Turks sign deal with Qatar for military base in Qater

[flamer84]

They must be on protection mode only.. Just in case of any Crusades, We will have many platforms to tackle them..

 

[Timur]

provocative

this is nothing...

its more provocative to put iranian generals or else to syria, to make a deal with pkk and to build missles wich are capable of hitting istanbul.. and I do not have to talk about irans activity in Irak.. also there are other thinks mentioned by other pdf users..

 

[xenon54 out]

Considering that I had countered that bs news a hundred times, at least from you, I expected more.

Iran has never threatened to 'bomb Turkey if Israel attacks Iran', even a 2 year old would understand that it doesn't make sense. This is what Iran said:

"We will attack NATO radars in Turkey if they intercept Iranian missiles going towards Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran".

Do you see the difference? I will bring another example if it's too hard to understand since I have repeated this numerous times: Let's assume there is a war between Turkey and Armenia and Turkish planes are on their way to bomb Armenia and then Iran shoots down Turkish planes, is it an act of war or not?

But I'm sure you won't get it this time too, because it's lovely to be a hot headed nationalist, answering to non existent attack threats against your country on internet, which is exactly what you are doing now. Even you 'think tank', @cabatli_53 did it again, which is a shame of course.

And btw, not, Iran doesn't give a $hit about some Turkish soldiers in Qatar, because they are no threat to us. But a missile defense shield in Turkey that is trying to intercept our missiles? Indeed it is a threat, because it means Turkish soil is being used against us, in a possible war that has nothing to do with Turkey. Put your bias aside and tell me if that isn't logical.

Calm down champion and read my first reply regarding the issue, its the exact same thing, i think you are the one with comprehension problem.

Well the Iranian regime sees even defensive NATO mechanisms in Turkey as a threat to itself, so i dont believe that Iran doesnt give a damn about a Turkish base next to its doorstep, not that the base would be a threat to Iran but neither is the NATO missile defense shield...

Iran threatens to bomb Turkey if U.S. or Israel attack nuclear installations | Daily Mail Online

 

[Serpentine]

Calm down champion and read my first reply regarding the issue, its the exact same thing, i think you are the one with comprehension pro

Please, if you know English well, read the title of the news you posted and you'll understand that's exactly what I tried to refute. I have repeated that dozens of times in past, but they all hit a wall it seems.

 

[xenon54 out]

Please, if you know English well, read the title of the news you posted and you'll understand that's exactly what I tried to refute. I have repeated that dozens of times in past, but they all hit a wall it seems.

So what, am i the author of that article? You are free to read the article which includes the statement from Iranian official, i dont know why you are attacking me out of nowhere once again.

 

[Serpentine]

So what, am i the author of that article? You are free to read the article which includes the statement from Iranian official, i dont know why you are attacking me out of nowhere once again.

Seriously? Is that how you walk away from an argument? You posted that link as a back up to what you posted. It's not like you posted a link that you disagree with, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it in first place. And I didn't 'attack' you, I just said that I have answered that allegation many times and you repeated it again.

 

[Quasar]

sooooo a guy here says

''This is what Iran said:''

"We will attack NATO radars in Turkey if they intercept Iranian missiles going towards Israel after an Israeli attack on Iran".


Such a stupid statement even for iranian standarts! tell us what is wrong with this sentence hahahaha ok lets start with how the f... a radar intercepts a miisile going towards Israel ???

 

[IR-TR]

this is nothing...

its more provocative to put iranian generals or else to syria, to make a deal with pkk and to build missles wich are capable of hitting istanbul.. and I do not have to talk about irans activity in Irak.. also there are other thinks mentioned by other pdf users..

Look, the PKK thing, I agree. But it cuts both ways. There are plenty of people in Turkey who think Iran has 25 million 'Turks' that need 'saving'. I mean making 'deals' with them. Missiles capable of hitting Istanbul? Missiles are designed for targets, and their distance. So if you can hit your goal, there are bound to be other targets within range, that weren't the goal. Like saying Iran can hit Dehli. Not going to happen. The Syria thing, again, not meant against Turkey. Heck, maybe it is my Iranian side acting up. I would be very proud of Turkey opening foreign bases otherwise, but the location of this base makes me want it to not happen.

 

[xenon54 out]

Seriously? Is that how you walk away from an argument? You posted that link as a back up to what you posted. It's not like you posted a link that you disagree with, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it in first place. And I didn't 'attack' you, I just said that I have answered that allegation many times and you repeated it again.

I posted it because of the Iranian statement, you can disagree with anything in that article but you cant change the statement, can you?

And you call it a allegation, did that officer made that statement or not? Stop playing games dude.

 

[Timur]

Missiles capable of hitting Istanbul?

dont worry this was just to show they way of your argumentation is 3000 soildiers are in qatar are nothing.. if it were 30.000 than yes it would be a threat..

The Syria thing, again, not meant against Turkey

really I know some lebanese and Iranians dont tell me this is not against turkey.. just look at this forum you see the iranian mentality and the way they think..

'Turks' that need 'saving'

I also think they should be saved.. also I know how they (persians) call them if they show that they are turks.. if they do the iranian thing than everything is fine..


by the way I am curious.. I wonder wich part of you is iranian (father/mother)

 

[BordoEnes]

Look, the PKK thing, I agree. But it cuts both ways. There are plenty of people in Turkey who think Iran has 25 million 'Turks' that need 'saving'. I mean making 'deals' with them. Missiles capable of hitting Istanbul? Missiles are designed for targets, and their distance. So if you can hit your goal, there are bound to be other targets within range, that weren't the goal. Like saying Iran can hit Dehli. Not going to happen. The Syria thing, again, not meant against Turkey. Heck, maybe it is my Iranian side acting up. I would be very proud of Turkey opening foreign bases otherwise, but the location of this base makes me want it to not happen.

Your leaning to much on your iranian side. Turkey opening a base in Qatar is nothing compared to the aggresive acts that Iran did, whilst in the meantime still preaching about 'Peace'. This does not mean we will ever use this against Iran, however considering the BS we put up with from Iran, this is the least we can do as a response. You should know that Iran is not the type of Nation that can be reasoned with, proper military response seems to be the only thing that can get these Mullahs barking.

 

[IR-TR]

Your leaning to much on your iranian side. Turkey opening a base in Qatar is nothing compared to the aggresive acts that Iran did, whilst in the meantime still preaching about 'Peace'. This does not mean we will ever use this against Iran, however considering the BS we put up with from Iran, this is the least we can do as a response. You should know that Iran is not the type of Nation that can be reasoned with, proper military response seems to be the only thing that can get these Mullahs barking.

Well not really. As I said, if it's only a pet on the head for the Qatari's, I'm all for it. It gets Turkey prestige, and hopefully lots of cheap gas and Qatari investments (in actual worthy things, not building mosques and spreading wahabbism in Turkey). You make me sound as if I love mullahs, I don't, but it's really the only plausible thing for now. And as for them being idiotic, google US generals and politicians calling Iran a rational actor (Stanley Mcchrystal etc). It's just the looks of it are very ugly, and the past has been ugly. Believe it or not, Iran is very much on the defensive, not the offensive.

dont worry this was just to show they way of your argumentation is 3000 soildiers are in qatar are nothing.. if it were 30.000 than yes it would be a threat..



really I know some lebanese and Iranians dont tell me this is not against turkey.. just look at this forum you see the iranian mentality and the way they think..



I also think they should be saved.. also I know how they (persians) call them if they show that they are turks.. if they do the iranian thing than everything is fine..


by the way I am curious.. I wonder wich part of you is iranian (father/mother)

Come on, mentality? It's a bunch of fanboys. Looking at this forum is NOT representative of any represented country The Pakistanis would have you believe they could own India in two days of fighting. The Taiwanese would have you believe China is a small mosquito. The Iranians would think they own the middle east AND central asia. Turks think their country stretches from Berlin (or Amsterdam) all the way to Beijing. It's called fanboyism (look at WAFF's greeks also). Anyway, you're right, 3000 soldiers aren't going to shift the balance, but what if a few years from now, a lot of maritime power is moved to Qatar (as some people in this thread said). I mean China and the US get into each others hair for just building a little island in the middle of the pacific ocean. Anyway, thank god neither country is too stupid to attack each other. If Iran's sanctions are lifted, expect a nice boost in Turkey's economy as a benefit.

About persians/azeri's. I don't know too much about the internal aspects of that. All I know is that the same could be said about Kurds in Turkey. But Azeris actually have an outsized influence in Iran's politics and economy. That can't be said for the Kurds in Turkey (nor in Iran honestly). Anyway, I shouldn't compare Kurds to Azeris. And about the saving, don't kid yourself. It was the Azeris that fought the Ottomans for so long. And besides, it's an internal thing. That MHP mentality gets on my nerves real bad. That makes me 'lean on the Iranian side' too much, foreign meddling is always a no-no. Let Turkey save itself first, with that Guneydogu problem.

My dad is Iranian and my mom is Turkish.

 

[atatwolf]

It is not the first thread where @IR-TR identity crises creeps up again. He is apparently half Turkish. Being half Turkish doesn't mean you are Turkish. I told you this before. There are people that have 0% Turkish blood and are more Turk than you. There is nothing wrong with having criticism on Turkey's foreign policy but to completely be silent on Iran's foreign policy in Syria and Yemen and then have a big mouth about a potential Turkish base only shows one thing. Turks express criticism on Turkish foreign policy all the time but I have never seen an Iranian expressing criticism on the Mullah. Have you ever expressed criticism about the Mullah?

 

[IR-TR]

It is not the first thread where @IR-TR identity crises creeps up again. He is apparently half Turkish. Being half Turkish doesn't mean you are Turkish. I told you this before. There are people that have 0% Turkish blood and are more Turk than you. There is nothing wrong with having criticism on Turkey's foreign policy but to completely be silent on Iran's foreign policy in Syria and Yemen and then have a big mouth about a potential Turkish base only shows one thing. Turks express criticism on Turkish foreign policy all the time but I have never seen an Iranian expressing criticism on the Mullah. Have you ever expressed criticism about the Mullah?

Hey, if Iran put 3000 soldiers near Bodrum in Greece, I'd critisize that too. If you don't believe that, I don't care. You're mistaking being Turkish with being a nationalist. Perhaps I would have been if I was 100% Turkish. And about Iran's foreign policy, that's mostly aimed against the GCC, not Turkey. If you look at my posting history, you'd notice that too. I don't fight with Turks since I agree many times, I fight with the crazy wahabbis from Saudistan, since they are the opposite side, not Turkey. Syria and Yemen (Iran doesn't even do anything in Yemen) have NOTHING to do with Turkey, aside from sharing a border. Or do you think those couple of Iranian advisers in Syria want to invade Anatolia next? Think about it. Iran and Turkey share big borders. Anyway, I don't need you to tell me what I am and am not. And I don't need to prove anything either. Nationalism is a sign of weakness and lack of enlightenment anyway. No go wave that big three moon flag.

 

[atatwolf]

Hey, if Iran put 3000 soldiers near Bodrum in Greece, I'd critisize that too.

That is not the point. Iran can put forces in Greece if it wants. My question was why do you never express criticism on the poisonous foreign policy of Iran?

If you don't believe that, I don't care. You're mistaking being Turkish with being a nationalist.

What is the difference between being Turkish and being a Turkish nationalist?

Perhaps I would have been if I was 100% Turkish. And about Iran's foreign policy, that's mostly aimed against the GCC, not Turkey. If you look at my posting history, you'd notice that too. I don't fight with Turks since I agree many times, I fight with the crazy wahabbis from Saudistan, since they are the opposite side, not Turkey. Syria and Yemen (Iran doesn't even do anything in Yemen) have NOTHING to do with Turkey, aside from sharing a border. Or do you think those couple of Iranian advisers in Syria want to invade Anatolia next? Think about it. Iran and Turkey share big borders. Anyway, I don't need you to tell me what I am and am not. And I don't need to prove anything either. Nationalism is a sign of weakness and lack of enlightenment anyway. No go wave that big three moon flag.

Others already told you how Iran is threatening Turkish security by their poisonous foreign policy. If Iran wants to help Turkey they can stop killing Syrians and help 4 million Syrians that are in Turkey. How many Syrian refugees did Iran accept? About Saudi Arabia, with foreign policy that you support (Iranian foreign policy) you don't have the right to criticize anybody. You don't have to tell us what you are or what you are not. We already know what you are.