Turks sign deal with Qatar for military base in Qater

[xenon54 out]

When Iran threatened us, It make me laugh. They sometimes compose such BS statements cause of desperation that They can't predict How those speeches will be wellcomed abroad. What doesn it mean, "If Israel attack Iran, Iran attacks Turkey" ? so In paralel to this logic, If Iran attack us, We should attack Greece ? I really wonder If this Idiot Mullah general serve to Iranian army at present. If He serves, Most probably, He will threaten us like "If Turks construct a naval base in Qatar, We will attack Pakistan" like statements...

Because it would prevent a counter attack on Israel, not that Iran could attack Israel anyway not to mention Turkey but most of those big speeches are for internal consumption, noone outside of Iran buys the mullahs tantrums and they know it.

 

[IR-TR]

If It was in Medditerranean, It makes sense, since We have problems with Greece. A LHD group with 8 F-35B, protected by TF-2000's equipped with Gezgin LACM, Atmaca SSM approaching to Greece from SouthWest at a likely crisses will drive Greeks to seperate their forces into many pieces thanks to deep fear such a naval manouvring will spread but A Naval base in a Persian Gulf will just serve to introduce some shiny warships to angry Mullahs which will drive them to threaten us with exercises introducing tens of their kamikaze boats next to our base attacking/exploding themselves, then claiming to attack that base with 10,000 boats. I don't suppose Qatar base will serve our benefits If Qatar don't guarantee to fund TF-100 or TF-2000 frigates.

What's with the 'Greek problem', they're a little fly that Turkey can swat in a second. This thing though worries me. I hope it's not the start of something bigger. God damn this scumbag Erdogan. After finally losing the elections, he pulls a stunt like this. As if his foreign policy ever worked in the Middle East. From a zero problems policy, to I got 99 problems but a ... Anyway, let's hope this doesn't escalate anything. Hopefully it's just a ploy to get the scared, worthless Qataris 'calmed down', and Turkey gets all the gas it wants at a significant discount. Perhaps even some arms contracts. Heck, I don't like that little rathole armed to the teeth, but if they're going to buy expensive toys anyway, might as well have Turkey benefit from it instead of France or the US!

Well the Iranian regime sees even defensive NATO mechanisms in Turkey as a threat to itself, so i dont believe that Iran doesnt give a damn about a Turkish base next to its doorstep, not that the base would be a threat to Iran but neither is the NATO missile defense shield...

Iran threatens to bomb Turkey if U.S. or Israel attack nuclear installations | Daily Mail Online

I don't know about that (Daily Mail'i quote etmek ayiptir), but you could say any type of missile shield is 'aggression'. See how the Russians went crazy for over a decade over the proposed shield in Eastern Europe, or the Chinese about Korea allowing the US to deploy THAAD over there. But heck, until now Iran and Turkey were cool pretty much. Let's hope that remains the case forever.

 

[xenon54 out]

I don't know about that (Daily Mail'i quote etmek ayiptir), but you could say any type of missile shield is 'aggression'.

But do you see any similarity about the countries you listed Russia, China, Iran? They arent exactly known for their peace loving attitude, they will see anything that perevents their agenda as a threat to them.

For me Turkey has every wight to install any defensive sytem on its own soil, the Iranian statement is just proving that the decision to allow a missile shield was right.

 

[cabatli_53]

What's with the 'Greek problem', they're a little fly that Turkey can swat in a second. This thing though worries me. I hope it's not the start of something bigger. God damn this scumbag Erdogan. After finally losing the elections, he pulls a stunt like this. As if his foreign policy ever worked in the Middle East. From a zero problems policy, to I got 99 problems but a ... Anyway, let's hope this doesn't escalate anything. Hopefully it's just a ploy to get the scared, worthless Qataris 'calmed down', and Turkey gets all the gas it wants at a significant discount. Perhaps even some arms contracts. Heck, I don't like that little rathole armed to the teeth, but if they're going to buy expensive toys anyway, might as well have Turkey benefit from it instead of France or the US!

Littile fly ? I think You should read something more about Greece. Cause of fear, They ordered dozens of military assets that They are one of the biggest armed forces of Europe in its size. The reason of their economical collapse is about investing big money on arms. Greece is like a paradise of Surface to air missiles. S-300, Pac-3, Pac-2, Hawk, Tor, OSA, Aspide, Crotale...etc. Their AF have similar size with for example Germans in terms of fighter numbers. Such a small country hosts AWACS like aircrafts. Their AirForce uses Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Almost all of them are stationed to counter Turkish AirForce and missiles.

As If all those are not enough, They beg help from Israel and EU to protect themselves againt us, When something happened.

Greek SAM's are a serious threat to us so Turkish AF prepares special tactics and electronic counter measure technics. Turkey even ordered S-300 radars and stationed in Konya training center, developed stand off cruise missiles to counter them out of missile ranges and investing kamikaze drones...

but Turkish AF doesn't recognize any border established by Greeks so They call it as "Turks are daily violating our air space"...

Greek PM is talking about fear

 

[-SINAN-]

What's with the 'Greek problem', they're a little fly that Turkey can swat in a second. This thing though worries me. I hope it's not the start of something bigger. God damn this scumbag Erdogan. After finally losing the elections, he pulls a stunt like this. As if his foreign policy ever worked in the Middle East. From a zero problems policy, to I got 99 problems but a ... Anyway, let's hope this doesn't escalate anything. Hopefully it's just a ploy to get the scared, worthless Qataris 'calmed down', and Turkey gets all the gas it wants at a significant discount. Perhaps even some arms contracts. Heck, I don't like that little rathole armed to the teeth, but if they're going to buy expensive toys anyway, might as well have Turkey benefit from it instead of France or the US!

Bro, i don't think this base has anything to do with Iran....

Qatar and Turkey have speacial relationship...that to both of it's leaders being MB. And our countries cooperating on geopolitical issues.

When Erdoğan been the president...many statesman attended to presidential dinner...PMs, Presidents, Foreign Ministers, etc....but next to Erdoğan, Qatar Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani was sitting next to him. Left to his wife, right to Qatari.

I think this base thingy is happening, to deepening the strategic relations and strengthening the bond of the two country.

 

[RealNapster]

Why does turkey need base in Qatar?

Brotherhood things

 

[atatwolf]

I don't think this base will be to attack Iran. It is there to secure trade routs if Iran shows their aggression again and perhaps also to beat down an Iranian fueled insurgency ala Yemen. Qatar is important ally and we have couple of big projects with them. We can loose those projects if Qater plunges in a civil war. Seeing Iranian aggression in Syria and Yemen it only makes sense that Turkey has a base there.

 

[RealNapster]

Muslim Brotherhood at work again. If Morsi had not been toppled, we would see a Turkish base in Egypt too, or an Egyptian base in Turkey.

time for Establishing "Islamic Army" .. All the Muslim countries Specially Iran, Turkey Pakistan Malaysia Should built bases in Each and Every Muslim Country . They can be used very positively in conditions just like "Egypt 2013-14".

 

[IR-TR]

But do you see any similarity about the countries you listed Russia, China, Iran? They arent exactly known for their peace loving attitude, they will see anything that perevents their agenda as a threat to them.

For me Turkey has every wight to install any defensive sytem on its own soil, the Iranian statement is just proving that the decision to allow a missile shield was right.

Heck, I support the missile shield. It's not like Turkey is itching to invade Iran anyway, or attack. The problem would be this scenario: if the US/Isr would attack Iran, and Iran couldn't hit back. You've got to agree with that there. If this was just a shield to defend Turkey, I'm all for it. But yeah, otherwise it's quite like tying a guy's hands to his back, and starting a boxing match. Quite unfair. But hey, US=superpower for a couple more years, not much can be done against it.

Littile fly ? I think You should read something more about Greece. Cause of fear, They ordered dozens of military assets that They are one of the biggest armed forces of Europe in its size. The reason of their economical collapse is about investing big money on arms. Greece is like a paradise of Surface to air missiles. S-300, Pac-3, Pac-2, Hawk, Tor, OSA, Aspide, Crotale...etc. Their AF have similar size with for example Germans in terms of fighter numbers. Such a small country hosts AWACS like aircrafts. Their AirForce uses Storm Shadow cruise missiles. Almost all of them are stationed to counter Turkish AirForce and missiles.

As If all those are not enough, They beg help from Israel and EU to protect themselves againt us, When something happened.

Greek SAM's are a serious threat to us so Turkish AF prepares special tactics and electronic counter measure technics. Turkey even ordered S-300 radars and stationed in Konya training center, developed stand off cruise missiles to counter them out of missile ranges and investing kamikaze drones...

but Turkish AF doesn't recognize any border established by Greeks so They call it as "Turks are daily violating our air space"...

Greek PM is talking about fear

Never knew TSK referred to Greeks as Turks! That's incredibly awesome That being said though, I don't EVER see a war happening between the two, and that's not because Greece is so strong. Turkey is a trading partner with a big defense force, not an aggressive nation that has to prove something. As for Greek, I'd like them to 'attack' their economic problems first. And if push came to shove, we'll use all those tourist boats and deniz otobusleri to invade Greece Damn things are fast.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Brotherhood things

No, it is not.

This is a big policy shift since great leader Atatürk. I buy this move, however, I do not believe The AKP has enough intellectual deepness to make it right for short, middle and long term interests of Turkey.

 

[feedermen]

Brotherhood things

Muslim brotherhood?
Will Turkey accept Iranian base in its territory?

 

[cabatli_53]

It is true that a foreign base close to problematic regions can easily be provocated by any force who wants Turkey put inside of danger.

 

[IR-TR]

Bro, i don't think this base has anything to do with Iran....

Qatar and Turkey have speacial relationship...that to both of it's leaders being MB. And our countries cooperating on geopolitical issues.

When Erdoğan been the president...many statesman attended to presidential dinner...PMs, Presidents, Foreign Ministers, etc....but next to Erdoğan, Qatar Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani was sitting next to him. Left to his wife, right to Qatari.

I think this base thingy is happening, to deepening the strategic relations and strengthening the bond of the two country.

Well, any two countries have the right to do whatever they want on their soil and in their waters. So here's to hoping this isn't the start of a massive military buildup in the region. And as I've said a couple of times before, if we go there to 'defend' Qatar or to show our friendship, that little 'stan' better supply all the cheap natural gas the Turkish economy needs.

I don't think this base will be to attack Iran. It is there to secure trade routs if Iran shows their aggression again and perhaps also to beat down an Iranian fueled insurgency ala Yemen. Qatar is important ally and we have couple of big projects with them. We can loose those projects if Qater plunges in a civil war. Seeing Iranian aggression in Syria and Yemen it only makes sense that Turkey has a base there.

Are you mistaking Qatar for Bahrain? As far as I know, Qatar is 100% Sunni Arab (and 200% millionaire). Not much risk for a civil war. Bahrai is about 75% Shia, or 70, give or take, and is ruled by a Sunni dictator. Kind of like Syria in reverse. That country is in 'danger' of a civil war in the future for sure.

time for Establishing "Islamic Army" .. All the Muslim countries Specially Iran, Turkey Pakistan Malaysia Should built bases in Each and Every Muslim Country . They can be used very positively in conditions just like "Egypt 2013-14".

Time for the entire region to get religion out of politics, how about that? The world is going forward. The only countries that go forward are those that have seperated religion and gouvernment. Don't even try to pretend Qatar and Saudi are doing well. The average gypsy trailer park has more inhabitants than Qatar, and Saudi Arabia is a ticking time bomb. Money doesn't equal progress.

Turkey has shown how to do it for over 80 years. Heck, even today, despite Erdogan's best efforts. Compare the entire region to Turkey and tell me who does better, even though every country has it's flaws.

 

[xenon54 out]

Heck, I support the missile shield. It's not like Turkey is itching to invade Iran anyway, or attack. The problem would be this scenario: if the US/Isr would attack Iran, and Iran couldn't hit back. You've got to agree with that there. If this was just a shield to defend Turkey, I'm all for it. But yeah, otherwise it's quite like tying a guy's hands to his back, and starting a boxing match. Quite unfair. But hey, US=superpower for a couple more years, not much can be done against it.



Never knew TSK referred to Greeks as Turks! That's incredibly awesome That being said though, I don't EVER see a war happening between the two, and that's not because Greece is so strong. Turkey is a trading partner with a big defense force, not an aggressive nation that has to prove something. As for Greek, I'd like them to 'attack' their economic problems first. And if push came to shove, we'll use all those tourist boats and deniz otobusleri to invade Greece Damn things are fast.

I dont think Iran can attack Israel in the first place with or without shield, Iran should stop threatening countries if they dont wanna get sabotaged.

 

[atatwolf]

Time for the entire region to get religion out of politics, how about that? The world is going forward. The only countries that go forward are those that have seperated religion and gouvernment. Don't even try to pretend Qatar and Saudi are doing well. The average gypsy trailer park has more inhabitants than Qatar, and Saudi Arabia is a ticking time bomb. Money doesn't equal progress.

Turkey has shown how to do it for over 80 years. Heck, even today, despite Erdogan's best efforts. Compare the entire region to Turkey and tell me who does better, even though every country has it's flaws.

Bahrain is an arms reach from Qatar. If something happens there, 2 minutes later we can be there if need be. Personally I don't think Turkey should intervene but having the capability is good.

I dont think Iran can attack Israel in the first place with or without shield, Iran should stop threatening countries if they dont wanna get sabotaged.

It is like the psychopath neighbor who constantly threatens you. When you buy a pitbull in your yard, he suddenly feels threatened although the pitbull is in your own yard. Iran should mind its own business. The middle-east would be a much better place.