Ukraine Prepares For War. Troops on High Alert

[telkon]

@telkon

Thanks for admitting that you have no clue about what you are replying to or writing. Maybe that explains why you do not understand that Mongols and Mongolia is NOT a Turkic state hence you cannot claim their 1 single World UNESCO Heritage site that is not a landscape. LOL.

Well, bon appétit. Make some scrambled eggs. It's good.



Do you really believe, contrary to genetic tests, history, the enormous geographical distance, culture etc., that the ordinary Turk is related to Koreans and Japanese across the world? Really?

What do you know about the genetics of Turkish people?

This might interest you and remember that genetic tests do not lie.

Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The proposed Altaic language family equals the Afro-Asiatic which Semitic languages are a branch of and Indo-European language family. Now millions upon millions of Africans, indigenous Latin Americans etc. speak Indo-European languages such as English, French, Spanish, Portuguese as their native tongue. Does that make them English, French, Spanish or Portuguese people? I hope you understand my point.

Similarily there are Black Africans in Nigeria who speak languages that belong to the Afro-Asiatic language family where Semitic belongs to and those people have no connection with Arab people of the ME. At least genetically.

Aha, squirm more. I'm confident that you'll make it LOL. And by the way, how are you desert camel herder linked genetically to dilmun and akkadians?

 

[al-Hasani]

No, im not saying anything, the wiki article just says that Korean and Japanese might be related to other Altaic languages, thats all.

Lets drop the duscussion im tired, im going to sleep.

I have not denied this. In fact I am posting the same article that you post. I never denied Altaic as being a proposed language family where Korean and Japanese is sometimes or often included. What I am against is the bombastic and empty claims of your countryman @Kaan who suddenly has decided to make it into one language family despite their being controversy. I mean that is not a serious discussion.

This might interest you and remember that genetic tests do not lie.

Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The proposed Altaic language family equals the Afro-Asiatic which Semitic languages are a branch of and Indo-European language family. Now millions upon millions of Africans, indigenous Latin Americans etc. speak Indo-European languages such as English, French, Spanish, Portuguese as their native tongue. Does that make them English, French, Spanish or Portuguese people? I hope you understand my point. Let alone Indo-Europeans.

Similarily there are Black Africans in Nigeria who speak languages that belong to the Afro-Asiatic language family where Semitic belongs to and those people have no connection with Arab people of the ME. At least genetically.

Even if we assume that the proposed Altaic family is 100% correct, which their are no proofs of, then what does this say in terms of genetics and culture? Not very much unless you will claim that Turkish culture is similar to Japanese.

Genetics is all that matters. Either you are related or not.

The genetic tests done on Turks show no relation to Japanese or Mongolian people.

That's all I am trying to get across to @Kaan but for some strange reason he has a hard time accepting this. Yet everyone that is a Semite is related genetically, culturally, linguistically etc. since we are all native to the ME and all of our people border each other.

Aha, squirm more. I'm confident that you'll make it LOL. And by the way, how are you desert camel herder linked genetically to dilmun and akkadians?

Dilmun and Akkadia were two ancient Semitic civilizations that were several thousands of years old (about 4000-5000 years old). Located in what is now Iraq, KSA and Bahrain.

What is it with you and camels? Why do you not talk about the world famous Arabian horse, Arabian Leopard, Arabian Gazelle, Cheetah or Lions that roamed around the Arab world and even in KSA until the early 1900's? What about the Arabian Oryx?
Camels are NOT native to the ME. They come from the Horn of Africa. Somalia and Australia have the largest wild camel populations. Camels are/were used by Turkic people and Mongolians and other people native to the Central Asian deserts and steppes.

Camels were among the most valuable animals before the introduction of planes, cars, trains etc. They were much more worthy than donkeys etc. Only horses had a similar worth. Camels helped built many civilizations and were used for long-distance traveling, in wars and as an animal for survival by many people. They are very useful animals. More useful than most. You could make dairy products out of their milk, clothes out of their wool or eat them when not using them for transporting goods or as a mean of transportation.

You do realize that cars, planes, trains etc. are fairly new Western inventions right? What do you think that your ancestors used before their introduction if not horses or camels? The two most sought after animals used for transportation and the most expensive ones.

Did a camel spit on you or what?

 

[Aarush]

(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin demanded and won his parliament's approval on Saturday to invade Ukraine, where the new government warned of war, put its troops on high alert and appealed to NATO for help.

Putin's open assertion of the right to send troops to a country of 46 million people on the ramparts of central Europe creates the biggest confrontation between Russia and the West since the Cold War.

Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, leading a government that took power after Moscow's ally Viktor Yanukovich fled a week ago, said Russian military action "would be the beginning of war and the end of any relations between Ukraine and Russia".

Acting President Oleksander Turchinov ordered troops to be placed on high combat alert. Foreign Minister Andriy Deshchytsya said he had met European and U.S. officials and sent a request to NATO to "examine all possibilities to protect the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine".

Putin's move was a direct rebuff to Western leaders who had repeatedly urged Russia not to intervene, including U.S. President Barack Obama, who just a day before had held a televised address to warn Moscow of "costs" if it acted.

Troops with no insignia on their uniforms but clearly Russian - some in vehicles with Russian number plates - have already seized Crimea, an isolated peninsula in the Black Sea where Moscow has a large military presence in the headquarters of its Black Sea Fleet. Kiev's new authorities have been powerless to stop them.

The Russian forces solidified their control of Crimea and unrest spread to other parts of Ukraine on Saturday. Pro-Russian demonstrators clashed, sometimes violently, with supporters of Ukraine's new authorities and raised the Russian flag over government buildings in several cities.

"This is probably the most dangerous situation in Europe since the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968," said a Western official on condition of anonymity. "Realistically, we have to assume the Crimea is in Russian hands. The challenge now is to deter Russia from taking over the Russian-speaking east of Ukraine."

Putin asked parliament to approve force "in connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots" and to protect the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea.

The upper house swiftly delivered a unanimous "yes" vote, shown live on television.

Western capitals scrambled for a response, but it was limited to words. A U.S. official said Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel had spoken to his Russian counterpart Sergei Shoigu. The official said there had been no change in U.S. military posture.

EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton urged Moscow not to send troops. Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt said this would be "clearly against international law". Czech President Milos Zeman likened the crisis to the 1968 invasion of Czechoslovakia.

"Urgent need for de-escalation in Crimea," tweeted NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen. "NATO allies continue to coordinate closely."

Putin said his request for authorization to use force in Ukraine would last "until the normalization of the socio-political situation in that country". His justification - the need to protect Russian citizens - was the same as he used to launch a 2008 invasion of Georgia, where Russian forces seized two breakaway regions and recognized them as independent.

FLAGS TORN DOWN

So far there has been no sign of Russian military action in Ukraine outside Crimea, the only part of the country with a Russian ethnic majority, which has often voiced separatist aims.

A potentially bigger risk would be conflict spreading to the rest of Ukraine, where the sides could not be easily kept apart.

Putin ready to invade Ukraine; Kiev warns of war| Reuters

 

[telkon]

I have not denied this. In fact I am posting the same article that you post. I never denied Altaic as being a proposed language family where Korean and Japanese is sometimes or often included. What I am against is the bombastic and empty claims of your countryman @Kaan who suddenly has decided to make it into one language family despite their being controversy. I mean that is not a serious discussion.

This might interest you and remember that genetic tests do not lie.

Turkish people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The proposed Altaic language family equals the Afro-Asiatic which Semitic languages are a branch of and Indo-European language family. Now millions upon millions of Africans, indigenous Latin Americans etc. speak Indo-European languages such as English, French, Spanish, Portuguese as their native tongue. Does that make them English, French, Spanish or Portuguese people? I hope you understand my point. Let alone Indo-Europeans.

Similarily there are Black Africans in Nigeria who speak languages that belong to the Afro-Asiatic language family where Semitic belongs to and those people have no connection with Arab people of the ME. At least genetically.

Even if we assume that the proposed Altaic family is 100% correct, which their are no proofs of, then what does this say in terms of genetics and culture? Not very much unless you will claim that Turkish culture is similar to Japanese.

Genetics is all that matters. Either you are related or not.

The genetic tests done on Turks show no relation to Japanese or Mongolian people.

That's all I am trying to get across to @Kaan but for some strange reason he has a hard time accepting this. Yet everyone that is a Semite is related genetically, culturally, linguistically etc. since we are all native to the ME and all of our people border each other.



Dilmun and Akkadia were two ancient Semitic civilizations that were several thousands of years old (about 4000-5000 years old). Located in what is now Iraq, KSA and Bahrain.

What is it with you and camels? Why do you not talk about the world famous Arabian horse, Arabian Leopard, Arabian Gazelle, Cheetah or Lions that roamed around the Arab world and even in KSA until the early 1900's? What about the Arabian Oryx?
Camels are NOT native to the ME. They come from the Horn of Africa. Somalia and Australia have the largest wild camel populations. Camels are/were used by Turkic people and Mongolians and other people native to the Central Asian deserts and steppes.

Camels were among the most valuable animals before the introduction of planes, cars, trains etc. They were much more worthy than donkeys etc. Only horses had a similar worth. Camels helped built many civilizations and were used for long-distances traveling, in wars, as a animal for survival by many people.
Did a camle spit on you or what?

Don't belly dance please. I know about dilmun and akkadians more than you. I studied assyriology remember? And dilmun is not semitic by the way. Don't post wiki links LOL. Answer the question. What is your genetic link with dilmun and akkadians?

 

[al-Hasani]

Don't belly dance please. I know about dilmun and akkadians more than you. I studied assyriology remember? And dilmun is not semitic by the way. Don't post wiki links LOL. Answer the question. What is your genetic link with dilmun and akkadians?

You are an clown.

Of course they were since at that time only Semitic civilizations exited on the Arabian Peninsula. Because people inhabiting those regions are their descendants and they cluster with each other and belong to the same haplogroups. I know much more about my regions history and people that you do let alone genetics. It's very easy. Besides both regions are bordering each other.

Modern day Turks of which most are mostly indigenous and ironically belonging to many of the haplogroups that Arabs do and other NATIVE ME people, have obviously NO genetic relation to Koreans and Japanese.

Haplogroup J-P209 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Every geneticists would laugh in your face if you told him or her so but you have no idea about genetics so that's a pointless debate.

 

[victor07]

Ukrainian flagship fregate Getman Sagaidachny returning from mission in Aden Gulf refused to fulfil orders from new Ukrainian defence minister and raised Russian naval flag!

Украинский фрегат «Гетман Сагайдачный» перешёл на сторону России | RT на русском

 

[telkon]

You are an clown.

Of course they were since at that time only Semitic civilizations exited on the Arabian Peninsula. Because people inhabiting those regions are their descendants and they cluster with each other and belong to the same haplogroups. I know much more about my regions history and people that you do let alone genetics. It's very easy. Besides both regions are bordering each other.

Modern day Turks of which most are mostly indigenous and ironically belonging to many of the haplogroups that Arabs do and other NATIVE ME people, have obviously NO genetic relation to Koreans and Japanese.

Haplogroup J-P209 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Every geneticists would laugh in your face if you told him or her so but you have no idea about genetics so that's a pointless debate.

Yada yada bla bla. Aren't you tired of that j-p209 trick LOL. If you try a little harder you'll become the belly dancer of the year show me something that tells akkadians (I'm not including dilmun, for its not semitic) have this and this y haplogroup or that mtDNA that you share with them. And don't post wiki links, I don't read them. Because as I told you before, they're the losers way of looking knowledgeable without proper education LOL

 

[al-Hasani]

Yada yada bla bla. Aren't you tired of that j-p209 trick LOL. If you try a little harder you'll become the belly dancer of the year show me something that tells akkadians (I'm not including dilmun, for its not semitic) have this and this y haplogroup or that mtDNA that you share with them. And don't post wiki links, I don't read them. Because as I told you before, they're the losers way of looking knowledgeable without proper education LOL

Idiot. Those people are long gone. Just like the ancient Romans, Sumerians etc. But their descendants which are us Arabs and Semitic people are still alive. We cluster with each other and are thus related. GENETIC TESTS confirm this. Do you understand these simple facts donkey? Contrary to you Turkic people we are actually related genetically and not only linguistically like you are.

Yes, the Dilmun were a Semitic speaking civilization. Just like the Akkadians.

 

[telkon]

Edit: And I'm really hungry so I'm leaving. Besides, we sh.t on this thread :/

Idiot. Those people are long gone. Just like the Romans. But their descendants which are us Arabs and Semitic people are still alive. We cluster with each other and are thus related. GENETIC TESTS confirm this. Do you understand these simple facts donkey? Contrary to you Turkic people we are actually related genetically and not only linguistically like you are.

Yes, the Dilmun were a Semitic speaking civilization. Just like the Akkadians.

Which genetic tests camel?

 

[al-Hasani]

Edit: And I'm really hungry so I'm leaving. Besides, we sh.t on this thread :/



Which genetic tests camel?

The ones I just posted to you donkey. More precisely the haplogroup I posted to you. Do you even know what a haplgroup is? But obviously you have no clue about genetics at all. Hence you should not engage in debates that are beyond your comprehension.

Just stick to Mongols donkey.

 

[telkon]

The ones I just posted to you donkey. More precisely the haplogroup I posted to you. Do you even know what a haplgroup is? But obviously you have no clue about genetics at all. Hence you should not engage in debates that are beyond your comprehension.

Are you angry camel? You write very short posts

 

[al-Hasani]

Are you angry camel? You write very short posts

No, the camel just spat in the donkey's mouth and made him quite.

 

[telkon]

No, the camel just spat in the donkey's mouth and made him quite.

I think its the other way around LOL. I'd expect from you at least 4 wiki links, 2 thousand word essay and a little belly dancing

 

[faithfulguy]

Ukraine had the hottest looking modern PM in Yulia Volodymyrivna

She is already 53 years old. The hottest 53 year old lady I had ever seen. And the youngest looking 53 year old.

 

[Star Wars]

MINA Breaking News - Ukraine's Navy refuses orders from Kiev, defects to Russia

Looks like the Ukrainian military is not so keen on fighting