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with these 80 mirages , the MMRCA figures could reduce to 60+20 , and most probably the MIG-35...
i guess you are right. but rafale is better than mirage 2000.we should spend wisely.i think you havent read my post well
so repeating it for you
if these birds come for price of 20-25 mmrca birds then we can off course afford them along with 126 MMRCA so no need to cancel or reduce this deal we can just cancel +74 factor
well i dont see this as a twist in mmrca
basicallt IAF wont cancel MMRCA after coming so far , it will definately hamper our image in defence world plus if we look at planes which are in interest of IAF are much superior than mirages so IAF definitely wants more advanced planes with TOT through this MMRCA deal
so there is no way this old mirages can REPLACE MMRCA.
having said so
we can still buy this 60-80 planes if they have enough life(15-20years) left and coming for a price of 20-25 mmrca birds becuase
1. IAF currently operates mirages so experience in operating them already exists with good maintainance infrastructure hence no extra cost for it
2.this birds can replace all MIG 21 except those with BISON upgrade right away
3. since this planes are already there so there wont be any time wasted in procurement of them once deal is finalised like time needed for construction of aircraft's after ordering them.
you are obssesed with religion ?
anyway , what's your religion , i would surely like to return the faver one day...
And these are your Hindu spelling?
And these are your Hindu spelling?
This guy should be banned.
So Pak AF is thinking of replacing old fighters with jf17 ?? How many platforms are they thinking of operating, say from 2015 onwards ??/in this case i think PAF should have replaced their old mirages with UAE mirages ut dont know why PAF is counting much with one platform JF 17
if 68+12=80 second hand mirage comes immdiatly , the shortage of aircrafts in IAF will be fullfilled and IAF can afford to hang on for another 5-6 years to wait FGFA and MMRCA could be scraped....
Which increases the costs for MMRCA again and reduced the benetifs we could get from the winning country.but with 80 such second hand mirage , the initial order number for MMRCA could be reduce....
i think IAF will get them in short time , france has also proposed india to have 40 rafale in flyaway condition from their own inventery so , they can give some 40 odd rafale to UAE...
Those Mirages can't come immediately, because those countries needs replacements too. So if we would buy them, they come oly squad by squad, everytime UAE, or Qatar gets a new squad.
Which increases the costs for MMRCA again and reduced the benetifs we could get from the winning country.
franch can still give them rafale from their own inventery and gradually replace them with newer once ...Not really, they offered to fast induction of fighters besides their orders, because they can increase the production (which is runing at slow rate now) and the Rafale on order for us, is pretty much the version French forces gets too, while UAE wants major differents, which takes longer to develop and integrate them.
Bottom line is, IAF wanted second hand and new Mirage 2000-5s before in the initial MRCA competition, but that didn't happened, so now that is pretty much out as a possibility. It would take too long now, UAE probably asks for too much money and a reduction of MMRCA is not going to happen anyway (an increase is even more likely). They went for the upgrade, because the M2Ks are one of the most capable fighter in the fleet and will go for MMRCA as a more capable addition to them, LCA MK2 and MKI.
Those Mirages can't come immediately, because those countries needs replacements too. So if we would buy them, they come oly squad by squad, everytime UAE, or Qatar gets a new squad.
no , i read in some old article that there is a clouse in MMRCA tendor which ask the compititier to quote the minimum number of aircratfs which they willing to suppy with fully obliging the other requirments of the tendor , also if you remenber US officials had express their concern that MMRCA tendor could be a split.....that's clearly means 126 is the maximun initial order number , not the lowest..
franch can still give them rafale from their own inventery and gradually replace them with newer once ...
as per the article , UAE and Qatar has officially given a proposal ....