Turkish Missile Programs

[Saithan]

IMO Turkey should have acquired some of the first version of F35A like Israel instead of waiting. Gaining experience flying and researching option of what we can do is quite important. We could have even tested it out against the S300 and SAM systems some of our neighbours have. Now we have to wait until it's our turn, and hopefully the political climate doesn't become so bad that US won't deliver them. That's what I'm fearing.

 

[Killuminati]

IMO Turkey should have acquired some of the first version of F35A like Israel instead of waiting. Gaining experience flying and researching option of what we can do is quite important. We could have even tested it out against the S300 and SAM systems some of our neighbours have. Now we have to wait until it's our turn, and hopefully the political climate doesn't become so bad that US won't deliver them. That's what I'm fearing.

What about the parts that made by Turkey for the F-35? Turkey is not the only country in the queue..

 

[Kamil_baku]

IMO Turkey should have acquired some of the first version of F35A like Israel instead of waiting. Gaining experience flying and researching option of what we can do is quite important. We could have even tested it out against the S300 and SAM systems some of our neighbours have. Now we have to wait until it's our turn, and hopefully the political climate doesn't become so bad that US won't deliver them. That's what I'm fearing.

Turkey should of given first as its a co developer with the US but as you can see Israel joined at the end and got the first..

 

[Saithan]

Good point, but I seem to recall that we didn't order until much later. If this article is correct then I think we ordered F35 after Israel had already ordered.

https://www.f35.com/global/participation/turkey

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2016/10/31/turkey-to-order-new-f-35-lightning-ii-jets/

https://www.f35.com/global/participation/israel

Perhaps someone has a more accurate date than what I could google

 

[kartal1]

New Engine for SOM!

Deputy Undersecretary of the Undersecretary of Defense Industry Mustafa Şeker explained that the work for the SOM engine is continuing and that for the more powerful engine, the work has begun. Speaking at the opening of the Turbo Shaft Motor Sub-Systems Workshop, Şeker noted that they expect the work on the SOM motor to be completed by 2018. The torque of the SOM turbojet engine, expressed by Şeker, is limited to 3.2 KN. The engine is running for 20 minutes. Şeker is working on a more powerful engine, C4Dence reaches the content of the expression. The expected power of the new engine is yet to be announced, but the engine is said to be a turbojet. On the other hand, according to the information obtained, on December 15, the Bid Call File (TÇD) was published to three companies for the subject engine. It is also stated that the number of companies that publish TCDs can reach five, while the companies are not explained.

Source: http://www.c4defence.com/Gundem/yeni-motor-yolda/5323/1

 

[cabatli_53]

New Engine for SOM!

Deputy Undersecretary of the Undersecretary of Defense Industry Mustafa Şeker explained that the work for the SOM engine is continuing and that for the more powerful engine, the work has begun. Speaking at the opening of the Turbo Shaft Motor Sub-Systems Workshop, Şeker noted that they expect the work on the SOM motor to be completed by 2018. The torque of the SOM turbojet engine, expressed by Şeker, is limited to 3.2 KN. The engine is running for 20 minutes. Şeker is working on a more powerful engine, C4Dence reaches the content of the expression. The expected power of the new engine is yet to be announced, but the engine is said to be a turbojet. On the other hand, according to the information obtained, on December 15, the Bid Call File (TÇD) was published to three companies for the subject engine. It is also stated that the number of companies that publish TCDs can reach five, while the companies are not explained.

Source: http://www.c4defence.com/Gundem/yeni-motor-yolda/5323/1

According to İ. Sunnetçi, The new turbojet engine will be around TR-50+ standarts in terms of performance and power up SOM-Er and Gezgin missiles.

 

[universal soldier]

According to İ. Sunnetçi, The new turbojet engine will be around TR-50+ standarts in terms of performance and power up SOM-Er and Gezgin missiles.

Do you think with the new turkish engine , SOM can achive 500km range ?

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Do you think with the new turkish engine , SOM can achive 500km range ?

SOM-ER will reportedly have a 800 km range. Hitting anything much further than that will fall under the responsibility of Gezgin CM, our air force and/or Turkey's various SRBMs/MRBMs.

 

[what]

Good point, but I seem to recall that we didn't order until much later. If this article is correct then I think we ordered F35 after Israel had already ordered.

https://www.f35.com/global/participation/turkey

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2016/10/31/turkey-to-order-new-f-35-lightning-ii-jets/

https://www.f35.com/global/participation/israel

Perhaps someone has a more accurate date than what I could google

I'm no expert but I think the orders were delayed because we tried but failed to get some sort of access to integrate our own weapons or something?

 

[Oublious]

Do you think with the new turkish engine , SOM can achive 500km range ?

Lets make a math about the new engine, if asuming it have a speed of 850km/h, and it burns 40 min. first we are changing km/h to ms. So thats 231 m/s rounded. In one min 60s*231ms=13.860 km. So 13.860*40min=554km.

Yes ther will be range of 500km.

 

[Oublious]

My mistak it runs 20 min so lets make it 250km.

 

[Kamil_baku]

Lets make a math about the new engine, if asuming it have a speed of 850km/h, and it burns 40 min. first we are changing km/h to ms. So thats 231 m/s rounded. In one min 60s*231ms=13.860 km. So 13.860*40min=554km.

Yes ther will be range of 500km.

Im sorry but you are so dumb..
if it flies 850km/h
To find how far it goes within 40 mins, you just divide 850 to 3 and multiple 2
850:3*2=566km


On the orher hand, the new engine might stand to go further, they just use less quality product to make it cheap to produce as it will be used only once.

 

[Kamil_baku]

My mistak it runs 20 min so lets make it 250km.

Just divide it to 3 and 283km

 

[Zarvan]

Aselsan displays its Anti-Tank Missile launching system at GDA 2017

At GDA 2017, the Gulf Defence and Aerospace Exhibition, taking place in Mishref, Kuwait, from 12 to 14 December, the Turkish leading defence company, Aselsan showcases its Anti-Tank Missile launching system.

The Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System at GDA 2017 (Credit: Army Recognition)

The Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System is a versatile defensive and offensive weapon system that provides high effectivity against ground targets in day/night and adverse weather conditions thanks to its computer controlled fire control subsystem designed to limit the operator’s task. It is a remotely controlled and stabilized Weapon Platform carrying 4 Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (HELLFIRE, JAVELIN, KORNET-E, OMTAS, SHERSHEN etc.). The Weapon Platform can be customized in order to carry the amount of missiles required by the customer. Alongside with 4 Anti-Tank Guided missiles, the System can be configured to carry 25mm automatic cannon, 12.7 or 7.62 mm machine gun for self protection.

The System is light weight, low volume and suitable for integration with a variety of existing or new armored high mobility fighting vehicles, considerably upgrading their lethality (e.g. Nurol Makina NMS, Otokar Cobra II,...) . It allows the system to be operated from inside the vehicle with a high degree of precision to protect the gunner and/or commander from being exposed.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/gda...ank_missile_launching_system_at_gda_2017.html

 

[Kamil_baku]

Aselsan displays its Anti-Tank Missile launching system at GDA 2017

At GDA 2017, the Gulf Defence and Aerospace Exhibition, taking place in Mishref, Kuwait, from 12 to 14 December, the Turkish leading defence company, Aselsan showcases its Anti-Tank Missile launching system.

The Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System at GDA 2017 (Credit: Army Recognition)

The Aselsan Anti-Tank Missile Launching System is a versatile defensive and offensive weapon system that provides high effectivity against ground targets in day/night and adverse weather conditions thanks to its computer controlled fire control subsystem designed to limit the operator’s task. It is a remotely controlled and stabilized Weapon Platform carrying 4 Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (HELLFIRE, JAVELIN, KORNET-E, OMTAS, SHERSHEN etc.). The Weapon Platform can be customized in order to carry the amount of missiles required by the customer. Alongside with 4 Anti-Tank Guided missiles, the System can be configured to carry 25mm automatic cannon, 12.7 or 7.62 mm machine gun for self protection.

The System is light weight, low volume and suitable for integration with a variety of existing or new armored high mobility fighting vehicles, considerably upgrading their lethality (e.g. Nurol Makina NMS, Otokar Cobra II,...) . It allows the system to be operated from inside the vehicle with a high degree of precision to protect the gunner and/or commander from being exposed.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/gda...ank_missile_launching_system_at_gda_2017.html

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