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Does anyone know something about HISAR-U ???

According to strategic roadway;

  • Two seperate long range SAM missile project is mentioned in SSM strategic roadway.
1- “Uzun Menzil Hava ve Füze Savunma Sistemi”
2- “Geliştirilmiş Uzun Menzil Bölge Hava/Füze Savunma Sistemi.

-Acc to time table, Both of them were commenced in 2017 and their design/development phases to be completed by 2021.

-Number (1) is written as an effective system against air breathing targets.

-Number (2) is adressed as ballistic missile protection.

- Developments of Longer range variants of Hisar family have been commenced in 2018.


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According to strategic roadway;

  • Two seperate long range SAM missile project is mentioned in SSM strategic roadway.
1- “Uzun Menzil Hava ve Füze Savunma Sistemi”
2- “Geliştirilmiş Uzun Menzil Bölge Hava/Füze Savunma Sistemi.

-Acc to time table, Both of them were commenced in 2017 and their design/development phases to be completed by 2021.

-Number (1) is written as an effective system against air breathing targets.

-Number (2) is adressed as ballistic missile protection.

- Developments of Longer range variants of Hisar family have been commenced in 2018.


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Very good!
 
1- “Uzun Menzil Hava ve Füze Savunma Sistemi”
2- “Geliştirilmiş Uzun Menzil Bölge Hava/Füze Savunma Sistemi.

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Do you have any info on whether these are to supplement the Eurosam (not sure if I got the name right) project we are working on with Italy and France or are they just stop gaps till Eurosam gets here.

Also what's the range on number 1 (Hisar U?)?
 
Do you have any info on whether these are to supplement the Eurosam (not sure if I got the name right) project we are working on with Italy and France or are they just stop gaps till Eurosam gets here.

Also what's the range on number 1 (Hisar U?)?

I think second project will be based on our knowledge that we learned from eurosam because we know aster missiles are capable to defend a missile.
 
I think second project will be based on our knowledge that we learned from eurosam because we know aster missiles are capable to defend a missile.
Nope, nothing solid.. We have however seen graphic of a 'kill vehicle' neutralising ballistic missile in upper atmosphere, but that AD development might be unrelated to HISAR-U..

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Nowadays, there are two operational versions of the Aster-30 missiles: Block 0, which is dedicated to naval vessels; and Block 1, integrated with the SAMP/T batteries. Nevertheless, it seems important to point out the plans concerning the introduction of further two variants, Block 1NT and Block 2. On January 14, the French Ministry of Defence announced that 3 weeks before the Direction générale de l’armement (DGA) signed the contract with the Eurosam consortium regarding the procurement of Block 1NT missiles. Within few months Italy is expected to join this agreement. Another country that could be interested in the acquisition of these missiles is the United Kingdom. The significant differences of the new variant in comparison with the previous versions of the Aster-30 missiles are its capabilities against ballistic missiles. These capabilities should increase significantly with the introduction of the Block 1NT missile in order to provide protection against missiles with the effective range from 1000 to 1300 km. The missile-mounted Ku band radar (2-18 GHz) will be probably replaced by the new radar operating in the K band (26,5-40 GHz). Furthermore, the Arabel radar is expected to be replaced by the new product of Thales. The Ground Smarter 1000 radar is able to detect and follow ballistic missiles in the range of 1000 km. The first delivery for the French Air Force is expected in 2023 ( :D ).


The development phase of the Block 2 missiles has not formally started, however according to the available data the new construction is supposed to be equipped with a new kinetic warhead (the so-called ‘hit-to-kill’), dedicated to intercept ballistic missiles. Moreover, the Aster-30 Block 2 missile will be capable to destroy medium-range ballistic missiles (an effective range up to 3000 km). Consequently, the missile seems to be a counterpart of the American SM-3 Block 1B.

Source: https://pulaski.pl/en/french-response-to-air-and-ballistic-missile-threats/
 

The last line was saddening. The US, an ally (not friend - straight up ally) doesn't want to sell Turkey the "top of the grade missiles" for the patriot systems "under any circumstances" - yet they expect Turkey to roll over on the s-400 deal. Pathetic to be honest.
 
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