Turkish Navy Mulls Buying Long-Range Patrol Aircraft

[Zarvan]

Turkish Navy Mulls Buying Long-Range Patrol Aircraft

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  A US Navy P-8 Poseidon is parked on a tarmac. The Turkish Navy is considering the purchase of long-range patrol aircraft such as the P-8, officials said.
  
  ANKARA, Turkey — The Turkish Navy is considering the purchase of long-range patrol aircraft to add to its fleet of CN-235 and ATR72s, navy and procurement officials said.
  
  
  “The requirement comes in line with the government’s foreign policy priorities,” explained one procurement official.
  
  Navy officials say the planned aircraft should be able to fly 1,000 to 1,200 nautical miles away from their main base in Turkey and fly 12 to 15 hours.
  
  “Our current fleet may not respond to our future roles,” said one Navy official. “The new patrol aircraft should ideally have anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare roles.”
  
  
  Naval industry sources say the Turkish description of the requirement would probably point to the Boeing P-8 Poseidon (formerly the Multimission Maritime Aircraft or MMA). The P-8 Poseidon was developed for the US Navy by Boeing Defense, Space & Security, modified from the 737-800ERX.

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  The P-8 also conducts shipping interdiction, along with an electronic signals intelligence role which involves carrying torpedoes, depth charges, SLAM-ER missiles, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, and other weapons. It is able to drop and monitor sonobuoys. The aircraft is designed to operate in conjunction with the Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton Broad Area Maritime Surveillance unmanned aerial vehicle.
  
  Procurement officials say they hope to issue a request for information for the planned acquisition soon.
  
  “We are hoping to see a competitive contest,” one official said.
  
  But industry sources say the description of the acquisition narrows options.
  
  “There will not be too many bidders, judging from the description of the requirement,” said one source.

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[T-123456]

Is there something comparable to the P-8 on the ''open'' market?

 

[Zarvan]

Is there something comparable to the P-8 on the ''open'' market?

Kawasaki P1 of Japan

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

Is there something comparable to the P-8 on the ''open'' market?

P 3C orion is also good ASW and long range patrol AC

 

[T-123456]

P 3C orion is also good ASW and long range patrol AC

I meant other then US systems.

 

[Syed Asif Bukhari]

I meant other then US systems.

well , no other aircraft comes near to US one in term of technology.

 

[xenon54 out]

What exactly is a Patrol Aircraft doing?

 

[Skaði]

What exactly is a Patrol Aircraft doing?

Checking up on the neighbors of course

Those pesky Greeks and Damn Commies aren't going to spy on themselves.

Realistically an MPA is going to be used for monitoring maritime traffic. Non-friendly ship movements, fisherman, assisting with rescue ops such as a downed airliner, drug, weapons or people smuggling interdiction, piracy, searching for or monitoring migrant traffic and a bit of espionage on the side.

Our P-3Ns helped find a C-130 that crashed into a mountain:

And assist with counter-piracy off the East African coast:

There's a lot of naval traffic around Turkey and a lot of socioeconomic problems like wars, instability, militants and migrants that would necessitate an MPA for monitoring these domains.

 

[xenon54 out]

Checking up on the neighbors of course

Those pesky Greeks and Damn Commies aren't going to spy on themselves.

Realistically an MPA is going to be used for monitoring maritime traffic. Non-friendly ship movements, fisherman, assisting with rescue ops such as a downed airliner, drug, weapons or people smuggling interdiction, piracy, searching for or monitoring migrant traffic and a bit of espionage on the side.

There's a lot of naval traffic around Turkey and a lot of socioeconomic problems like wars, instability, militants and migrants that would necessitate an MPA for monitoring these domains.

Something like Awacs for Navy then, thx for explanation.

 

[Babur Han]

Is there something comparable to the P-8 on the ''open'' market?

The Airbus A-319 MPA.

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/a319mpa/

There's a lot of naval traffic around Turkey and a lot of socioeconomic problems like wars, instability, militants and migrants that would necessitate an MPA for monitoring these domains.

This Job do CN-235 and ATR-72-600 MPA around Turkey for the Aegean, Black Sea and eastern Mediterran they are enough ! The long Range MPA is needet for the Seas around the arabian Peninsula, the western Mediterran and moroccan atlantic Coast.

 

[Babur Han]

Turkey could be a future game changer with UA - AN and TAI

Antonov and TRJ-628 came also in to my Mind as Alternatives for future long Range MPA, I also doubt the US will provide Turkey Plattform which can conduct ASW and Intelligence Missions in the arabian Sea as well north West Africa. It's possible too that the US would also refuse Integration of turkish made Sensors,Avionics and Weapon systems in P-8.

P_8 or similar Aircraft in Turkeys Hands could change strategic Balance in these important Regions.

 

[Azeri440]

What exactly is a Patrol Aircraft doing?

for long range ones its mostly ASW (anti-submarine warfare) and ASUW (anti-surface warfare)
Turkish Navy and Coast Guard both have CN-235-100M, so they will have the luxury of using these for patrol missions
and specify the role of P-8 or alternative one as a main fleet support aircraft, hunting for subs to protect the future carrier battle fleet.

 

[BordoEnes]

Sweet. We should preferably find other alternatives beside the US but the Poseidon is a well known reliable ASW/ASUW plane.

 

[UkroTurk]

Other Patrol Aircrafts
Hawker Siddeley Nimrod

• Empty weight: 39,009 kg (86,000 lb)
• Max. takeoff weight: 87,090 kg (192,000 lb)
• Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Spey turbofans, 54.09 kN (12,160 lbf) each
• • Maximum speed: 923 km/h (575 mph)
  • Cruise speed: 787 km/h (490 mph)
  • Range: 8,340–9,265 km (5,180–5,755 mi)
  • Service ceiling: 13,411 m (44,000 ft
  Hardpoints: 2× under-wing pylon stations and an internal bomb bay with a capacity of 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) and provisions to carry combinations
  
  • Missiles: ***Air-to-air missile: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinder (non-standard in RAF service, only mounted on the MR2 during the Falklands War)
    • Air-to-surface missile: Nord AS.12, Martel missile, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-84 Harpoon
  • Bombs: ***Depth charges, US-owned B57 nuclear depth bombs (2) (until 1992)[94]
  • Other: ***Air-dropped Mk.46 torpedoes, Sting Ray torpedoes
    • Naval mines
    • Sonobuoys

Aircraft also has A-A Sidewinder missiles

Breguet Br.1150 Atlantic
Ferry Range 9500km
Endurance 18 hours

Russian patrol aircrafts

Ilyushin Il-38 and Tu142

Chinese

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Other Patrol Aircrafts
Hawker Siddeley Nimrod

• Empty weight: 39,009 kg (86,000 lb)
• Max. takeoff weight: 87,090 kg (192,000 lb)
• Powerplant: 4 × Rolls-Royce Spey turbofans, 54.09 kN (12,160 lbf) each
• • Maximum speed: 923 km/h (575 mph)
  • Cruise speed: 787 km/h (490 mph)
  • Range: 8,340–9,265 km (5,180–5,755 mi)
  • Service ceiling: 13,411 m (44,000 ft
  Hardpoints: 2× under-wing pylon stations and an internal bomb bay with a capacity of 20,000 lb (9,100 kg) and provisions to carry combinations
  
  • Missiles: ***Air-to-air missile: 2× AIM-9 Sidewinder (non-standard in RAF service, only mounted on the MR2 during the Falklands War)
    • Air-to-surface missile: Nord AS.12, Martel missile, AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-84 Harpoon
  • Bombs: ***Depth charges, US-owned B57 nuclear depth bombs (2) (until 1992)[94]
  • Other: ***Air-dropped Mk.46 torpedoes, Sting Ray torpedoes
    • Naval mines
    • Sonobuoys

Aircraft also has A-A Sidewinder missiles

The Nimrod has been out of production for quite some time.
It was based on the De Havilland Comet, the worlds first commercial passenger jet.
Something newer is recommended .