Turkish Missile Programs

[Saithan]

Out of all those salesmen only the korean greeted properly before introducing their equipment. kudos.

 

[cabatli_53]

https://twitter.com/x/status/943085005013704705

Long Altitude SAM project is officialy commenced with our describtion. “Hisar-U”. It is the first time SSM used that term.

 

[TheMightyBender]

siktir git lan dumbuk, neyin hesabini yaptin laf atiyon bana. Adam gibi yazacaksan yaz yoksa siktir git. Verdigin hesab neyin hesabi beli degil. Neye gore boldun carptin, herhalde sana carpmislar... Birdaha beni quote etme salak...

Two plus two is four minus one thats three quick maths

 

[YoungTurk01]

Soon as they open weapons bay, it is not stealth anymore. Just a reminder.


Long range attacking need refueling which tankers are NOT stealth, therefore stlh fighters not too far from tankers. USA just realized that issue few years ago, ( which f22 in service almost 20 years) they start converting some of the stealth bombers to tankers. Just info

https://t.co/tkDt0R84zB

 

[TheMightyBender]

Turkey plans short turnaround on long-range missiles in 2018
Metin Gurcan December 19, 2017

ARTICLE SUMMARY
Regional conflicts have shown the importance of deep-strike capability with cruise missiles, and Turkey is now working hard to acquire it.


If I were asked what has been the outstanding conventional warfare feature of the Syrian conflict, my response would be the deep-strike capability demonstrated by US Tomahawk and Russian Kalibr-NK cruise missiles. The war in Syria demonstrated the importance of the deep-strike capability of cruise missiles, which are more accurate at long distances than the more risky and expensive warplane strikes.

Ankara has decided it urgently needs deep-strike capability to hit critical targets hundreds of miles from its borders. Officials realize armed factions affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers Party (the PKK, which Turkey considers a terrorist group) will exist for years to come in Iraq and Syria. Long-range capability is a vital component of Turkey’s strategy to confront threats beyond its frontier.

This strategy explains why engineers in Ankara are striving to manufacture a locally made turbojet engine. Turkey's Defense Industries Research and Development Institute is doing engineering work for Ankara-based missile-maker Roketsan to manufacture an engine for the standoff missile (SOM) with a 300-kilometer (186-mile) range. The turbojet engine is similar to those for Gezgin and Atmaca missiles.

The SOM-A and SOM-B1 have been mounted on Turkish air force and F-4 2020 jets since 2013, equipped with French-made TR-40 turbojet engines.

Then why is Turkey working so hard to manufacture a complete, locally made turbojet engine for the SOM? Since 1987, Turkey has been a party to the Missile Technology Control Regime, which restricts nuclear warhead platforms other than airplanes. The regime was created to control exports to curb the spread of unmanned delivery systems for nuclear weapons, specifically systems that could carry a minimum payload of some 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds) a minimum of 300 kilometers.

Turkey wants to develop the SOM-B2 model to bypass production and export restrictions, and the SOM-J model, which can be mounted on F-35 warplanes with fully Turkish-made Kale turbojet engines. According to media reports last week, the “made in Turkey” turbojet engines will be ready in the second half of 2018.

Also in 2018, the Network Enabled Weapon-Kement project will be available for SOM munitions. The Kement project will boost the attack power, survival and flexibility of the cruise missiles with a data network that enables images to be transferred from a single target to multiple targets in air-to-air and air-to-ground systems. This will allow the SOM to alter a target in flight and acquire a new one with its low-altitude flight capability and small radar signature.

Turkey is about to free itself from some restrictions by manufacturing its own weapons and delivery platforms and has been developing 500- to 800-kilometer ballistic missiles. It's now aiming for missiles with a range of 1,500- to 2,500 kilometers that will maintain their guidance and precise targeting capabilities.

Moreover, a nationally made turbojet engine means lifting restrictions on the sale of missiles using this engine. Azerbaijan is strongly interested in the SOM missiles and is waiting for the Turkish-made turbojet engine to buy them.

Turkey is planning the first flight test of the SOM-J missile for 2018. Ankara intends to develop shorter and thinner missiles with stealth features that will be compatible with the F-35 and Turkey’s national warplane project TFX fuselages.

Today the only competition to the SOM-J in the world market is the Norwegian-made Penguin missile.

Given the enormous market for F-35s, no doubt the SOM-J has impressive export potential. Australia is already said to be very interested in the SOM-J.

Turkey’s 500-kilometer-plus cruise-missile project is the 1,500-kilogram Gezgin missile. Because of its size and weight, this missile will meet specifications close to the US Tomahawk delivered by Turkish air force planes. It will be launched from submarines, ships and the ground. This missile, which will initially have a 300-kilometer range, will eventually be modified for longer distances.

Turkey is also working on the Atmaca anti-ship missile, developed for its navy by Turkey’s defense giant Aselsan, with Roketsan as the contractor. The missile successfully completed its first firing tests last year and is expected to replace the current Harpoon missiles.

Until the SOM was procured for Turkey's arsenal in the cruise missile category, Turkey relied on the Israeli-made Popeye, which has a range of less than 300 kilometers, and the US-madeAGM 84H/K SLAM-ER (standoff land attack missile), with a range of 270 kilometers.

Ballistic missile expert Hakan Kilic said that the Popeye, which can only be used by the F4-2020 warplane, will be obsolete when those planes are grounded in two or three years. “This is what's compelling Turkey to develop SOM missiles as a matter of urgency. Turkey is increasingly uncomfortable with the restrictions it faces on ballistic missiles,” Kilic told Al-Monitor.

In a well-known incident, Turkey became extremely upset when the United States did not allow testing of the US-made SLAM-ER in Turkey. Ankara had to send an F-16 to Fort Worth, Texas, and do the testing under the watchful eyes of US officials.

So to answer the earlier question, Ankara's urgency in developing the SOM is the desire to eliminate foreign dependence, to acquire cross-border deep-strike capability and then to develop export markets. Turkey expects to make major strides toward these goals next year.

Then cruise missile traffic, which already congests Middle East air space, will only get heavier.



Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ly-produce-cruise-missiles.html#ixzz51mvODvF3

 

[Mr.Department]

Ibrahim Sünnetci Chief Editor from S&H said that Turkey will go a long time with Safran engines, cause a long lasting production contract was signed and based on it Safran developed a complete new TR-40 which meets almost the power of the TR-50, exceeds TR-50 in some parameters and has a complete new lubrification system. This engine will be used for GEZGIN cruise missile. He added, that SOM-ER project maybe cancelled. SOM family except SOM-J and Atmaca Blok-1 will use TR-40, SOM-J will be equipped with the new version of TR-40. They will be delivered in 2018. He added that he knows the details of the contract and specs but isn't allowed to publish them.

@TheMightyBender

Bro. What do you think ? Did Kale reached his goal to exceed 20 minutes runtime ?

 

[TheMightyBender]

@TheMightyBender

Bro. What do you think ? Did Kale reached his goal to exceed 20 minutes runtime ?

I dont follow missile developments that closely so I cant comment on this. @Combat-Master what do you think?

 

[ziya]

akya torpedo specs
lenght 6.6m 533mm
weight 1.2 ton
40 knt 15km
active passive acustic sonar and wake homing
fiber optic guidance
conformal array sonar
more than 350kg pbx

 

[Mr.Department]

akya torpedo specs
lenght 6.6m 533mm
weight 1.2 ton
40 knt 15km
active passive acustic sonar and wake homing
fiber optic guidance
conformal array sonar
more than 350kg pbx

fiber optic guidance

That IMO the key for success

 

[Silahtar]

SAVENER supersonic missile aerothrust test infrastructure reached critical design review phase. SAVENER also started working on the transonic aerodynamic test infrastructure and completed its conceptual design.

Ses hızının 5 katı hızla uçan füzeler işte bu sistemle test edilecek

SAVENER tarafından geliştirilen ve füzelerin Mach 5’e kadar süratlerde test edilmesine olanak sağlayacak Süpersonik Füze Aeroitki Test Altyapısı, Kritik Tasarım Gözden Geçirme aşamasına geldi. Gebze Organize Sanayi Bölgesi’nde faaliyet gösteren şirketin Proje Yöneticisi Sinan Ceylan, 2015 yılında başladıkları çalışmalar sonucu detay tasarımı tamamlama noktasına geldiklerini söyledi.

Söz konusu test altyapısı, tam ölçekli füzelerin, yüksek süratlerde test edilmesini sağlayacak. Test altyapısı, yüksek basınçta depolanan havanın, ısıtılarak test kalemi üzerinden istenen Mach sayısında geçirilmesi ile (blow-down) çalışacak. Ayrıca, ejektör sistemi ile test odasında hava basıncı düşürülerek, hedeflenen uçuş irtifasının basınç şartları yaratılabilecek. Böylece füzenin, gerçeğe en yakın şartlarda, çok daha kontrollü ve düşük maliyetli şekilde test edilmesi sağlanacak.

Firma, 2017 yılı içinde Transonik Aerodinamik Test Altyapısı konusunda da çalışmaya başladı. Bu projede ise kavramsal tasarım tamamlandı.

Ceylan, bu tip test altyapılarının ülke içinde kurulması ile yurtdışı test altyapılarının kullanımı sırasında kritik silah bilgilerinin diğer ülkeler ile paylaşılmasının önüne geçilebileceğine vurgu yaparak, “SAVENER olarak altyapıyı en kısa zamanda müşterimize teslim ederek, önemli bir eksikliği gidermeyi hedefliyoruz. Türkiye’de benzer altyapılara ihtiyaç duyan diğer firmaların da milli ve özgün çözümümüze ilgi göstereceğinden eminiz” dedi.

http://www.kokpit.aero/fuzelerin-testine-milli-cozum
http://www.savener.com.tr/

 

[ozi2000]

MAM-L Close-Up

 

[cabatli_53]

SLV project

-Commencement:17 July 2013 with a budget of 17,5 million TL + 2,5 million $

-Ukraine was design partner on conceptual design phase and Period-1 is completed succesfully.

-Period-2 commenced domestically with scope of developing a SLV using a liquid propellant rocket motor.

-A hybrid motors on same SLV using solid and liquid propellant rocket motor technology on different parts of rocket to reach the different layer of space is under development for future.

-SSM commenced official negotiations with some countries locating perfect position (near equator) to launch Turkish SLV.

Source: SSM head İsmail Demir and Auxiliary minister Mustafa Şeker

If Negotiations are commenced with foreign countries lile Somalia and Sudan lile states to launch domestically developed SLV, It means the project is seriously matured. It is more logical now when It is mentioned 2500km range ballistic missile target until 2017-18.

 

[Mr.Department]

If Negotiations are commenced with foreign countries lile Somalia and Sudan lile states to launch domestically developed SLV, It means the project is seriously matured.

So, my claim that the base in Somalia could be forward post for a Launch Center in Somalia, cause its near to the Equator, was not wrong. Though, most laughed about it. Thank, for the update. Now it makes sense, why UAE wants to sabotage it and supports Somaliland Gov.

 

[Lozengrad]

 

[Mr.Department]

The ISIL PIL is for energy of the wingfolding mechanism ? @Aykut