Turks sign deal with Qatar for military base in Qater

[IR-TR]

I dont think Iran can attack Israel in the first place with or without shield, Iran should stop threatening countries if they dont wanna get sabotaged.

Nonsense. If by attack you mean strike first, I agree. If by attack you mean do any harm, even in retalliation, you're sorely mistaken. I'm not saying Iran is that strong, although asymetrically, Iran is very good, but they have a F ton of missiles. Those things do explode.

Bahrain is an arms reach from Qatar. If something happens there, 2 minutes later we can be there if need be. Personally I don't think Turkey should intervene but having the capability is good.

You like Turkey to be in the position many people accuse Iran of doing in Syria today? Help a small minority oppress a large majority who want to be free?

 

[atatwolf]

Nonsense. If by attack you mean strike first, I agree. If by attack you mean do any harm, even in retalliation, you're sorely mistaken. I'm not saying Iran is that strong, although asymetrically, Iran is very good, but they have a F ton of missiles. Those things do explode.



You like Turkey to be in the position many people accuse Iran of doing in Syria today? Help a small minority oppress a large majority who want to be free?

So why do you support Assad then?

If Iran wants to join the civilized nations. It needs to respect other people and n1 for that is to stop threatening other countries.

If I was Israeli and Iranian Hezbollah keeps attacking me I would feel the same about Iran. Turkey having radar system for Israel is a good thing. As long as Iran knows is place Iran has nothing to worry.

1. Stop attacking Israel with Hezbollah

2. Stop aggression and threats against other countries

3. Build up your relations not with terror funding but with trade and diplomacy.

 

[cabatli_53]

Qatar officials are every corner of Turkey at high ranks. You can see them When officials visiting a military factory or an opening ceremony and new weapon introductions. Qatar/Turkey relations are deeper than we suppose so We don't predict What will be the incomes of such a base of Turkey.

Inside of Kirpi

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Qatar officials are every corner of Turkey at high ranks. You can see them When officials visiting a military factory or an opening ceremony and new weapon introductions. Qatar/Turkey relations are deeper than we suppose so We don't predict What will be the incomes of such a base of Turkey.

Inside of Kirpi

I believe Qatar is financing a ''Muslim'' defence industry, a.k.a Turkey; and this thread gives us some clue of its extent.

 

[cabatli_53]

I believe Qatar is financing a ''Muslim'' defence industry, a.k.a Turkey; and this thread gives us some clue of its extent.

Acc to some source, Qatar placed order for 600 BMC Kirpi as well.

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Acc to some source, Qatar placed order for 600 BMC Kirpi as well.

Qatar is leveraging its position in the region, and seems she decided to make it for long term. Therefore, 600 Kirpi is nothing...

I meant She will finance Turkish industry more in current and planned projects; like China buys farm land/fields in foreign countries to secure the future of its nation and mainland.

 

[RealNapster]

Well, any two countries have the right to do whatever they want on their soil and in their waters. So here's to hoping this isn't the start of a massive military buildup in the region. And as I've said a couple of times before, if we go there to 'defend' Qatar or to show our friendship, that little 'stan' better supply all the cheap natural gas the Turkish economy needs.



Are you mistaking Qatar for Bahrain? As far as I know, Qatar is 100% Sunni Arab (and 200% millionaire). Not much risk for a civil war. Bahrai is about 75% Shia, or 70, give or take, and is ruled by a Sunni dictator. Kind of like Syria in reverse. That country is in 'danger' of a civil war in the future for sure.



Time for the entire region to get religion out of politics, how about that? The world is going forward. The only countries that go forward are those that have seperated religion and gouvernment. Don't even try to pretend Qatar and Saudi are doing well. The average gypsy trailer park has more inhabitants than Qatar, and Saudi Arabia is a ticking time bomb. Money doesn't equal progress.

Turkey has shown how to do it for over 80 years. Heck, even today, despite Erdogan's best efforts. Compare the entire region to Turkey and tell me who does better, even though every country has it's flaws.

So what you think how we will be able to protect Islam and Islamic countries from West invaders ?
How to protect another Muslim country from being IRAQ , PALESTINE, AFGHANISTAN ??
In fact, this move can bind us together .
UN have it's own army NATO.. now tell me where is NATO and UN standing While Myanmar is killing it's muslim Population ? If UN can have NATO ,, So Why not any Army of O.I.C ?
From Islamic Army and Bases in other Muslim countries i didn't mean to simply just Attack other countries from those bases .. They must be on protection mode only.. Just in case of any Crusades, We will have many platforms to tackle them..

 

[Serpentine]

Well the Iranian regime sees even defensive NATO mechanisms in Turkey as a threat to itself, so i dont believe that Iran doesnt give a damn about a Turkish base next to its doorstep, not that the base would be a threat to Iran but neither is the NATO missile defense shield...

Considering that I had countered that bs news a hundred times, at least from you, I expected more.

Iran has never threatened to 'bomb Turkey if Israel attacks Iran', even a 2 year old would understand that it doesn't make sense. This is what Iran said:

"We will attack NATO radars in Turkey if they intercept Iranian missiles going towards Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran".

Do you see the difference? I will bring another example if it's too hard to understand since I have repeated this numerous times: Let's assume there is a war between Turkey and Armenia and Turkish planes are on their way to bomb Armenia and then Iran shoots down Turkish planes, is it an act of war or not?

But I'm sure you won't get it this time too, because it's lovely to be a hot headed nationalist, answering to non existent attack threats against your country on internet, which is exactly what you are doing now. Even you 'think tank', @cabatli_53 did it again, which is a shame of course.

And btw, not, Iran doesn't give a $hit about some Turkish soldiers in Qatar, because they are no threat to us. But a missile defense shield in Turkey that is trying to intercept our missiles? Indeed it is a threat, because it means Turkish soil is being used against us, in a possible war that has nothing to do with Turkey. Put your bias aside and tell me if that isn't logical.

 

[cabatli_53]

So what you think how we will be able to protect Islam and Islamic countries from West invaders ?
How to protect another Muslim country from being IRAQ , PALESTINE, AFGHANISTAN ??
In fact, this move can bind us together .
UN have it's own army NATO.. now tell me where is NATO and UN standing While Myanmar is killing it's muslim Population ? If UN can have NATO ,, So Why not any Army of O.I.C ?
From Islamic Army and Bases in other Muslim countries i didn't mean to simply just Attack other countries from those bases .. They must be on protection mode only.. Just in case of any Crusades, We will have many platforms to tackle them..

With investing education to create questioner/intelligent/well-behaved nation; industry to add educated population into active process to produce strategic assets; perfect justice that citizens feel themselves to be in safe hands, never let discriminations; A real democracy to remove obstacles in front of all type free opinions; secularizm not to waste time for differences on religious discussions repeating itself on governmental issues but I should add that In current situation, It is no need to protect Muslims from outsiders, because Muslims kill eachothers more than foreigners did.

 

[RealNapster]

No, it is not.

This is a big policy shift since great leader Atatürk. I buy this move, however, I do not believe The AKP has enough intellectual deepness to make it right for short, middle and long term interests of Turkey.

And as per my believes "interests of Turkey are mainly interests of Muslim Umma"" .. So Keep it up

 

[-SINAN-]

We will attack NATO radars in Turkey if they intercept Iranian missiles going towards Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran".

How can a Radar intercepts a ballistic missile on it's own ???

 

[RealNapster]

Muslim brotherhood?
Will Turkey accept Iranian base in its territory?

Not now...
But in future
Who knows ...

Positive

 

[Serpentine]

How can a Radar intercepts a ballistic missile on it's own ???

I meant the missile defense system, which includes the radar system. Does it make a difference where the missiles are as long as it's radars in Turkey that would detect the ballistic missiles?

 

[IR-TR]

So why do you support Assad then?

If Iran wants to join the civilized nations. It needs to respect other people and n1 for that is to stop threatening other countries.

If I was Israeli and Iranian Hezbollah keeps attacking me I would feel the same about Iran. Turkey having radar system for Israel is a good thing. As long as Iran knows is place Iran has nothing to worry.

1. Stop attacking Israel with Hezbollah

2. Stop aggression and threats against other countries

3. Build up your relations not with terror funding but with trade and diplomacy.

Well, Hezbollah doesn't attack Isr, it's the other way around. Other than that, I agree. This 'influence building' has cost Iran a lot. Although many Iranians would say: if not fighting them in Syria etc, they'd be at our borders. Anyway, I hope the future brings peace and trade, instead of this islamic/middle eastern orgy of violence. With China and India booming, this entire region could prosper and thrive.

So what you think how we will be able to protect Islam and Islamic countries from West invaders ?
How to protect another Muslim country from being IRAQ , PALESTINE, AFGHANISTAN ??
In fact, this move can bind us together .
UN have it's own army NATO.. now tell me where is NATO and UN standing While Myanmar is killing it's muslim Population ? If UN can have NATO ,, So Why not any Army of O.I.C ?
From Islamic Army and Bases in other Muslim countries i didn't mean to simply just Attack other countries from those bases .. They must be on protection mode only.. Just in case of any Crusades, We will have many platforms to tackle them..

I think you're not seeing it correctly. The West doesn't need to invade these countries anymore. Dumb cowboy Bushs thought they could do it and it cost them dearly. The West just pitches one idiotic muslim against the other (nothing to do with religion). Or do you think it's christians fighting in Syria and Iraq?

 

[RealNapster]

With investing education to create questioner/intelligent/well-behaved nation; industry to add educated population into active process to produce strategic assets; perfect justice that citizens feel themselves to be in safe hands, never let discriminations; A real democracy to remove obstacles in front of all type free opinions; secularizm not to waste time for differences on religious discussions repeating itself on governmental issues but I should add that In current situation, It is no need to protect Muslims from outsiders, because Muslims kill eachothers more than foreigners did.

Muslim killing Muslims.. Agree
Who can Stop them ??? We (PAKSITAN) and You (TURKEY)..
KSA is acting childish plus foolish , So it must be us to stop them . Iran can be whatever but is an Islamic country *Our brother country..
Education .. Yes . 100% agree.
But what say Islam, Quraan, Hdiath about defense ?
What does Quran mention about the preparations of war? | Questions on Islam

let be the Sultan Salah-ud-din Ayobi and Noor-ud-din Zanghi of this era.. if we not BUT Islam needs Unity..