Turkish Navy and PM to accompany more aid ships to Gaza

[Spring Onion]

Turkey will kill a few trees and spend some Internet bandwidths in 'strongly condemning' Israel. No more. But of course...I could be wrong...

Direct military action will have some grave implication specially US, and other countries on the side of Israel, Egypt zionist regime supporting Israel, Jodan is also compromised. Saudi rulers are pathetic they cant even breath without US permission.

So i dont think so any direct action can be taken in haste BUT its time Some more countries should join Turkey. Iran, Pakistan and some more we can have an alliance for future.

 

[Aslan]

It is only your stretching to absurd level of the logical thought process that you would come up with that interpretation.

Or may be you need to get your glasses checked for a new number where you can see properly, change the batteries on your hearing aid. And also get your brain dry cleaned so that the rust could come off of it so that you could hear, see, and observe that what the hell is going on. And not come up with ridiculous counter arguments such as above. I have written so many things and all you had seen was the first line.

 

[afriend]

The Arab league and the whole of OIC have accepted the resolution by the Saudis where it says that if the jews move back to the 1967 border with full independence to the Palestinians, which I believe is a huge compromise. They will accept the Israeli state. Which has so far been resisted by the jews. They are not only not doing it but also are building the illegal settlements in the west bank which are considered illegal under international law. So as far as the racist, apartheid attitude of the jews will not change the status co will remain.

Then what is the logic behind israel not doing that? I mean have they been ready any time to discuss the logic.? What are the reasons they are giving?

And i just show the map of isreale and palistine over the eyars. pretty shocking though. But even if palestine is going to accept the 1967 borders yes ofcourse that will still be a huge sacrifice. but yes surely it would be better for their future generation and peace.

 

[gambit]

The Arab league and the whole of OIC have accepted the resolution by the Saudis where it says that if the jews move back to the 1967 border with full independence to the Palestinians, which I believe is a huge compromise. They will accept the Israeli state. Which has so far been resisted by the jews. They are not only not doing it but also are building the illegal settlements in the west bank which are considered illegal under international law. So as far as the racist, apartheid attitude of the jews will not change the status co will remain.

It is not only borders but also security. Every state has the right to demand secure borders from its neighbors. The question here is WHO is the guarantor of the border between Israel and this Palestinian state? Between Israel and Egypt we have responsible governments capable of enforcing their sides of border agreements. Like how the US and Canada are responsible governments capable of enforcing their respective laws. When the world sees Hamas and Hezbollah fighters went on a blood feud against each other there is no confidence that a responsible Palestinian government is in power.

 

[Thomas]

Turkey has threatened Israel with unprecedented action after Israeli forces attacked an aid vessel, killing 10 peace activists headed to Gaza. A shocked world has responded with outrage. Turkey recalled its ambassador to Israel and warned of unprecedented and incalculable reprisals.

Two Turkish activists were reported to be among those killed in the flotilla. Ankara warned that further supply vessels will be sent to Gaza, escorted by the Turkish Navy, a development with unpredictable consequences. Israel has sounded an alert throughout the country fearing rocket attacks by Hezbollah in Lebanon.

The Arab League has called an urgent meeting on Tuesday to decide on a common response. Egypt is under pressure to end the blockade of Gaza while Greece has cancelled a military exercise with Isreal. The world is waiting for the response from Washington, how will President Obama react to the provocation from America’s closest ally. (With inputs from Agencies) Source: Pakistan Ideology

Nawaz

They may threaten it for now becuase emotions are running high. But in the end I highly doubt Turkey will send a warship into Israels territorial waters. If they did Israel would have a right to attack it.

 

[mjnaushad]

Direct military action will have some grave implication specially US, and other countries on the side of Israel, Egypt zionist regime supporting Israel, Jodan is also compromised. Saudi rulers are pathetic they cant even breath without US permission.

So i dont think so any direct action can be taken in haste BUT its time Some more countries should join Turkey. Iran, Pakistan and some more we can have an alliance for future.

I agree on saudis. But you said Pakistan should join Turkey. Do you really think our leaders have this courage. I am not talking about the people. But our leaders are no less than saudis when it comes to being pathetic..

 

[Aslan]

There might be any issues in it. May be they where in israel waters.. or may be the activitis turned violent agains the soliders..!! May be that led to the interception into such a violent one. Other wise

My dear friend, pleasae wake up from the slumber and look at what had happen. Countless reports have come in that claimed the ship was in the international waters. The protesters were armed with stick, yes they beat some pews. But their ship was attacked by the pews in the international waters, why is this information flying over every ones head. And this line; i dont see any reason for israelis to simply go there and fire at unarmed people... May be you missed the stories of pewish war crimes completely. Google can help.

 

[gambit]

Direct military action will have some grave implication specially US, and other countries on the side of Israel, Egypt zionist regime supporting Israel, Jodan is also compromised. Saudi rulers are pathetic they cant even breath without US permission.

So i dont think so any direct action can be taken in haste BUT its time Some more countries should join Turkey. Iran, Pakistan and some more we can have an alliance for future.

Am certain a lot of prayers would not hurt the dream.

 

[Aslan]

It is not only borders but also security. Every state has the right to demand secure borders from its neighbors. The question here is WHO is the guarantor of the border between Israel and this Palestinian state? Between Israel and Egypt we have responsible governments capable of enforcing their sides of border agreements. Like how the US and Canada are responsible governments capable of enforcing their respective laws. When the world sees Hamas and Hezbollah fighters went on a blood feud against each other there is no confidence that a responsible Palestinian government is in power.

 

[apophenia]

Turkey was not responsible for the first group to start. Just because the ship was flying the Turkish flag that does not mean the trip was sanctioned by the Turkish government. May be it was but do provide an official Turkish government source saying so. If Turkey sends its navy with the intention of violating Israeli territorial waters, that would constitute an act of war.

Under article 5 of the NATO Charter, any attack on any member states of NATO is automatically regarded as an attack against all member states of NATO, requiring the member states to respond collectively against the aggressor, in defense of the member states who were attacked. its irreverent if the trip was sanctioned by Turkish government or not, two of those ships were flying the Turkish flag, so Turkey/NATO has every right to respond to the massacre that happened as Israel draws first blood. btw its not the first time Israeli forces attacked ships outside their territorial water.

 

[PakistaniWarrior]

Direct military action will have some grave implication specially US, and other countries on the side of Israel, Egypt zionist regime supporting Israel, Jodan is also compromised. Saudi rulers are pathetic they cant even breath without US permission.

So i dont think so any direct action can be taken in haste BUT its time Some more countries should join Turkey. Iran, Pakistan and some more we can have an alliance for future.

Why? This is stupid.

They don't support us and will never do this to help save the Kashmiris from Indian atrocities and we should get on our knees to help them?

What next is a Pak going advocate? We go to war with Israel and ruin ourself to save some Muslims who are not even our own people and let the Kashmiris suffer?

Some of you people are just a big JOKE.

 

[Aslan]

Then what is the logic behind israel not doing that? I mean have they been ready any time to discuss the logic.? What are the reasons they are giving?

And i just show the map of isreale and palistine over the eyars. pretty shocking though. But even if palestine is going to accept the 1967 borders yes ofcourse that will still be a huge sacrifice. but yes surely it would be better for their future generation and peace.

The Palestinians on more then one occasions have accepted the proposal, and now is some one will mention the camp david accord where Yasir Arafat refused they should also know that the pews were offering them what they are doing now so no one would have accepted that and still wont. Even Hamas have said that they will recognize the pews as nation and respect the 1967 borders.

 

[gambit]

Under article 5 of the NATO Charter, any attack on any member states of NATO is automatically regarded as an attack against all member states of NATO, requiring the member states to respond collectively against the aggressor, in defense of the member states who were attacked. its irreverent if the trip was sanctioned by Turkish government or not, two of those ships were flying the Turkish flag, so Turkey/NATO has every right to respond to the massacre that happened as Israel draws first blood. btw its not the first time Israeli forces attacked ships outside their territorial water.

It is very relevant if this trip was sponsored by the Turkish government. If the trip was sponsored, it is a tacit declaration that whoever is in charge of the fleet was acting on behalf of the Turkish government. What you are implying is dangerous in that any member of any alliance can exploit the alliance's rules to drag the alliance into a war the other members may not believe to be justifiable.

 

[xenia]

i ve heard another ship is heading towards gaza strip n israel has said it would meet the same fate...seems the issue will be long than expected!!n indirectly israel is endorsing its the aggressor!

 

[Thomas]

Under article 5 of the NATO Charter, any attack on any member states of NATO is automatically regarded as an attack against all member states of NATO, requiring the member states to respond collectively against the aggressor, in defense of the member states who were attacked. its irreverent if the trip was sanctioned by Turkish government or not, two of those ships were flying the Turkish flag, so Turkey/NATO has every right to respond to the massacre that happened as Israel draws first blood. btw its not the first time Israeli forces attacked ships outside their territorial water.

Nato is not about to go to war over this nor is Turkey. A week from now this will finally sink in with all the fanboi's.