Turks sign deal with Qatar for military base in Qater

[cabatli_53]

Considering that I had countered that bs news a hundred times, at least from you, I expected more.

Iran has never threatened to 'bomb Turkey if Israel attacks Iran', even a 2 year old would understand that it doesn't make sense. This is what Iran said:

"We will attack NATO radars in Turkey if they intercept Iranian missiles going towards Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran".

It seems It is Ok for you to launch a mass destruction weapon to civilians but looking someone to blame in order to engage those Iranian crime missile targetting directly civilzations and threatening Turkey hosting just radar, to hit cause of that fact ? Then coming here and trying to give us a course How should the people defend their opinions ? Are you high ?

 

[Serpentine]

It seems It is Ok for you to launch a mass destruction weapon with a 200M CEP rate to civilzations but looking someone to blame in order to engage those crime missile targetting directly civilzations and threatening Turkey to hit cause of that fact ? Then coming here and trying to give us a course How should the people defend their opinions ?

Oh, put all these mind games aside and answer my question:

Does Turkey have a right to let radars in its soil be used against Iran, after an Israeli strike in a war that has nothing to do with Turkey? Is it an act of war or not?

 

[atatwolf]

So what you think how we will be able to protect Islam and Islamic countries from West invaders ?
How to protect another Muslim country from being IRAQ , PALESTINE, AFGHANISTAN ??
In fact, this move can bind us together .
UN have it's own army NATO.. now tell me where is NATO and UN standing While Myanmar is killing it's muslim Population ? If UN can have NATO ,, So Why not any Army of O.I.C ?
From Islamic Army and Bases in other Muslim countries i didn't mean to simply just Attack other countries from those bases .. They must be on protection mode only.. Just in case of any Crusades, We will have many platforms to tackle them..

You keep bashing NATO's Turkey but it was Turkey who opposed US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan while Iran gave logistical support to the US to invade Iraq in 2003. The answer to your question is to remove anti-Islamic countries like Iran and educate them.

Well, Hezbollah doesn't attack Isr, it's the other way around. Other than that, I agree. This 'influence building' has cost Iran a lot. Although many Iranians would say: if not fighting them in Syria etc, they'd be at our borders. Anyway, I hope the future brings peace and trade, instead of this islamic/middle eastern orgy of violence. With China and India booming, this entire region could prosper and thrive.



I think you're not seeing it correctly. The West doesn't need to invade these countries anymore. Dumb cowboy Bushs thought they could do it and it cost them dearly. The West just pitches one idiotic muslim against the other (nothing to do with religion). Or do you think it's christians fighting in Syria and Iraq?

Iranian Hezbollah does frequent attacks on Israeli targets and they also help terrorist to make scud missiles to target Israeli civilians. Place yourself in the shoes of Israeli. What would you do?

Oh, put all these mind games aside and answer my question:

Does Turkey have a right to let radars in its soil be used against Iran, after an Israeli strike in a war that has nothing to do with Turkey? Is it an act of war or not?

Israel won't attack Iran out of the blue. Only after continuing aggression from Iran, there is a posibility of Israeli strike on Iran.

 

[RealNapster]

Well, Hezbollah doesn't attack Isr, it's the other way around. Other than that, I agree. This 'influence building' has cost Iran a lot. Although many Iranians would say: if not fighting them in Syria etc, they'd be at our borders. Anyway, I hope the future brings peace and trade, instead of this islamic/middle eastern orgy of violence. With China and India booming, this entire region could prosper and thrive.



I think you're not seeing it correctly. The West doesn't need to invade these countries anymore. Dumb cowboy Bushs thought they could do it and it cost them dearly. The West just pitches one idiotic muslim against the other (nothing to do with religion). Or do you think it's christians fighting in Syria and Iraq?

Now who will stood and stop Iran and KSA from fighting in Syria ? That's what i am talking about .. And about IRAQ, ISIS is fighting there ,, And if you know on whose agenda isis is working... YOU must be familiar of this .. As they are the only muslim who is fighting for " islam'" 'AGAINST MUSLIMS""

 

[-SINAN-]

I meant the missile defense system, which includes the radar system. Does it make a difference where the missiles are as long as it's radars in Turkey that would detect the ballistic missiles?

Missiles are in Romania...and they are defending Europe, not Israel.

 

[RealNapster]

You keep bashing NATO's Turkey but it was Turkey who opposed US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan while Iran gave logistical support to the US to invade Iraq and Syria. The answer to your question is to remove anti-Islamic countries like Iran and educate them.

No body is bashing NATO's Turkey ?? i am just demanding a Neutralizing force. And yes .. i agree with you that from the 100% of Muslim Umma Problems both Iran and KSA Shares 40%--45% individually..

 

[cabatli_53]

Oh, put all these mind games aside and answer my question:

Does Turkey have a right to let radars in its soil be used against Iran, after an Israeli strike in a war that has nothing to do with Turkey? Is it an act of war or not?

Take a look How He is justifying to launch a mass destruction weapon to civilians, then examine this Mod's excuses to defend one Iranian general's threatening against Turkey. Do you really know What you are defending ? Radars are not a threat to anyone. It is missiles that You should worry about. It is quite interesting for a guy like you in that position who is talking about hitting Turkey cause of hosting NATO radars but same radars are stationed in Israel and some other Arab countries. Those radars have a range of thousands of km. How could you know Which radar detected your mass destruction weapon to justify a likely attack to Turkey ? Isn't it the missile batteries engaging coming missiles ?

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

@cabatli_53

Acc to Definition of Aggression in The UN resolution...

Israel has now the legit right to hit Iran; and NATO has the same legit right to stop Iran.

End of story.

 

[-SINAN-]

No body is bashing NATO's Turkey ?? i am just demanding a Neutralizing force. And yes .. i agree with you that from the 100% of Muslim Umma Problems both Iran and KSA Shares 40%--45% individually..

You should make a poll...and see how many of us care for Ummah.

 

[Serpentine]

Take a look what's the purpose of launching a mass destruction weapon, then examine this Mod's excuses to justify one Iranian general's threatening against Turkey. Do you really know What you are defending ? Radars are not a threat to anyone. It is missiles that You should worry about. It is quite interesting for a guy like you in that position who is talking about hitting Turkey cause of hosting NATO radars but same radars are stationed in Israel and some other Arab countries. Those radars have a range of thousands of km. How could you know Which radar detected your mass destruction weapon to justify a likely attack to Turkey ? Isn't it the missile batteries engaging coming missiles ?

Why do you care about my title? I'm talking to you as a member of this forum not as a 'Mod'.

You are putting words in my mouth, as if I have said Iran will attack Turkey 100% after such war. I think I have to repeat myself: If it is proved/revealed somehow that radars in Turkey are being used for such matters, then it means Turkey is participating in the war.

Secondly, they don't have a range of 'thousands' of kilometers. Arrow 3 has a maximum detection range of 800 KM and THAAD has a detection range of 1000 km. Can you please tell me which radar are you taking about? I mean a radar that can precisely detect a ballistic missile from thousands of kilometers away and s currently stationed in Israel or Arab countries.

while Iran gave logistical support to the US to invade Iraq in 2003

@Sinan
Since you care so much about 'not lying', it would be great if you sometimes act against a despicable act of lying like this and educate your compatriots too.

Missiles are in Romania...and they are defending Europe, not Israel.

That's what I'm talking about and end of story. So basically, Turkey is not going to intervene in such war and hence, nothing is threatening Turkey.

 

[ANMDT]

Oh, put all these mind games aside and answer my question:

Does Turkey have a right to let radars in its soil be used against Iran, after an Israeli strike in a war that has nothing to do with Turkey? Is it an act of war or not?

Yes we have such right in the case *1 , we are in that military organization also its well known whenever iran developed a misslie the *1 range is measured on where it reaches on europe by iranians and your state. Eventhough what you mention is like the juice of the juice of the apple ,in the case iran replies israel's missile attacks by firing missiles,;in which didnt happen even in cold war.

Targeting Nato assets in turkey's land which doesnt target iran actively such as by firing missile / shooting is nonsense and will be act against turkey ,yet turkey wont let any asset placed in turkey to hit iran. Say in the other hand, if your missile cruising over turkey's airspace we have pretty good engagement right /also nato does; doesnt matter where is that going, same for the israeli's missle going over the airspace.

When your president or religous leader speaks what i heard is " we will target nato bases in turkey" , it will just drag turkey into war with you . What about your "precise" cruise missile land on turkey fired by assad ? Lets assume its precise, then do you have a right to sale such large destruction weapons without any technical assistance, would you face the result if that hit to civilized area or would you just shut up and laugh inside?

About the base, soon some officials from iran will have a speech and "warn " turkey to stop hostile acts in the region

Title does matter, i have report lots of post in iranian section during debate with some trolls , and their messages included humiliating sections to turkey . But somehow nothing happened to their posts nor edited. Its not to place to talk about double standards. Just once the thing came about title its good to share.

 

[cabatli_53]

Why do you care about my title? I'm talking to you as a member of this forum not as a 'Mod'.

You are putting words in my mouth, as if I have said Iran will attack Turkey 100% after such war. I think I have to repeat myself: If it is proved/revealed somehow that radars in Turkey are being used for such matters, then it means Turkey is participating in the war.

Secondly, they don't have a range of 'thousands' of kilometers. Arrow 3 has a maximum detection range of 800 KM and THAAD has a detection range of 1000 km. Can you please tell me which radar are you taking about? I mean a radar that can precisely detect a ballistic missile from thousands of kilometers away and s currently stationed in Israel or Arab countries.



@Sinan
Since you care so much about 'not lying', it would be great if you sometimes act against a despicable act of lying like this and educate your compatriots too.



That's what I'm talking about and end of story. So basically, Turkey is not going to intervene in such war and hence, nothing is threatening Turkey.

"Mod", That's what You are falling into difficulties to comprehend the situation. It is an Early warning radar called AN-TPY-2 that has a detection range changing from 1000km to 3000km in accordance with radar cross action of targets.

but Keep it in your mind that Turks have all rights to do whatever We want as for benefits of union We are inside. As long as You keep developing mass destruction weapons carrying hundreds of kg biological/chemical/nuclear warheads to be targetted directly to big metropol cities to destroy thousands of civilians within seconds, We have all rights for a deadly kick back(defensive/attacking). It is your crazy generals threatening the World with using those crime weapons against civilzations living outside of your borders against Saudis, Israelis, Turks, Europeans...etc. Insted of accusing the countries taking some precuations, Look at your regime firstly. Who can guarantee us that Those missiles wouldn't be used against Turkey ? Accept ot not, You are a country who can do everything We can imagine because The only strategic thing you can produce in terms of military hardwares, are those ballistic missiles. Most of others are just copy of freign equivalents. That's why It should be needed to take cautions before meeting a danger...

 

[-SINAN-]

That's what I'm talking about and end of story. So basically, Turkey is not going to intervene in such war and hence, nothing is threatening Turkey.

SO, why Iranian officials bring the issue in the first place then, while Turkey physically can't involve in a war between Israel and Iran...

Let me tell you. Iran is basically saying if Israel hits us. We will hit the US bases around us...but we both know Iran won't touch Turkey in such a case....Saddam didn't dare to touch us back in the day.

@Sinan
Since you care so much about 'not lying', it would be great if you sometimes act against a despicable act of lying like this and educate your compatriots too.

I'm not quiet knowledgeable about Iran's history....

I know ours, not foreigners' history.

 

[Metanoia]

Saudis will not be happy about it I reckon lol

 

[atatwolf]

More info on the deal:

A comprehensive military and defense industry agreement between Turkey and Qatar will enable the former to deploy troops in Qatari territories for joint drills and training purposes, in a bid to further intensify the partnership between the two countries.

The details of the agreement signed in December 2014 on cooperation in military training, the defense industry, and deployment of the Turkish Armed Forces in Qatari territory were finally published in the Official Gazette on June 8.

The deal was inked by Turkish Defense Minister İsmet Yılmaz and Qatari Defense Minister Major General Hamad Bin Ali al-Attiyah in Ankara.

The military deal is seen as another step between Turkey and Qatar, whose regional partnership especially in Syria is becoming more visible through joint actions.

According to the agreement, the two countries will also open their territories to each other’s military forces for joint military exercises, and Turkish forces will be deployed in Qatar for training and joint exercises.

It added that the two countries will be able to use each other’s ports, airports and airspace, to deploy forces on each other’s territory and thus mutually benefit from facilities, camps, units, and institutions.

The two countries will also “cooperate in the fight against terrorism,” the agreement states.

Parties will not apply to tribune in case of dispute

One particularly noteworthy aspect of the agreement is on the settlement of any disputes between Ankara and Doha.

“Any dispute that may arise during the implementation phase or in interpretation of this agreement shall be settled through consultations and negotiations between the parties. They shall not apply to any national or international tribunal or third party,” reads the agreement.

Negotiations will begin within 30 days after the matter of dispute and in the event that the dispute cannot be settled within 60 days the parties may terminate the agreement, according to the text. Otherwise, the agreement will remain in force for a period of 10 years.

Timing of deal also important

The signing and entry into force of the agreement comes at a time when the two countries, together with Saudi Arabia, have geared up their efforts to provide more logistical support to the Free Syrian Army and its components in the struggle against Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Turkey has already announced its willingness to cooperate with the two countries for the protection of anti-regime fighters inside Syria by establishing no-fly zones and security zones, in the event the United States and other Western allies do not favor such a move.

Since you care so much about 'not lying', it would be great if you sometimes act against a despicable act of lying like this and educate your compatriots too.

I know the truth is a taboo in Mullahstan but the biggest beneficiary of US war on Saddam starting in 2003 is Iran. The US basically kicked out the Sunni government and turned it into a sectarian Shia government. The perfect recipe for decades of war of sectarian war. Something that the US likes to see happening there. Iran loves sectarian war and use ISIS as an excuse to expand influence. Assad also uses this too. He uses ISIS excuse to wage war on Syrian people.