GlobalMillitary96
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2016
- Messages
- 1,344
- Reaction score
- 1
- Country
- Location
Turkic World Photos/News/Discussions.
- Thread starter -SINAN-
- Start date
GlobalMillitary96
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2016
- Messages
- 1,344
- Reaction score
- 1
- Country
- Location
Living in Yurts was necessary for living a nomadic lifestyle in the steppes. To this day, some Mongols and Turkic people still live in Yurts. Obviously times have changed and people prefer to live in cities. But let's not confuse the nomadic lifestyle of Turkic people with the practices and beliefs of Tengrism.
Islamism destroys every country it takes hold of. Many countries have become literal sh*tholes because of radical Islam. The west sponsors it as a way to keep countries weak. These Islamists that the west sponsors are against scientific research and have many times before killed scientists for being "kafirs"..
What do you expect from a religion who's prophet married a 9 year old?
Another big problem with Islamists is the fact that they see their religion as more important than their nation. They relate more with Arabs then they do with their fellow Turks. If the president was to announce that 10 million more refugees would come in they will gladly accept them because they are 'our arab muslim brothers'.
Although there is some mythology in Tengrism, it should be noted that there are some surprisingly good references to real science. Some basic examples are how oceans evaporate and fall back from the sky, how the earth rotates around the sun and the fact that the sun is considered nothing but another star.
The fact is that Tengrism is a much more grounded and science-friendly religion than any of the Abrahamic religions. No Tengrist would ever harm a Scientist for being against their religion. The same can not be said for Muslims and Christians.
Ancient Turks held celebrations for Winter and Summer solstice by the way. An interesting fact is that the Crescent and Star on the Turkish flag has a connection to these ancient celebrations. The ancient Turks used moon as a symbol of the cold and the sun as a symbol of warmth. So essentially, the Turkish flag symbolizes both summer and winter solstice. A balance between cold and hot.
By the way the best thing you can do in Tengrism is planting a tree, so go ahead and do it in your free time
Living in Yurts was necessary for living a nomadic lifestyle in the steppes. To this day, some Mongols and Turkic people still live in Yurts. Obviously times have changed and people prefer to live in cities. But let's not confuse the nomadic lifestyle of Turkic people with the practices and beliefs of Tengrism.
Islamism destroys every country it takes hold of. Many countries have become literal sh*tholes because of radical Islam. The west sponsors it as a way to keep countries weak. These Islamists that the west sponsors are against scientific research and have many times before killed scientists for being "kafirs"..
What do you expect from a religion who's prophet married a 9 year old?
Another big problem with Islamists is the fact that they see their religion as more important than their nation. They relate more with Arabs then they do with their fellow Turks. If the president was to announce that 10 million more refugees would come in they will gladly accept them because they are 'our arab muslim brothers'.
Although there is some mythology in Tengrism, it should be noted that there are some surprisingly good references to real science. Some basic examples are how oceans evaporate and fall back from the sky, how the earth rotates around the sun and the fact that the sun is considered nothing but another star.
The fact is that Tengrism is a much more grounded and science-friendly religion than any of the Abrahamic religions. No Tengrist would ever harm a Scientist for being against their religion. The same can not be said for Muslims and Christians.
Ancient Turks held celebrations for Winter and Summer solstice by the way. An interesting fact is that the Crescent and Star on the Turkish flag has a connection to these ancient celebrations. The ancient Turks used moon as a symbol of the cold and the sun as a symbol of warmth. So essentially, the Turkish flag symbolizes both summer and winter solstice. A balance between cold and hot.
By the way the best thing you can do in Tengrism is planting a tree, so go ahead and do it in your free time
As a Muslim that is the one thing that Islamists piss me off they love destroying the countries they live in, nothing more than sow chaos and destruction.
Especially takfirists have to be one of the worst of all islamists.
Its no wonder Al Qaeda and Isis all work for the benefit of the countries that sponsor them.
Islam and Christianity are universal religions hence why they have a lot of races and ethnic groups following the religion. These religions are not pertained to one ethnic group compared to other religions.
Islam and Christianity are the most followed religions due to conquests sustained by their various respective empires.
I think these two are the only religions that tells followers to seek out converts compared to other religions.
Yes the Crescent is actually not an Islamic symbol when I tell this to my friends they get shocked because the Crescent has always been associated with Islam when Islam itself does not have a symbol which represents it.
Last edited:
Ummayads were actually much more better than the Abbassids because they were much more miltaristic than the Abbassids.
Abbassids were too decadent.
I wish the Ottomans were more like the Ummayads. Because it is the Non Turks that brought down the Empire if the Ottomans had a Ummayad like system and kept the Turks up top we would not be having these problems brought on by Arabs, Kurds, Armenians, Greeks and other non Turks.
Abbassids were too decadent.
I wish the Ottomans were more like the Ummayads. Because it is the Non Turks that brought down the Empire if the Ottomans had a Ummayad like system and kept the Turks up top we would not be having these problems brought on by Arabs, Kurds, Armenians, Greeks and other non Turks.
No wonder the Turks are hated they just about kicked everybodies asses hence the butthurt.
CAN_TR
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Jan 21, 2018
- Messages
- 3,417
- Reaction score
- 2
- Country
- Location
Yeah... you know what Umayyads did to the Turks in Transoxiana, Khorasan and Khwarazm because they refused to convert?
The Abbasids were much more tolerant... there was no "convert or face the sword".
asena_great
BANNED
- Joined
- Jun 16, 2014
- Messages
- 1,997
- Reaction score
- 1
- Country
- Location
I know the Ummayads were brutal at least they kept Arabs at top.
What benefit does it bring when Turks put Arabs, Kurds, Armenians, Greeks and other non Turks in top positions.
We lose our empire and have numerous backstabbings. We lost Selanik due to our cowardly Albanian commanders who surrendered the city without firing a shot.
If people call this is racist I dont care. Us Turks owe nothing to Non Turks in Turkey.
Last edited:
Yatağanlı
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 31, 2014
- Messages
- 443
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
At the same time, a great deal of our greatest heroes were ethnically mixed. There is no such thing a a "pure Turk". Loyalty to the state and nation is most important. Next comes "original ethnicity".
Islamic faith&Secularism
BANNED
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2013
- Messages
- 4,224
- Reaction score
- -9
- Country
- Location
Is there any pure ''nation'' in the world?
An empire of a nation employes all sources interchanginly for primarily its own existance to survive in the next centuries; That is why Turks still survive as Turks along with its rich heritage, unlike many ''nations'' along with many ''heritages'' in extinction, or combined micro ''nations'' to build bigger ''nations'' along with combined ''heritage''.
Without any blood bond, No social group or nation can secure ''integrity'' as the history has continously proved, like the collapse of Ottoman Empire.
Bismarck
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 22, 2011
- Messages
- 4,807
- Reaction score
- 3
- Country
- Location
Uighur leaders warn China's actions could be 'precursors to genocide'
Campaign group urges foreign governments to halt ‘business as usual’ relations with Beijing until action is taken
Kate LyonsFri 7 Dec 2018 01.35 GMT
Uighur leaders have called on democratic governments to confront China over its treatment of ethnic minority Uighur Muslims, saying the government’s actions against the ethnic minority group are “precursors to genocide”.
On a visit to Australia, leaders of the Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP), based in Washington, said governments, businesses, academics and thinktanks all had a responsibility to stop “business as usual” relations with China.
They also warned of China’s “extra-territorial reach”, which saw coercion and threats against Australian Uighurs, who were unable to escape the reach of the Chinese state.
“It’s time for action, something horrific is happening on our watch,” said Nury Turkel, chair of the board for the UHRP.
An estimated one million Muslims are being held in detention camps in Xinjiangby the Chinese government as part of a sweeping crackdown on the rights of the minority group.
The authorities in Beijing call the camps “vocational training centres”, saying those detained within them are taught language, culture and vocational skills. In August, the UN called for the immediate release of people from the camps, saying they had received many credible reports that a million ethnic Uighurs were held in what resembled a “massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy”.
‘Mass murder cannot be ruled out’
Turkel cited James Millward, a historian at Georgetown University, who called cultural cleansing of Uighurs “Beijing’s attempt to find a final solution to the Xinjiang problem”. Turkel said: “those of us who are students of history know what that means. We’ve seen how it ends when a government or an authoritarian leader promotes that sort of ideology”, saying the Communist party of China had likened Uighurs to “a cancerous tumour”.
Asked whether he thought the Holocaust was the best historical comparison for the situation in Xinjiang, Turkel said: “The Chinese have not publicly shown any sign of gassing Uighurs” but that the few reports coming out of the camps suggested people were dying inside them. He added: “We may see mass murder.”
Louisa Greve, director for external affairs for the UHRP, said: “Academics believe that when you look at the progression of policies that dehumanise ethnic groups, you have to say that mass murder cannot be ruled out. We see many, many of the precursors of cultural and possibly physical genocide.”
Thomas Cliff, research fellow at the ANU college of Asia and the Pacific said what was going on in Xinjiang was “a form of genocide, although it’s not killing everybody”.
“The objective seems to be to wipe out all traces of what’s distinct about being a Uighur,” he said. Some people are coming out of the camps and saying ‘kill me, I don’t want to bear this anymore’,” he said.
Greve said government action needed to be taken in response to the repression of Uighurs, which included forcible separation of children from their parents, reports of forced marriage between Uighurs and Han Chinese, and the banning of Uighur language and culture.
Greve said Uighurs, including herself and fellow panellists, had received threats and coercion from the Chinese government to infiltrate or spy upon members of the Uighur community in the US and had been threatened with reprisals against their families in China if they didn’t stop their activism.
Australian Uighurs told the Guardian of China’s extra-territorial reach, with one woman saying she believed a Chinese spy came to her business in Sydney where he quizzed her about her political views, her opinion on the situation in Xinjiang and the ethnicity of her employees. Another Australian permanent resident said she is required by Chinese police to take a photo of herself holding her passport and the day’s paper and send it to them every few weeks.
Sultan Hiwilla, a prominent Australia-Uighur activist based in Sydney, said he had not been able to speak to his family in Xinjiang since 2014 and does not know what has happened to them, but a message reached him a few months ago through a friend telling him to stop his activism because it was affecting his family.
But he said he could not stop his work: “It’s not only affecting my family it’s affecting all Uighur people, if I stop, it will keep going, some one needs to make this sacrifice.”
Since you're here…
… we have a small favour to ask. Three years ago we set out to make The Guardian sustainable by deepening our relationship with our readers. The same technologies that connected us with a global audience had also shifted advertising revenues away from news publishers. We decided to seek an approach that would allow us to keep our journalism open and accessible to everyone, regardless of where they live or what they can afford.
More than one million readers have now supported our independent, investigative journalism through contributions, membership or subscriptions, which has played such an important part in helping The Guardian overcome a perilous financial situation globally. We want to thank you for all of your support. But we have to maintain and build on that support for every year to come.
Sustained support from our readers enables us to continue pursuing difficult stories in challenging times of political upheaval, when factual reporting has never been more critical. The Guardian is editorially independent – our journalism is free from commercial bias and not influenced by billionaire owners, politicians or shareholders. No one edits our editor. No one steers our opinion. This is important because it enables us to give a voice to those less heard, challenge the powerful and hold them to account. Readers’ support means we can continue bringing The Guardian’s independent journalism to the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hinas-actions-could-be-precursors-to-genocide
Campaign group urges foreign governments to halt ‘business as usual’ relations with Beijing until action is taken
Kate LyonsFri 7 Dec 2018 01.35 GMT
Uighur leaders have called on democratic governments to confront China over its treatment of ethnic minority Uighur Muslims, saying the government’s actions against the ethnic minority group are “precursors to genocide”.
On a visit to Australia, leaders of the Uyghur Human Rights Project (UHRP), based in Washington, said governments, businesses, academics and thinktanks all had a responsibility to stop “business as usual” relations with China.
They also warned of China’s “extra-territorial reach”, which saw coercion and threats against Australian Uighurs, who were unable to escape the reach of the Chinese state.
“It’s time for action, something horrific is happening on our watch,” said Nury Turkel, chair of the board for the UHRP.
An estimated one million Muslims are being held in detention camps in Xinjiangby the Chinese government as part of a sweeping crackdown on the rights of the minority group.
The authorities in Beijing call the camps “vocational training centres”, saying those detained within them are taught language, culture and vocational skills. In August, the UN called for the immediate release of people from the camps, saying they had received many credible reports that a million ethnic Uighurs were held in what resembled a “massive internment camp that is shrouded in secrecy”.
‘Mass murder cannot be ruled out’
Turkel cited James Millward, a historian at Georgetown University, who called cultural cleansing of Uighurs “Beijing’s attempt to find a final solution to the Xinjiang problem”. Turkel said: “those of us who are students of history know what that means. We’ve seen how it ends when a government or an authoritarian leader promotes that sort of ideology”, saying the Communist party of China had likened Uighurs to “a cancerous tumour”.
Asked whether he thought the Holocaust was the best historical comparison for the situation in Xinjiang, Turkel said: “The Chinese have not publicly shown any sign of gassing Uighurs” but that the few reports coming out of the camps suggested people were dying inside them. He added: “We may see mass murder.”
Louisa Greve, director for external affairs for the UHRP, said: “Academics believe that when you look at the progression of policies that dehumanise ethnic groups, you have to say that mass murder cannot be ruled out. We see many, many of the precursors of cultural and possibly physical genocide.”
Thomas Cliff, research fellow at the ANU college of Asia and the Pacific said what was going on in Xinjiang was “a form of genocide, although it’s not killing everybody”.
“The objective seems to be to wipe out all traces of what’s distinct about being a Uighur,” he said. Some people are coming out of the camps and saying ‘kill me, I don’t want to bear this anymore’,” he said.
Greve said government action needed to be taken in response to the repression of Uighurs, which included forcible separation of children from their parents, reports of forced marriage between Uighurs and Han Chinese, and the banning of Uighur language and culture.
Greve said Uighurs, including herself and fellow panellists, had received threats and coercion from the Chinese government to infiltrate or spy upon members of the Uighur community in the US and had been threatened with reprisals against their families in China if they didn’t stop their activism.
Australian Uighurs told the Guardian of China’s extra-territorial reach, with one woman saying she believed a Chinese spy came to her business in Sydney where he quizzed her about her political views, her opinion on the situation in Xinjiang and the ethnicity of her employees. Another Australian permanent resident said she is required by Chinese police to take a photo of herself holding her passport and the day’s paper and send it to them every few weeks.
Sultan Hiwilla, a prominent Australia-Uighur activist based in Sydney, said he had not been able to speak to his family in Xinjiang since 2014 and does not know what has happened to them, but a message reached him a few months ago through a friend telling him to stop his activism because it was affecting his family.
But he said he could not stop his work: “It’s not only affecting my family it’s affecting all Uighur people, if I stop, it will keep going, some one needs to make this sacrifice.”
Since you're here…
… we have a small favour to ask. Three years ago we set out to make The Guardian sustainable by deepening our relationship with our readers. The same technologies that connected us with a global audience had also shifted advertising revenues away from news publishers. We decided to seek an approach that would allow us to keep our journalism open and accessible to everyone, regardless of where they live or what they can afford.
More than one million readers have now supported our independent, investigative journalism through contributions, membership or subscriptions, which has played such an important part in helping The Guardian overcome a perilous financial situation globally. We want to thank you for all of your support. But we have to maintain and build on that support for every year to come.
Sustained support from our readers enables us to continue pursuing difficult stories in challenging times of political upheaval, when factual reporting has never been more critical. The Guardian is editorially independent – our journalism is free from commercial bias and not influenced by billionaire owners, politicians or shareholders. No one edits our editor. No one steers our opinion. This is important because it enables us to give a voice to those less heard, challenge the powerful and hold them to account. Readers’ support means we can continue bringing The Guardian’s independent journalism to the world.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...hinas-actions-could-be-precursors-to-genocide
EgyptianAmerican
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 15, 2016
- Messages
- 1,829
- Reaction score
- 5
- Country
- Location
Were my posts deleted?
Islamic faith&Secularism
BANNED
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2013
- Messages
- 4,224
- Reaction score
- -9
- Country
- Location
With respect... Hüseyin Nihal Atsız.
GlobalMillitary96
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 12, 2016
- Messages
- 1,344
- Reaction score
- 1
- Country
- Location
If you want to know the basics of Tengrism watch this:
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report
- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
-
Bajwa calls Bushra's allegations against Saudi Arabia 'baseless'
- Latest: Novus ordu seclorum
