U.S. Military Taught Officers ‘Hiroshima’ Tactics for ‘Total War’ on Islam

[lem34]

Saying what is correct is never a popularity contest.

I do not temper or influence my positions by who is on what side or which way the wind is blowing.

This is called independent thought. Try it some time. You, and most others here, may find it liberating.

Is that what you call blind devotion to American ruling regime and establishment

 

[Skallagrim]

They have taught the course for years and only now we come to know about it, why not since the adoption of the course? After all this is not a private institution and US military can't avoid the responsibilty which probably they would be trying by engaging their zionist controlled media which would accomplish this assignment by making a scapegoat of this Lt col Matthew Dooles and maybe by further discrediting him as a psycho.

 

[vsdoc]

Semantics - I believe he got his point across ...

Nice to finally bump into you. I was asking around about where you've been.

 

[Skallagrim]

Now the lesson to learn for us Muslims is that the hypothetical scenario and the hypothetical preemptive war they were/are designing, being taught in a top military school, is to be taken seriously and this definitely may become a reality in future. It doesn't matter at all what we think of ourselves, but the judeo-christian atheist and the indo-pagan fear us is a reality and at any time we may become a victim of their fear. Now don't indulge into the romantic thinking that you would be able to educate them and your own 'demonic extremist' brethren and appease your enlightened superior western friends and probably their cohorts in the subcontinent. This is not practically possible. Rather we have to establish justice in your society because the lack of it would individualize our people seeking their personal interests only, forgetting everything above their selfish being. Establishing justice would increase the cohesiveness among our people and boost their moral which would then result into channeling their strength and effort in a different but positive direction to achieve a desired level of survivality. Our greatest enemy is the 'enlightened educated' us who in their romanticism think that the era of war is gone and now peace and peace is everywhere.

 

[jha]

Whatever happened to " Prepare for the worst "..?

I bet every Army prepares for their own worst scenarios..

 

[VCheng]

Whatever happened to " Prepare for the worst "..?

I bet every Army prepares for their own worst scenarios..

That philosophy is alive and well, and serves all major military forces of the world.

What people fail to realize is that all the recent political hoopla is directed towards a small elective course running for years with no ill effects has two main aims. Domestically, it will rile up the right wingers before Presidential elections by forcing Obama into being politically correct so that he can be accused of appeasement. Internationally, it will rankle religious hotheads even more so that they continue to wreak havoc among their own nations. (Perhaps also to rile up websites such as this? Who knows! )

 

[Vinod2070]

I don't know who green lighted this course but whoever did, I hope they also added in the preface that such an event would signal the next crusades. Right now, less than 500,000 rag tag militants are keeping about 60 of the world's most advanced armed forces busy and giving them a real run for their money, the ISAF enjoys massive amount of local co-operation. If the holy sites are attacked however, you will be fighting 2 Billion people!
We'll all be pushed back into the middle ages.

It is because the West has not chosen to employ the "Mongol tactics" so far.

This thread is precisely about the scenario when the current strategy of LIC doesn't work.

We all better hope (for your own sake) that it doesn't come to that.

 

[jha]

That philosophy is alive and well, and serves all major military forces of the world.

What people fail to realize is that all the recent political hoopla is directed towards a small elective course running for years with no ill effects has two main aims. Domestically, it will rile up the right wingers before Presidential elections by forcing Obama into being politically correct so that he can be accused of appeasement. Internationally, it will rankle religious hotheads even more so that they continue to wreak havoc among their own nations. (Perhaps also to rile up websites such as this? Who knows! )

Why is this so difficult for some posters to understand..

This is just an elective course...Why so hoopla around this..?

That philosophy is alive and well, and serves all major military forces of the world.

What people fail to realize is that all the recent political hoopla is directed towards a small elective course running for years with no ill effects has two main aims. Domestically, it will rile up the right wingers before Presidential elections by forcing Obama into being politically correct so that he can be accused of appeasement. Internationally, it will rankle religious hotheads even more so that they continue to wreak havoc among their own nations. (Perhaps also to rile up websites such as this? Who knows! )

Why is this so difficult for some posters to understand..

This is just an elective course...Why so hoopla around this..?

 

[King Solomon]

It is because the West has not chosen to employ the "Mongol tactics" so far.

This thread is precisely about the scenario when the current strategy of LIC doesn't work.

We all better hope (for your own sake) that it doesn't come to that.

Yes. At present, Muslims have no chance of doing anything and have to face up with this reality. US/Israel can nuke Mecca/Medina and get away with little or no repercussions at that.

The scenario is of course at hand. The slightest unrest in the Saudi royal family and US will immediately launch a full scale invasion of Saudi arabia to preserve the petrodollar - in which Mecca/Medina may be nuked/destroyed. The scenario was planned in 1970s and it would be naive to believe the plans have been abandoned.

 

[lem34]

Yes. At present, Muslims have no chance of doing anything and have to face up with this reality. US/Israel can nuke Mecca/Medina and get away with little or no repercussions at that.

The scenario is of course at hand. The slightest unrest in the Saudi royal family and US will immediately launch a full scale invasion of Saudi arabia to preserve the petrodollar - in which Mecca/Medina may be nuked/destroyed. The scenario was planned in 1970s and it would be naive to believe the plans have been abandoned.

I am sure Pakistani nukes could flatten Tel Aviv. Remember Tel Aviv is more important to Americans than Washington

 

[King Solomon]

I am sure Pakistani nukes could flatten Tel Aviv. Remember Tel Aviv is more important to Americans than Washington

Would pakistan risk getting nuked and destroyed in return? Pakistan's nukes can act as a deterrent, as it is doing now. But in all probabilities in case they DO decide to nuke Mecca/Medina, unfortunately it cannot help much.

 

[SQ8]

Would pakistan risk getting nuked and destroyed in return? Pakistan's nukes can act as a deterrent, as it is doing now. But in all probabilities in case they DO decide to nuke Mecca/Medina, unfortunately it cannot help much.

depends on the value of lives..
The deterrence is just that..
The Israelis fight for each life they call their own..
On the other hand.. Pakistanis hold little value for life when it comes to religion...whats losing 50 million when such a catastrophe has occurred.

 

[r3alist]

One elective course that presents an alternative point of view is "indefensible"? Officers should develop skills necessary to critically evaluate what needs to be done. If one course says "Kill 'em all and nuke Mecca!" they go away knowing that "No, we can't kill them all, and there is no point in nuking Mecca". The course served its purpose well.

this is the most hilarious spin ever, truly epic, what you have done is turned this situation into a positive for the us and alleviated and crime of spreading hate because apparently its up to the officers to be critical of the content. apparently there was only ONE (or a few at most) who objected, only a few!!

never mind that they cannot pass the exam if they dont regurgitate the material!!


and another hilarious thing....truly hilarious and sad.......you referred to this course as "an alternative viewpoint" - thats right, JUST an alternative viewpoint, a mere exercise in gaming out a scenario - truly brilliant spin doctoring - talking about the destruction of mecca and medina as a alternative viewpoint!!

 

[AUz]

This thread has nothing to do with Indian Muslims, but since you brought them, let me assure you, an average Indian Muslim is more literate and earns more than an average Pakistani Muslim, and has far less probability of getting blown up in pieces while he is praying in a masjid.

As far as Hindus living in KSA is concerned, rich coming from a Pakistani living in USA and considering how your Arabian brothers treat you.

All wrong.

An "average Pakistani" earns almost the same as "average Indian" ... Now Indian Muslims are LOWEST in societal pyramid of India...hence...their "average annual wage" is way less than overall average , right? Hence a Pakistani Muslim lives a WAY better life than an average 2nd class citizen of India (Indian Muslim).

Now , regarding violence , well we are in the midst of a war. What do you expect, flowers and roses? Albeit Indian Muslims were burnt alive and raped even in the peaceful times (Gujarat for e.g) ...

Lastly , not only in the U.S.A , but I have actually lived in Saudi Arabia too. Saudis , atleast the grown up men , respect Pakistanis more than the Indian "hindus". Sorry to put it blatantly but this is what the case is. Young Saudis however see everyone as "Ajnabis"...

Why you even brought Pakistan in when the main premise of my post was to show the behavior of general Indian public towards Islam and Muslims? You can go and read comments by yourself. Hate and only hate. Why is that , may I ask?

 

[lem34]

Would pakistan risk getting nuked and destroyed in return? Pakistan's nukes can act as a deterrent, as it is doing now. But in all probabilities in case they DO decide to nuke Mecca/Medina, unfortunately it cannot help much.

I dread to think of the effect on the planet of releasing 100 nukes. Would it be livable??