Turkish Navy Mulls Buying Long-Range Patrol Aircraft

[UkroTurk]

Tu22M3s was made against bigships, some Tu16s are used for naval patrolling.

Chinese H6k(Copy of Tu16)
with antiship miissiles.

LongeRange Strategic Patrol aircraft.
7000km range with cruise missiles.
What apitty Turkey dont have.
Egypt even has TU16s.

The Nimrod has been out of production for quite some time.
It was based on the De Havilland Comet, the worlds first commercial passenger jet.
Something newer is recommended .

Nimrod arent produced , May be the UK doesnt need this kind of aircrafts?
Why dont the UK produce any aircrafts ? interesting.
Great platform I like it.

 

[Oublious]

Tu22M3s was made against bigships, some Tu16s are used for naval patrolling.

Chinese H6k(Copy of Tu16)
with antiship miissiles.

LongeRange Strategic Patrol aircraft.
7000km range with cruise missiles.
What apitty Turkey dont have.
Egypt even has TU16s.



Nimrod arent produced , May be the UK doesnt need this kind of aircrafts?
Why dont the UK produce any aircrafts ? interesting.
Great platform I like it.

expensive price, maintenance and toooo big.

 

[UkroTurk]

expensive price, maintenance and toooo big.

But enough range for all seas.
Egypt even has a lot of Tu16. Egypt has long range patrolling capability in the Mediterrian.
İ dont think They are much expensive.

 

[Oublious]

But enough range for all seas.
Egypt even has a lot of Tu16. Egypt has long range patrolling capability in the Mediterrian.
İ dont think They are much expensive.

Are they all operational? And the russian are not very good with building like the western, it have to be best and cheap to mantanence western. Look what kind missile it can fire, do we have that like missiles?

Junk system if egypt had the money they would buy western.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Are they all operational? And the russian are not very good with building like the western, it have to be best and cheap to mantanence western. Look what kind missile it can fire, do we have that like missiles?

Junk system if egypt had the money they would buy western.

The had them during the six-day war.
I think they are long gone.

 

[UkroTurk]

I didnt mean buying Russian TU16's or Chinese H6K.
But Turkey could try to produce this kind ofaircrafts.
Because TU16 plaftorm most simple and reliable platform for strategic commands.
They are not supersonic but they have reliable wing form like a passenger planes.
Their landing speed is not high.
They are cost effective, fuel efficient, low cost flights.
They dont need engines with after burner.
Producing these strategic planes, wont be a big problem for Turkey.
If you use compozit materials you will discrease Radar Cross Section as B1.



Chinese H6k is a new aircraft. They are being produced. They have new tech radars, sensors.

They are loaded with new Antship missiles.
Absolutely They are operational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_H-6




The H-6K, first flying on 5 January 2007,entered service in October 2009 during the celebrations of the 60th anniversary of the People's Republic of China,and is claimed to make China the fourth country with a strategic bomber after US, Russia and the United Kingdom.
With a reinforced structure making use of composite materials,enlarged engine inlets for Russian Soloviev D-30turbofan engines giving a claimed Range: 7,000 km ,combat radius of 3,500 kilometres (2,200 mi),a glass cockpit with large size LCD multi-function display, and a reworked nose section eliminating the glazed navigator's station in favour of a more powerful radar,
the H-6K is a significantly more modern aircraft than earlier versions. The bomb bay has been replaced by extra fuel capacity, and six underwing pylons for CJ-10A cruise missiles. The rear 23mm guns and gunner position are replaced by electronic components.

The H-6K is designed for long-range attacks and stand-off attacks. It is considered as a strategic bomber. It is capable of attacking US carrier battle groups and priority targets in Asia. This aircraft has nuclear strike capability.

In January 2009, it was reported that an indigenous turbofan engine, the WS-18, was under development for use in the H-6K.

In 2015, about 15 H-6Ks were in service.

 

[Babur Han]

LongeRange Strategic Patrol aircraft.
7000km range with cruise missiles.
What apitty Turkey dont have.
Egypt even has TU16s.

In the first 2000's Egypt put TU-16 out of Service. For what Egypt should use them ? They have no Cruise Missiles in Service as well the US or Europe have no interest to sell advanced ALCM to Egypt and Egypt Defence Industry have not the Know How for development and production of an advanced ALCM.

I didnt mean buying Russian TU16's or Chinese H6K.
But Turkey could try to produce this kind ofaircrafts.
Because TU16 plaftorm most simple and reliable platform for strategic commands.
They are not supersonic but they have reliable wing form like a passenger planes.
Their landing speed is not high.
They are cost effective, fuel efficient, low cost flights.
They dont need engines with after burner.
Producing these strategic planes, wont be a big problem for Turkey.
If you use compozit materials you will discrease Radar Cross Section as B1.



Chinese H6k is a new aircraft. They are being produced. They have new tech radars, sensors.

They are loaded with new Antship missiles.
Absolutely They are operational.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_H-6

Have Turkey Blueprints for TU-16 Aircraft ? The Design is outdated for Todays strategic Bomber Requirements, TU-16 could only be usefull as a Cruise Missile Truck and Tanker. It can not penetrate an integrated Air Defence Network and could release Swarm of HGK,KGK and Teber smart Bombs deep behind Enemy Lines. The Bomb Load Capacity will be to low to carry an Fuel - Air Explosive Massive Ordonance Blast, to stop an Advancement of Enemy Troops.

In Terms of strategic Power Projection Turkey Faces an different Envirement than China,China allready have H-6 in Service and need to keep them Capable to fullfill Requirements of the modern Battlefield until a new stealthy strategic Bomber will be ready to replace H-6.

 

[UkroTurk]

I've mentioned Chinese H6K not Tu16 or H6.

You cant think large. For example you are in war. X country where situated in south america or africa supports your enemy.
This X country send them supports by ships through to ocean or sea.

Or second scenary :
Enemies ( for example Greece or Egypt) frigates have just been hidden somewhere in the Mediterrian. How will you find andhit?

H6K unique for aircrat naval patrolling and attacking.

Turkey has SOM and ATMACA , cruise missiles with longer range are being produced. Why wouldnt Turkey use long range future missiles with this kind of aircrafts.

You must forget name of this subtitle. Turkey intends buying P-8 that can use Harpoons.

I've mentioned Chinese H6K not Tu16 or H6.

You cant think large. For example you are in war. X country where situated in south america or africa supports your enemy.
This X country send them supports by ships through to ocean or sea.

Or second scenary :
Enemies ( for example Greece or Egypt) frigates have just been hidden somewhere in the Mediterrian. How will you find andhit?

H6K unique for aircrat naval patrolling and attacking.

Turkey has SOM and ATMACA , cruise missiles with longer range are being produced. Why wouldnt Turkey use long range future missiles with this kind of aircrafts.

You must forget name of this subtitle. Turkey intends buying P-8 that can use Harpoons.

 

[Babur Han]

I've mentioned Chinese H6K not Tu16 or H6.

You cant think large. For example you are in war. X country where situated in south america or africa supports your enemy.
This X country send them supports by ships through to ocean or sea.

Or second scenary :
Enemies ( for example Greece or Egypt) frigates have just been hidden somewhere in the Mediterrian. How will you find andhit?

H6K unique for aircrat naval patrolling and attacking.

Turkey has SOM and ATMACA , cruise missiles with longer range are being produced. Why wouldnt Turkey use long range future missiles with this kind of aircrafts.

For Greece TN CN-235 and ATR-72-600 MPA will be enough, for the Black Sea, Aegean and eastern Mediterran Turkey need no long Range MPA. With Egypt there are some Difference because of the Support of MB, but this no Reason to go for War. Long Range Patrol Aircraft will be needed to Cover Interest in the Arabian Sea and western Maghreb.

COULD TURKEY BE CONSIDERING THE BOEING P-8 POSEIDON?







The Turkish Navy is considering the procurement of long-range maritime patrol aircraft (MPA) to augment its fleet of ATR-72 and CN-235-based MPAs.

Based on the parameters listed by the Turkish Navy, analysts believe that it is essentially looking for an MPA in the size and class of the Boeing P-8 Poseidon. In fact, the P-8 seems to be the only option available.

Comment and Analysis

While the P-8 Poseidon is basically the only existing MPA design that fits the Turkish Navy’s parameters, one should not discount the possibility of Turkey trying to produce a custom solution.

The country has been engaged in a long-enduring indigenization process across the entire spectrum of its defence needs; air, sea, land, space, electronics, etc.

It is plausible, though unlikely, that Turkey could tap into the expertise on hand with Aselsan as well as a foreign partner to develop solution akin to the P-8. One route could be to engage with Airbus Defence and Space and perhaps utilize the A320.

On the other hand, given that the Turkish Air Force already operates the Wedgetail airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) system, which uses the Boeing 737 as its platform.

Acquiring the P-8 would enable Turkey to scale the 737’s infrastructure, which in turn would enable it to save on costs. Furthermore, the P-8 is a comparatively mature and credible platform; with the U.S. and India as its current users, the P-8 was also ordered by the U.K and Australia

http://quwa.org/2016/05/26/turkey-considering-boeing-p-8-poseidon/