Ulfa chief slams planned border swap deal: report

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Zab,

I hate to cross swords with you!

Believe what you will.

But Peace is the only answer.

Confrontation is not!

 

[Zabaniyah]

Zab,

I hate to cross swords with you!

Believe what you will.

But Peace is the only answer.

Confrontation is not!

Sir, I never said anything about confrontation.

My only question is: Can India guarantee respect for Bangladesh's national security?

If it really isn't, there is no need for Bangladesh and India to go to all out war or something. Neither parties can afford it. And Bangladeshi aren't interested in living in the Pakistan-like era.

But it'll certainly pose a challenge for Bangladesh's foreign policy. As I have said before, there are plenty of powerful and technologically advanced nations out there with whom Bangladesh has good relations with, other than India.

India would remain as a neutral party in the eyes of Bangladesh and there isn't enough reasoning to be enemies since India has not been militarily aggressive.

Regarding the transit, it is economically feasible for Bangladesh and India as long as it isn't a military matter. So, no worries

But getting the full potential of the transit will take time. At least 7-10 years, given that political football doesn't hurt the development.

 

[saleen_s7]

The Pilkhana incident is so mysterious. And remember how a few ministers were immediately looking for a jamaati link? and Prime minister accused Khaleda zia because she "mysteriously" hid herself.
To believe the current official version of the story will be absurd because of blunders they made during the investigations. And most importantly why did Sheikh Hasina ban youtube and facebook if she truly had nothing to hide? And worst of all, the culprits are being tried in a military court which can only jail them for 7-8 years. If a case as big as this which killed so many people can be tried on a military court, why not the mujib case, which was undoubtedly a military coup?
And many of the investigators had to quit and was issued death threats which appeared on newspapers the day after. Even the AL supporters were accused of being a "conspiracy theorist" when they accused babar and them to have ULFA connections, and now it is the official story line. Our little country's history is packed with conspiracies so I wouldn't rule anything out so soon.

 

[kobiraaz]

just read a bangla article on an interview of Hamidullah Khan, sector commander of 11th sector during 1971 to Tehran Radio - he openly said that india is behind BDR incident..

 

[notsuperstitious]

Many believe that the AL clearly had something to do with it. Many AL leaders were jailed during the Caretaker Government. But many doubt if they did it all by themselves. They had help. I doubt if they have a organization and the brains to do it all by themselves. They can't even control the food prices now!

If controlling food prices is the criteria, then India is incapable of ANYTHING.

Seriously, if the BDR were discriminated against, then why do you think its difficult to understand the mutiny? Mutiny involves mob mentality and hence the horrific violence. Surely mutinies are always sparked by a small matter even a false rumor?

Besides, the BNP and other right wingers had an axe to grind against the military too, also people like banglabhai were hanged by that government, the same banglabhai that once khalida famously said ''did not exist''.

Hasina- a fresh PM and her incompetence / confusion is hardly an admission of guilt.

just read a bangla article on an interview of Hamidullah Khan, sector commander of 11th sector during 1971 to Tehran Radio - he openly said that india is behind BDR incident..

I think by oversight you forgot to mention this ''1971 sector commander'' is a BNP member of parliament???

Honest mistake.

 

[Zabaniyah]

If controlling food prices is the criteria, then India is incapable of ANYTHING.

Seriously, if the BDR were discriminated against, then why do you think its difficult to understand the mutiny? Mutiny involves mob mentality and hence the horrific violence. Surely mutinies are always sparked by a small matter even a false rumor?

Besides, the BNP and other right wingers had an axe to grind against the military too, also people like banglabhai were hanged by that government, the same banglabhai that once khalida famously said ''did not exist''.

Hasina- a fresh PM and her incompetence / confusion is hardly an admission of guilt.

Bro, what do food prices in India have to do with anything in Bangladesh? Nothing.

During Eid, traders were charging at whatever prices they wanted. That shows that the AL government is incapable of monitoring the food prices and supply chain. Yeah, talk about Socialism That is just one example. The current AL government have many incompetent ministers. In fact, this issue was raised during a live JS session.
AL lawmakers embarrassed

Now we don't see that going on in India do we? All it takes is a simple glimpse of reality.

Regarding the mutiny, you might find the following live recorded conversations between Hasina and the surviving officers. It is in Bangla.

Part 1:
[video]]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S0BwKDtQAjs[/video]

Part 2:

Part 3:

Part 4:

Part 5:

Now the question is, why didn't Hasina and Gen. Moeen send reinforcements in time even when the officers in trouble made the distress calls? And why did the AL government block youtube and facebook? The army base in Pikhana was commandeered by some of BA's most senior and brilliant officers. How can the jawans all of the sudden go on a rampage? The mutiny was highly organized, and professional. Nothing amateurish about it.

People are coming up with various conspiracy theories, keeping in mind that some high ranking BA officers opposed the transit deal for security and sovereignty concerns.

We should note that the transit idea did was not planned in advance since yesterday or day before yesterday. It was in fact in India's mind ever since the 70s. Giving direct access to NE India through Bangladesh would prove advantageous to India. And we know the NE India is not a very stable area. From Bangladesh's perspective, it is economically feasible.

And why did India support the Shanti Bahini? Someone was obviously thinking of stripping off CHT from Bangladesh. Peculiar ideas. Who knows what else is going on there.

Fully implementing the transit will take time. And India of-course has to worry about anti-AL groups and parties. That is one limitation. And trust me, the ULAF has much more powerful backers. Much of those weapons recovered during the Chittagong arms haul were made by Norico. India is just wasting its resources and time meddling in Bangladeshi affairs. And sometimes, it really helps to look at the bigger fish.

Until the Pilkhana matter is concluded through a thorough and transparent investigation, nothing will come about really. And until then, conspiracy theories will go on. The AL is not very popular at the moment. If one reads Bangladesh news, it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.

 

[brational]

ULFA Chief is Bangladeshi now a days.. Keep him with you and feed well. we r not concerned about the biggest FDI holder in BD. He is the curse for Assam.

 

[nForce]

You and some of banglaeshi members are all living in fools paradise . India cannot afford to take on a another ''Pakistan'' in this side and we cannot expect to withstand in front of a combine assault by Indian arm forces .

I don't think I advocate attacking Bangladesh.I was responding to someone who actually thinks Bangladesh can take over North-East India.Please refer to the post-chain before jumping the gun,from next time on.It will save a many of us a lot of trouble.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

just read a bangla article on an interview of Hamidullah Khan, sector commander of 11th sector during 1971 to Tehran Radio - he openly said that india is behind BDR incident..

The 'foreign hand' is the easiest way out of issues that one cannot explain!

And it is not that this ploy is used by BD alone.

One has to just notice how no longer India or Pakistan talk of the foreign hand and instead are looking into issues in a more pragmatic manner.

As far as blocking youtube or other means of information, it is nothing new, especially in countries where the Govt wants to keep a firm hand over their people. Take the instance of China.

 

[Maira La]

MOD: Ban their IP addresses. They can use only so many unique IP addresses before they run out of these.

 

[HK-47]

And why did India support the Shanti Bahini? Someone was obviously thinking of stripping off CHT from Bangladesh. Peculiar ideas. Who knows what else is going on there.

I think this was the reason elements from our military started supporting ULFA.Revenge of some kind and I can't blame them.It was a poor choice though.I would rather concentrated on the tribals rather than creating more trouble.

Peculiar ideas.

Originally, the award of the Boundary Commission was to be made public on 13 August. But Mountbatten was reluctant to make this public. According to Philip Ziegler, the author of Mountbatten's official biography, the case of the Chittagong Hill Tracts was uppermost in Mountbatten's mind. "He (Mountbatten) foresaw an Independence Day marred by rancour, Nehru boycotting the ceremonies, India born in an atmosphere not of euphoria but of angry resentment. So Mountbatten decided to announce the award only on 16 August when the celebrations were over. As Zeigler writes, "India's indignation at the award of the Chittagong Hill Tracts to Pakistan may have been a factor in making up Mountbatten's mind to keep the reports to himself till after independence".

Mountbatten was himself surprised by the ferocity of Sardar Patel's reaction to the issue. In his memoirs he wrote: "The one man I had regarded as a real statesman with both his feet firmly on the ground, and a man of honour whose word was his bond, had turned out to be as hysterical as the rest. Candidly I was amazed that such a terrific crisis should have blown up over so small a matter. However, I have been long enough in India to realise that major crises are by no means confined to big matters." Leonard Mosley in his book The Last Days of the British Raj puts it "This is a matter for Mountbatten's conscience.

Chittagong_Hill_Tracts

Best source I could find.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I think this was the reason elements from our military started supporting ULFA.Revenge of some kind and I can't blame them.It was a poor choice though.I would rather concentrated on the tribals rather than creating more trouble.

Indeed. Albeit a dangerously misinformed decision.

The ULFA is a well-funded organization. They have powerful backers. I suspect that the elements of our military and the previous BNP administration were bank-rolling on someone. There is no way they could have funded the ULFA all by themselves.

As to just who that someone is: that's a real mystery which still baffles me.

Originally, the award of the Boundary Commission was to be made public on 13 August. But Mountbatten was reluctant to make this public. According to Philip Ziegler, the author of Mountbatten's official biography, the case of the Chittagong Hill Tracts was uppermost in Mountbatten's mind. "He (Mountbatten) foresaw an Independence Day marred by rancour, Nehru boycotting the ceremonies, India born in an atmosphere not of euphoria but of angry resentment. So Mountbatten decided to announce the award only on 16 August when the celebrations were over. As Zeigler writes, "India's indignation at the award of the Chittagong Hill Tracts to Pakistan may have been a factor in making up Mountbatten's mind to keep the reports to himself till after independence".

Mountbatten was himself surprised by the ferocity of Sardar Patel's reaction to the issue. In his memoirs he wrote: "The one man I had regarded as a real statesman with both his feet firmly on the ground, and a man of honour whose word was his bond, had turned out to be as hysterical as the rest. Candidly I was amazed that such a terrific crisis should have blown up over so small a matter. However, I have been long enough in India to realise that major crises are by no means confined to big matters." Leonard Mosley in his book The Last Days of the British Raj puts it "This is a matter for Mountbatten's conscience.

Chittagong_Hill_Tracts

Best source I could find.

Makes sense. Irregardless, CHT is Bangladeshi territory. The Colonial and the Cold war era are long over. Hope some of those Indians behind key decisions understand that.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Indeed. Albeit a dangerously misinformed decision.

The ULFA is a well-funded organization. They have powerful backers. I suspect that the elements of our military and the previous BNP administration were bank-rolling on someone. There is no way they could have funded the ULFA all by themselves.

As to just who that someone is: that's a real mystery which still baffles me.



Makes sense. Irregardless, CHT is Bangladeshi territory. The Colonial and the Cold war era are long over. Hope some of those Indians behind key decisions understand that.

You are right as you normally are.

It is obvious that Bangladesh was only a facilitator.

 

[Tshering22]

BNP helped them. it is proven. they were given shelter and were supplied weapons with BNP's help from norinco, china. i dont know who provided money for those weapons.........

BNP is under the tutelage of Pakistan and China. They saw ULFA as a major source of irritation to us. But after years when economy picked up and Assamese people themselves were fed up with terrorist attacks by Paresh and the rest of ULFA cr@p, ULFA broke and splintered into fractured gangs and operated more like gundas instead of terrorists.

Now ULFA dying faster than one can spell their full name properly, this joker is complaining.

 

[Tshering22]

Indeed. Albeit a dangerously misinformed decision.

The ULFA is a well-funded organization. They have powerful backers. I suspect that the elements of our military and the previous BNP administration were bank-rolling on someone. There is no way they could have funded the ULFA all by themselves.

As to just who that someone is: that's a real mystery which still baffles me.



Makes sense. Irregardless, CHT is Bangladeshi territory. The Colonial and the Cold war era are long over. Hope some of those Indians behind key decisions understand that.

Which is why a cold payback is in the waiting for this. Europe is only suffering its karma of past centuries. You'll watch further disintegration and instability in the coming days as more and more European countries weaken.