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Solomon2 Just out of curiosity, have you ever laid blame on anything the State of Israel or the US has done, past or present? I might have missed your crusading for justice by mentioning only the ills of your enemy.
Apparently you don't read me enough or you'd see such. But isn't the deeper problem for Muslims - especially those whose societies are stained with blood - that the collective moral conduct of Israel's Jews towards their fellow human beings, both Jews and non-Jews, is far higher not only than current Muslim societies, but also what most Muslims see as the perfection they should strive for in Islam itself? There just are many fewer severe problems, both spiritual and governmental, to cite about Israel and American than there are in Muslim-majority countries.
For example, many of the posters here are aware that Israel provides much aid to the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza, even though many of these same Arabs hate Israel immensely. You may wonder why, given that Israel is the stronger party, it does so. Even if you consider these areas "occupied" Israel provides far greater services than those required under international law. The ultimate reason - even for non-observant Jews who don't know why but feel doing so is the right thing - is that by doing so Israel is performing a pure form of charity called
chesed. In most forms of charity human beings ultimately expect some material or human benefit in return. In
chesed one gives without expecting any return. I can't imagine any form of chesed more pure than that of giving to your mortal enemy critical medical care, even though you expect he or she will continue to hate you afterward.
Yes, the only benefit Jews can be certain they receive for aiding their enemies in distress is a spiritual one.
I've noted that while I've met Muslims who feel this is a spiritual calling, apparently they can cite no echo of
chesed in Islamic thought or practice, which implies that ultimately these Muslims must find Islam - at least as currently practiced today - spiritually unsatisfactory.
Unless, of course, facts are disregarded and Israel and Jews are totally
demonized instead. Then Muslims can convince themselves they are O.K., yes?
Yet there is another route, isn't there? That of noting that if Islam is supposed to be the best yet the Jews and Christians are demonstrably better, than maybe Muslims aren't interpreting Islam correctly. There are many different branches of Islam, I know, but very few are willing to take that step today, yes?
...All the turks or tatars(they are distinguishable for me) I know speak their language and are muslims and they rarely marry outside their ethnicity so their customs are pretty much preserved.
