.
Enough of your terrorism all around middle east, you should be brought to your size.
Pakistan has sent a stern warning to you recently. We should definitely train, finance and support Baluchistan movement in Iran. Those should be over land.
You have made your intentions clear by helping India in Chabhar to give India access and leverage in Afghanistan. That leverage is facing dire challenges.
Only yesterday, Taliban have declared India as enemy and wow to start war against India in Afghanistan.

Well, your national anthem is basically in Persian. Imran Khan himself said in Tehran that if it weren't for the British occupiers, Pakistanis would've spoken Persian. History supports my claim that if anyone wants to have territorial claims over the other one, it is Iran that can make such claims. Not the other way around.

Well, it took you 12 years to help Iran arrest Rigi. That's too long. I don't understand why Pakistan thinks they had anything to do with arresting Rigi. Rigi was arrested flying from Dubai to Kazakhstan. What was the role of Pakistan in it? Rigi's communications with the Americans had been intercepted in Afghanistan which eventually led to tracing his flight from Dubai to Kazakhstan. What role Pakistan played there?

Are you OK with the fact that you have madrassas in Pakistan where you train future terrorists to kill civilians abroad? Rigi was the product of a madrassa in Karachi.

And even if Pakistan played a role, doesn't that prove that you were aware of Rigi's activities inside your territory but preferred to turn a blind eye to his atrocities and let him reside there?

 

[skyshadow]

when this happens it will be a great opportunity to start a corporation PK needs some Iranian weapons like air defenses and missiles maybe some drones and submarines some fast attack boats some well armed hovercraft's and attack helicopters and in turn Iran needs some block 3 fighters and small arms access to advance technology like some F-16s or some advanced attack helicopters.

15th of Khordad

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Raad 500

Shahed-129

Fateh

Zolfagar equipped with 2 anti ship cruise missiles and 2 torpedoes

 

[Rukarl]

Well, your national anthem is basically in Persian. Imran Khan himself said in Tehran that if it weren't for the British occupiers, Pakistanis would've spoken Persian. History supports my claim that if anyone wants to have territorial claims over the other one, it is Iran that can make such claims. Not the other way around.

Well, it took you 12 years to help Iran arrest Rigi. That's too long. I don't understand why Pakistan thinks they had anything to do with arresting Rigi. Rigi was arrested flying from Dubai to Kazakhstan. What was the role of Pakistan in it? Rigi's communications with the Americans had been intercepted in Afghanistan which eventually led to tracing his flight from Dubai to Kazakhstan. What role Pakistan played there?

Are you OK with the fact that you have madrassas in Pakistan where you train future terrorists to kill civilians abroad? Rigi was the product of a madrassa in Karachi.

And even if Pakistan played a role, doesn't that prove that you were aware of Rigi's activities inside your territory but preferred to turn a blind eye to his atrocities and let him reside there?

It is nice to remind these people what their true origins are. But having Indian,Arab,English,Persian fathers makes one a very confused person. So don't blame him, the Pakistani isn't probably aware that the name they are using to call him is infact originating from the very same country he is disrespecting.

Most Pakistanis are nice and cool though, just some of them are like this clown.