Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[OguzSenturk]

how effective the Gun will be against Pick Ups and groups of Insurgents.

I didn't say anything against it? I actually didnt say anything about it to be answered. I just said that 3 T-129 with cirit missiles could be a game changer, which is a fact.

 

[T-123456]

Your full of sh*t, i'm not defending Assad or the Iraqi's, but these Daesh fucks do know how to fight, and they do use plenty of weapons not just against ES fighters, but also against the Assad regime and Iraqi forces.

Assad regime sees both the FSA rebels and Daesh scum as terrorist (understandable). Furthermore you claim that Assad lets Daesh take airbases, what?. Ever seen the amount of ATGM's and SVBIED's used by these Daesh scums to take those airbases. IDK about you guys, but we should stop pointing the finger towards the Assad regime, we have 2 common enemy, Daesh and the Kurds (YPG/PKK, fucking subhuman shits).

Did you even read what he wrote,did you understand what he meant?
What he was trying to say is that there must be some kind of deal between all of the mentioned above,except us.

Funny how ISIS only attacks "Assads troops" lightly while attacking FSA and our troops with everything they have.

Funny how they say they fight against iran and shiites but have killed only sunnites and never attack iran directly.

Funny how they start attacking rebels from one front the moment "assads troops" attack them from one front but never attack each other.

Funny how assad call rebels terrorists but lets ISIS take airbases.

Funny indeed isn't it?

That is nothing new,im sure our leadership knows whats going on.

 

[JustHappened]

I just scanned the news , no reports about Turkish Soldiers KIA . No proof that yesterday a Turkish Helicopter was shot down. Seems fake or Hoax, propaganda of DAESH and YPG. Contrary to that news ES is now also combatting and shelling YPG at Afrin. ES besieged Al-Bab completely from North- and East and SAA from South and West. Source AFP

 

[Orez]

our full of sh*t, i'm not defending Assad or the Iraqi's, but these Daesh fucks do know how to fight, and they do use plenty of weapons not just against ES fighters, but also against the Assad regime and Iraqi forces.

Some of what he say is right.
Both Assad and Isis want to destroy the rebell first, which permit to Assad to say "it either me or Deach" to the world and Daech want the same thing because that permit him to gather all Assad's opponent under its flags.

 

[what]

Some of what he say is right.
Both Assad and Isis want to destroy the rebell first, which permit to Assad to say "it either me or Deach" to the world and Daech want the same thing because that permit him to gather all Assad's opponent under its flags.

I think we're a bit under a wrong impression because we consume only Turkish/FSA news.
ISIS has taken Palmyra and attacked SAA plenty of times in the past weeks, days. We're just not paying that much attention to it.

SAA is facing little resistance south of Al-Bab, similar to how we steam-rolled in the first weeks. ISIS only really fought back in important places like Aktharin, Dabiq or the cluster around Al-Bab.

 

[JustHappened]

Let's share some facts and try to contribute your discussion in a constructive way.
Palmyra and region was taken by a DAESH force almost 20000.
Against crippled SAA with no real airstrike possibility.
I don't know why, but Turkey doesn't use brute force. Maybe a deal ?
F-16's have max mach 2 at 50000 ft. Never Mach 3 !
They are capable to use ASELPOD and can target tanks from 15 km and use laser guided Paveway or similar types,
illuminated by whom else ever, at cruise or CAS speed at 380 mph.
There is no weakness of Turkish Forces.
They do the job with an unconventional tactic .
Spec Ops, some dozen tanks, 1 brigade, artillery and air precision strikes and a few FSA mainly Türkmen Syrian fighters. God bless them all.

 

[T-123456]

I think we're a bit under a wrong impression because we consume only Turkish/FSA news.
ISIS has taken Palmyra and attacked SAA plenty of times in the past weeks, days. We're just not paying that much attention to it.

SAA is facing little resistance south of Al-Bab, similar to how we steam-rolled in the first weeks. ISIS only really fought back in important places like Aktharin, Dabiq or the cluster around Al-Bab.

You cant lose something like Palmyra twice,especially when the whole world is watching,it is to important for Assad's ''prestige''.
The news was that ISIS steamrolled the SAA defences in Palmyra again,he could have avoided that or he is using Palmyra again for PR(what i think).

 

[Orez]

You cant lose something like Palmyra twice,especially when the whole world is watching,it is to important for Assad's ''prestige''.
The news was that ISIS steamrolled the SAA defences in Palmyra again,he could have avoided that or he is using Palmyra again for PR(what i think).

Do you know how Palmyre was taken the second time ? Because Assad has send much of his army against Alep.
Palmyra is only symbolic, it dosn't have strategist importance, and Assad don't care a bit about "prestige" because already the whole word seing like tyrant, and the only reason he still in power it not prestige but his army and Russian help.

Of course I don't say that he dosn't fight Isis, or Isis don't fight against Assad, only for Assad and Isis their priority was to win against the rebell first, that will renforce Assad strategie saying "Me or Daech" and Deach plan too because they will be the only fighting force against Assad which would help them to recruit more.

 

[ptldM3]

Funny how ISIS only attacks "Assads troops" lightly while attacking FSA and our troops with everything they have.

By lightly, do you mean tanks, IFVs, and VBIEDs?

Funny how they say they fight against iran and shiites but have killed only sunnites and never attack iran directly.

You are clueless, Isis has taken Shia, Christian, and Sunni villages. Majority of forces fighting Isis in Syria and Iraq are Shia.

Funny how they start attacking rebels from one front the moment "assads troops" attack them from one front but never attack each other.

You don't know jack. Just stay quite. The Syria military has been attacking Isis every chance they get while the "rebels" and Isis as well as Al Nusra have conducted joint operations.

Funny how assad call rebels terrorists but lets ISIS take airbases.

Again, you don't know jack. Syrian forces held out against Isis attacks for over 2 years at the Kweiras air base, the T-4 airbase west of Palmyra had haulted an Isis advance and pushed them back, currently Deir-Ez zor and an important air base in the city has been under seige for years and resisting. Air bases west of Aleppo have been defending against Isis attacks as well.

Funny indeed isn't it?

Your igonorance? Yes it's funny.

 

[era_shield]

By lightly, do you mean tanks, IFVs, and VBIEDs?







You are clueless, Isis has taken Shia, Christian, and Sunni villages. Majority of forces fighting Isis in Syria and Iraq are Shia.







You don't know jack. Just stay quite. The Syria military has been attacking Isis every chance they get while the "rebels" and Isis as well as Al Nusra have conducted joint operations.







Again, you don't know jack. Syrian forces held out against Isis attacks for over 2 years at the , the T-4 airbase west of Palmyra had haulted an Isis advance and pushed them back, currently Deir-Ez zor and an important air base in the city has been under seige for years and resisting. Air bases west of Aleppo have been defending against Isis attacks as well.










Your igonorance? Yes it's funny.

Every time you post, everyone who reads it gets a tiny bit dumber. Stop making the world dumber. Take your braindead Russian propaganda and vomit it up somewhere else.

 

[OguzSenturk]

He is right tho. It is not russian propaganda. IS fought against everyside. Yes Assad buy oil from IS, but its not because they love IS, its because lack of supply.

 

[ptldM3]

Every time you post, everyone who reads it gets a tiny bit dumber. Stop making the world dumber. Take your braindead Russian propaganda and vomit it up somewhere else.

Cute insult, now how about we debate with facts. Now name one piece of "Russian propaganda" I posted. Everything I said can be backed with sources. Are you really questing the fact all those airbases I named were not under attack by Isis?

I'm waiting for your rebuttal with soures otherwise stop spreading fake garbage like your friend.

 

[Jackal131]

Plenty of nonsense in here. If TR military killed as many ISIS fighters as Assad or his allies, we would be setting up a police force in Al bab and reopening schools already. Stop talking shit. SAA has fought ISIS far more than our military has end of story.

On top of that, isnt it a bit ironic to accuse the SAA or Iran of helping ISIS when our very own MIT was shipping them weapons and our countries businessmen were buying oil from them. Our very own tanks are getting blown up by TOWs in ISIS hands that the scumbags in MIT shipped into Syria for years without caring who gets them.


Cut the shit lads, the most idiotic thing we can do is sit here, as Turks, and accuse the SAA of being pro ISIS. Our nation has plenty of shit on its boot in the name of being a US ally.

 

[JustHappened]

On top of that, isnt it a bit ironic to accuse the SAA or Iran of helping ISIS when our very own MIT was shipping them weapons and our countries businessmen were buying oil from them. Our very own tanks are getting blown up by TOWs in ISIS hands that the scumbags in MIT shipped into Syria for years without caring who gets them.

How could you write this accuses ? Aren't you a retired Turkish special Forces ?

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

Plenty of nonsense in here. If TR military killed as many ISIS fighters as Assad or his allies, we would be setting up a police force in Al bab and reopening schools already. Stop talking shit. SAA has fought ISIS far more than our military has end of story.

On top of that, isnt it a bit ironic to accuse the SAA or Iran of helping ISIS when our very own MIT was shipping them weapons and our countries businessmen were buying oil from them. Our very own tanks are getting blown up by TOWs in ISIS hands that the scumbags in MIT shipped into Syria for years without caring who gets them.


Cut the shit lads, the most idiotic thing we can do is sit here, as Turks, and accuse the SAA of being pro ISIS. Our nation has plenty of shit on its boot in the name of being a US ally.

The justification of Russia/Iran/Assad moves over Turkish involement in Syria needs more than hysterics in your stance.

The ISIS has relation with Iran/Syria.

Russia has link with ISIS.